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Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

Reggie Gaskins avatar
Beach Lover
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When you see a PCB or Destin bumper sticker, what thought immediately comes to mind? Probably same for all of us with any time spent here - nice, but it ain’t 30A! Do you remember why you started renting/visiting here? What was it? Remember when you bought your first 30A property? Why here?
Because it was DIFFERENT, right? Remember the words you used to describe it to family and friends as you invited them here? “Private” “Quiet” “Intimate” “Less crowded”. That wasn’t by accident. The entire genetic code of Sowal beaches is because of the private ownership and neighborhood beach personalities.
You could rent “private beach”. You could buy “private beach”. There wasn’t a free for all frat party atmosphere because of unlimited public beach access on the sands. That behavior was regulated by the privately owned property where such behavior was immediately squelched. And yet, by custom, no one was ever “Kicked off” of private beaches because owners don’t do that unless bad actors abuse the privilege.
Walton County has always had more than 50% PUBLIC beach. Still does. That hasn’t changed. There are now deliberately misleading fear tactics out there with scary words like “Quiet Title” and “Privatization”, neither of which have affected one single square inch of public beach, not one. Yet, the mob mentality, orchestrated by local carnival barkers eager for fame and notoriety, and dollars, have mislead the citizens and deliberately tried to divide the community in a shell game of Customary Use.
The fact is that the county outran the capabilities of local Commissioners to plan for growth 20 years ago, and we haven’t improved that talent to deal with it even yet. So the County, in failing to plan beach availability, tried to illegally claim private property as public, without following the laws requiring judicial oversight. The local Good Ol’ Boys overreached their authority and got caught by the adults in Tallahassee. So they then decides to sue 4,800 of Sowal citizens to take their property. That’s right, your tax money is being spent, and a lot of it, to SUE almost 5,000 of your neighbors, and steal what they agreed to purchase at a premium, and have a deed to prove it.
Don’t blame them please, they didn’t want or ask for this fight. They live here and care for these beaches just like you and me. Go meet them, they are truly the eclectic fabric of 30A. The signs they had to put up are just in defense of this new orchestrated public attack against them.
The bottom line is this: The minute you release the public to occupy all of Sowal beaches, you IMMEDIATELY get nasty Destin and PCB problems. How will you feel about that 30A sticker then? Nostalgic? Me too.

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Dave Rauschkolb avatar
Beach Fanatic
#771
This is all very familiar. And of course the word MOB is used....to describe CU advocates...more silliness. Reggie, have I ever met you on the street or on the beach? You're not hiding under a fake name are you? I represent myself fully for every thing I say and do...do you? Now don't you think if you are going to call people a liar (me on several occasions) you should be honest (the opposite of lying) about your name/identity? You seem to be a new voice and authority on this subject. Brand new SoWal identity. Who are you really? Do you own property? Beachfront property? Perhaps under another name? Certainly not under the name Reggie Gaskins. Disclaimer: if you are really Reggie Gaskins and a beachfront owner or even a property owner then full apologies and thanks for your insight and "authority" on the subject of private beaches.Screen Shot 2019-05-03 at 3.51.07 AM.jpg

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Reggie Gaskins avatar
Beach LoverAuthor
#78
Dave, glad you could stop back in, thank you. Now folks, ask yourself this, if one's singular offense was NOT to shame and silence all opposing voices, why would one so deeply research all current and past county records to discover my property ownership? Wouldn't it be a TRUE advocate's responsibility to join the conversation, add to the discussion, answer maybe just one of the 50 questions presented, defend one's position? Fair question? Dave, I promise not to bring your family, business, personal life into this public discussion. You need to please do the same. I've never said I own beach property. Why? Because what I own doesn't matter. What matters is the discussion of the many facts deeply affecting EVERYONE's community, presented here - that are still entirely unchallenged. Therein lies the difference between an advocate and an activist. I look forward to our constructive discussion.
Respectfully, Reg

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Turtlefan avatar
Beach Crab
#79
It seems quite irresponsible for someone who claims to be a community “leader” to make such a dishonest statement. There is a very real and legally documented history of tens of thousands of real estate transactions, all of which were carefully considered and researched by people wanting to buy their dream; what was marketed and sold to them, as “Private beach”. It’s disrespectful to group them all as “ridiculous”. They are not to blame. To dismiss them with a lie is hurting your cause. Are you telling the hundreds of thousands of people that looked at “Private” beach that they were seeing things in 1920,30,40,50,60,70,80,90,2000,2010? Houses in your subdivision STILL advertise your “private beach” behind security gates keeping the public out. Walton residents deliberately and properly bought private beach, regardless of how you “feel” about it. The entire community believes we have a problem. We all agree something needs to be done. But turning our beaches into a “free for all” Panama City Beach atmosphere kills the very personality we’ve grown to love. CU will do that. It will bring much more restaurant revenue, heck - restaurants will probably expand in anticipation, but that’s pretty one sided. Lying to the public about quiet titles, privatization, taxes, access, trespassing, is only making it worse. Please allow folks trying to make it better to drive now, this carnival show is hurting the community.
Exactly!!
FloridaBeachBum avatar
Beach Fanatic
#80
This is all very familiar. And of course the word MOB is used....to describe CU advocates...more silliness. Reggie, have I ever met you on the street or on the beach? You're not hiding under a fake name are you? I represent myself fully for every thing I say and do...do you? Now don't you think if you are going to call people a liar (me on several occasions) you should be honest (the opposite of lying) about your name/identity? You seem to be a new voice and authority on this subject. Brand new SoWal identity. Who are you really? Do you own property? Beachfront property? Perhaps under another name? Certainly not under the name Reggie Gaskins. Disclaimer: if you are really Reggie Gaskins and a beachfront owner or even a property owner then full apologies and thanks for your insight and "authority" on the subject of private beaches.
Dave Rauschkolb, glad to see you in an open forum. Another attempt to obfuscate and not address the facts of the issue. It does not require beach ownership to know the facts of the ancient English, not American, doctrine of custom. Many more state courts have historically rejected customary use than accepted. Connecticut, Georgia, New Jersey, New York, Maine, Virginia, Michigan. Why do you worry about names and not facts? Can you describe the legal doctrine of English custom, it’s criteria, define what the legal criteria are? What is ancient? 1970? Do any of the custom criteria include the (positive or negative) affect on the local economy? Unless ALL of the customary use criteria are proven by evidence in a court; not by a Commisioner's vote, then there is no customary use of private property. What facts do you have? Okaloosa and Bay counties do not have customary use ordinances and their real estate are increasing just like Walton's. The ignorant baseless fear mongering is affecting local economy based on CU FB posts (it's on the internet!). Customary use is a legal solution to a political problem and leadership incompetence; and fact of not enough public sand for the for the demand. Why does the TDC spend $20M a year marketing the public and private beaches of Walton? Why don't the local beachfront businesses that benefit from the TDC marketing like businesses in Seaside pay the $20M for it instead of the tourist tax payer?

You don’t have to own beachfront to be informed or uninformed. You and your companies do not own private beachfront property and you present yourself as an "authority" and expert on customary use. As you know many beachfront owners use LLC and Trusts to hold property, just like you do with Dragonfly Sky LLC and won’t be found in the public records. I use a aliases here to protect my property from being mobbed by those ignorant of the law; like at Vizcaya. Can you educate us in the facts of the doctrine of custom? And don’t say why don’t I. I and many other have in posts over the years. What have facts about the doctrine of customary use have you or Ulhfelder added? Your slogan "Your sand is my sand" is catchy but factually and legally wrong.

Still stand by your earlier post on the thread? “No one ever spoke of our beaches being private until a few years ago when this nonsense started.” Of you intentionally misinforming people without and ignorant of the facts; yes. I don’t recall Reggie or anyone on this thread calling you a liar once much less “on several occasions”.

Reggie, refer back to my initial post on this thread. “Unfortunately, no customary use facts or rational reason to the contrary will persuade the ignorant [about the doctrine of customary use].” Many over the years like BlueMtnBeachVagrant, Shannon Lince, Fact or Fiction, off the top of my head, have presented facts and shown how the fiction of CU claims are false; like quiet title and dry sand can’t be built on (sand can not be built on because Governments police power have prohibited it; then claim the sand is worthless?). Others post trash media cartoons that Huckbee posts signs on his property (now that’s a lie) then think THEY know “trash” media (that Dave R responded to) when they see it? I agree about two things. The courts will decide the law and no compromise on property rights protected by the Constitution. Please continue on. If you don't see posts agreeing with you don't think there are not; it's because you can't fix .... it here.

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FactorFiction avatar
Beach Fanatic
#81
This is all very familiar. And of course the word MOB is used....to describe CU advocates...more silliness. Reggie, have I ever met you on the street or on the beach? You're not hiding under a fake name are you? I represent myself fully for every thing I say and do...do you? Now don't you think if you are going to call people a liar (me on several occasions) you should be honest (the opposite of lying) about your name/identity? You seem to be a new voice and authority on this subject. Brand new SoWal identity. Who are you really? Do you own property? Beachfront property? Perhaps under another name? Certainly not under the name Reggie Gaskins. Disclaimer: if you are really Reggie Gaskins and a beachfront owner or even a property owner then full apologies and thanks for your insight and "authority" on the subject of private beaches.View attachment 76572

It seems important to remember that who someone is or whether they are a visitor, an inland owner, a beachfront owner, or a restaurant owner really doesn't matter. What matters is the truth and the truth is that roughly 50% of the beaches in Walton County are privately owned. Of those, many cater to tourists and out of state owners. The other roughly 50% is PUBLIC and available to everyone. What is also truth is that this constant targeting of beachfront owners, emphasis on conflict, and general negativity is not helping anyone: Not the beach property owner/entities, not the inland property owners, and certainly not the tourists. I see both sides of this situation, but what I don't understand is why some of the very people who rely most on tourism go to such extremes to scare off the tourists. Makes no sense to me. Before someone says it: NO, I am not suggesting that people lie to tourists. What I am suggesting is that we emphasize where they CAN go to the beach without conflict and that we ALL work together and those things that most of us who live here actually agree on. How sad is it that one issue (albeit an important one) has turned friends into foes, caused constructive advocates for our community to be banned from social media sites, and has literally caused visitors to question whether they are welcomed here? It's time to remember that we got along for years with private ownership of beach parcels and we still agree on MANY, MANY issues confronting our County. Let's more forward instead of running in place over this one issue. Ugh. Rant over.
Reggie Gaskins avatar
Beach LoverAuthor
#82
OK Walton, since we've had no direct challenge of the facts here, let's move towards a solution. Fact is, if Beachfront Property Owners eventually win, the militant behavior forced upon both sides will ruin 30A. If CU doctrine becomes a thing, my original post describes a different death of 30A.
The county can't afford:
-The brand damage of this long fight
-The legal fees of all of the separate actions they are spawning
-The cost of purchase of parcel by parcel settlements
-Any eminent domain costs that might develop
-The distraction of resources for many years as these suits they've initiated begin to multiply. They've already initiated over 600 actions, and those will grow.

So what to do?
Wait years for court decision is one option. Or...
Come together as community leaders with ideas and get back to enjoying 30A beaches. Quietly. Together.
There is a very large, and yet heavily censored group in the community, on both sides of the issue, who see ways to communicate to the public how to avoid conflict on the beach with maps, rules, and suggested behavior.
Willing to Jump back in the water Dave? Surf's up!
BlueMtnBeachVagrant avatar
Beach Fanatic
#83
This is the worst click bait thread since "Welcome to Trumps America".
So are you saying Reggie is actually Teresa?
Beach Fanatic
#84
So are you saying Reggie is actually Teresa?

Oh. I don't know anything about that.
FloridaBeachBum avatar
Beach Fanatic
#851
Facts, not emotional opinion.

2016 February it is clear Walton BCC/TDC inept private beach fortification with off shore sand that did not meet Walton BCC’s own white sand ordinance failed.

2016 February Walton BCC publicly announce veiled reference to customary use of private party as a beach access workshop. The beach fortification failed so all BCC had left is an ancient English doctrine of customary use or eminent domain for public use of private property.

2016 October BCC customary use of private property ordinance adopted by vote, without due process of law.

2017 January BCC reject most of their own Customary Use Committee recommendations. Meeting over many weeks mediated by an attorney hired by Walton BCC. Members selected by the BCC included Mike Huckabee of Blue Mountain Beach, David Bailey of Rosemary Beach, Lisa Boushy of Dune Allen, Beth Clay, Celeste Cobena of Dune Allen, Lisa Evans, Tom McGee (Chair) of Eastern Lake, Tami Mims, Brenda Rees of Eastern Lake, Chuck Schneider and Mike Sturdivant. I didn't see Dave Rauschkolb volunteer his time or make meaningful contribution for this BCC committee. Mike Huckabee and many others did.

2017 April Walton BCC customary use ordinance of private property in force.

2018 March Florida House and Senate legislator super majority, including local Florida Representative Brad Drake, pass customary use due-process legislation, Florida Statute 163.035. CU social media denigrating beachfront private property owners and property rights advocates drastically increase. Including many (intentionally?) false information about quiet title, value of private beach property, and how the Walton economy will collapse without CU.

2018 July Florida FS 163.035 enacted; ensuring Walton BCC includes legal due-process BEFORE enacting a customary use of private property ordinance .

2019 March over 650+ of the 1100+ private property parcel owners intervene to defend their Constitutional property rights against Walton BCC litigation in circuit court (with their own money; unless owners prevail, then Walton tax payers millions).

TDC tourist bed tax revenue since 2015; a year over year INCREASE of about 8% per year. Great, but not a good return on TDC annual $20,000,000 tourist tax payer investment. Tourist money would be better spent buying services and products in Walton - not paying TDC Director $128,000 and multi-millions on marketing.
2019 year to date from 2018 an 18% INCREASE in tourist tax.

At this rate demand for Walton real estate will collapse and businesses in Seaside will be bankrupt by 2020 [said sarcastically]. This is a supply and demand problem and there is NO evidence the county economy or real estate values, before now or without customary use, will collapse. Fact, even after 2010 Deepwater Horizon rental and real estate demand quickly rebounded. Any other facts, not emotional opinions, to the contrary anyone?

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Dave Rauschkolb avatar
Beach Fanatic
#865
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FloridaBeachBum avatar
Beach Fanatic
#87
Mason-Dixon Poll
FACT. The United States of America IS a nation of Individual Rights protected by the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and rule of law; NOT majority (poll) rule.
George Will: Majority rule vs. individual rights Published 8:00 p.m. ET April 16, 2014

Wonder who commissioned the biased poll? "authority to ban the public from the dry sand ... that adjoins their property? " It is not the private property owner banning the public from an adjoining property but the public not respecting and violating the property owners right to exclusive enjoyment of their property when not invited.
I wonder what the poll results would be if the question was;
Do you believe owners of beachfront private property with legal title to the mean high water line have the Constitutional right all private property owners have to exclusive enjoyment of their property?
or Do you think it is acceptable to for the public to occupy private beachfront property with legal title to the mean high water line if the property owner does not invite the public and want exclusive enjoyment of their property for themselves that they pay property taxes on?

Polls are for politicians. Not the Constitution.

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BlueMtnBeachVagrant avatar
Beach Fanatic
#88
Yes, Florida BeachBum, it is a very sad state of affairs when one THINKS that a poll should trump private property rights or any other individual rights for that matter that are protected by the U.S. Constituition, i.e. protection of minorities from the “masses”.

Dave boy is a better restauranteer than he is a constituitional scholar and makes and markets one hell of a mai-tai to the “masses”.
BlueMtnBeachVagrant avatar
Beach Fanatic
#89
Dave Rauschkolb,

Since Daniel doesn’t post on SoWal, why haven’t you commented on one my previous post regarding him since he’s your friend, confidant and the two of you are in the same non-profit group suing private BFOs to take away private property rights? See below:

....How can there be respect when Daniel Uhlfelder stands in front of a townhall county meeting regarding customary use on July 18, 2018 and tell the world that his Jewish grandparents immigrated to America from Europe “because of oppression like this”....in effect pulling out the Nazi card accusing beach front owners as such. His actions show total disrespect for the Holocaust victims. Yeah, respect.
Bob Wells avatar
Beach Fanatic
#90
Just going to throw this out there. I know there are 2 sides to the issue. Personally I don't see this as being productive, all though I do see it as divisive to the community. That said, the courts will decide what is what and yes it will cost a lot of folks money, including every taxpayer. The horse is clearly been beaten, neither side is blinking and both sides are headed for a collision with each other. I would love to know if the arguements here or on any other social media site has changed 1 persons mind as it relates to customary use?
Reggie Gaskins avatar
Beach LoverAuthor
#91
Bob, Great perspective and outlook. Here’s why this post is important. Dave’s Feable use of a partisan poll as defense is perfect example. There is no objective information being offered to citizens. Every single community social media page that touches this topic deletes, blocks, bans ANY voice that hints at not promoting the propaganda. Immediately, as soon as it posts. Then, The handful of sad big voices publicly post personal attacks, often, yes Dave - Lies, about anyone who speaks up publicly about facts. Look at their pages, no facts, but misleading emotional posts shaming people who disagree in an attempt to silence them and divide us. Yet you’ve seen the abundant dialogue here. It’s the ONLY place where there is an audience that is not censored toward only one cause. Nobody, certainly not I, am trying to change anyone’s mind. I am trying to present factual information that is very aggressively kept from the public everywhere else. The entire community audience has been kept from the truth. Thank you again and again to Sowal Admins for being mature, and showing leadership, even though you might not personally agree with much of this discussion. I applaud your leadership. Now Dave, you have refused to join this discussion with intelligent discourse, and meet anyone in public for a community discussion and solution. Why?
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#92
Bob, Great perspective and outlook. Here’s why this post is important. Dave’s Feable use of a partisan poll as defense is perfect example. There is no objective information being offered to citizens. Every single community social media page that touches this topic deletes, blocks, bans ANY voice that hints at not promoting the propaganda. Immediately, as soon as it posts. Then, The handful of sad big voices publicly post personal attacks, often, yes Dave - Lies, about anyone who speaks up publicly about facts. Look at their pages, no facts, but misleading emotional posts shaming people who disagree in an attempt to silence them and divide us. Yet you’ve seen the abundant dialogue here. It’s the ONLY place where there is an audience that is not censored toward only one cause. Nobody, certainly not I, am trying to change anyone’s mind. I am trying to present factual information that is very aggressively kept from the public everywhere else. The entire community audience has been kept from the truth. Thank you again and again to Sowal Admins for being mature, and showing leadership, even though you might not personally agree with much of this discussion. I applaud your leadership. Now Dave, you have refused to join this discussion with intelligent discourse, and meet anyone in public for a community discussion and solution. Why?
You didn't listen to Bob's sage advise, did ya? Stop bloviating, stop badgering. Stop (please).
FloridaBeachBum avatar
Beach Fanatic
#93
Stop bloviating, stop badgering. Stop (please).
Reg, don't listen. Bob is right but doing nothing to present facts is just as bad. Some people facts just do not matter. Just their agenda.

It is only when the people become ignorant and corrupt, when they degenerate into a populace, that they are incapable of exercising their sovereignty.
Let us by all wise and constitutional measures promote intelligence among the people as the best means of preserving our liberties.
James Monroe

Badger is a frequently used nickname for someone being tough and fearless. I kind of like it.
The Crazy Honey Badger (original narration by Randall). Funny but some adult language.

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Teresa avatar
SoWal Guide
#941
A friend sent a link to a local Facebook group which is referencing directly to this SoWal discussion thread by @Reggie Gaskins to show that certain members of this forum have different perspectives on Customary Use.

This is nothing new. We have had this discussion for many years here. SoWal admin is not here to direct or shape or censor the discussion as someone in the group stated in a most rude manner (putting it mildly). Rules call for us to keep it civil. Keep sharing ideas and sources. Try to make your statement a reflection of your personal views without tearing down other community members for theirs. This is your place and you direct the discussion accordingly. Always.

We all care. We all have a voice. Thank you for keeping it respectful.

This is an open forum for the community not a private group with an agenda. All are welcome.

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Bob Wells avatar
Beach Fanatic
#95
Guess my point was that the courts will be deciding this issue
steel1man avatar
Beach Fanatic
#96
Fact: Home prices are declining
Fact: tax revenue trending down !!!!!!!!!
First to feel the pain Seaside........
Fact: Golden Goose has left the house
jodiFL avatar
Beach Fanatic
#97
Fact: Home prices are declining
Fact: tax revenue trending down !!!!!!!!!
First to feel the pain Seaside........
Fact: Golden Goose has left the house
Yep...I was just wondering why all of a sudden the BFOs and others were talking "compromise" and trying to say Walton Co. is "50% public beach" (lie, because we barely get 50% of the public beaches unless we want to pay up to the vendors). Guess word has gotten out and now folks dont want to pay $3 to
5K a week to look at "PRIVATE BEACH" signs and ugly little plastic chains. Wonder how they will make the payments on that "investment" beach house now?
Rachael Ashman McKee avatar
Beach Lover
#98
Yep...I was just wondering why all of a sudden the BFOs and others were talking "compromise" and trying to say Walton Co. is "50% public beach" (lie, because we barely get 50% of the public beaches unless we want to pay up to the vendors). Guess word has gotten out and now folks dont want to pay $3 to
5K a week to look at "PRIVATE BEACH" signs and ugly little plastic chains. Wonder how they will make the payments on that "investment" beach house now?
Ask the Sheriff, because his SOP required/ demanded all these signs. And that was the reason and the beginning of the signs. Read the WCSO SOP, signs were not an issue until the Sheriff demanded them and more.
Auburn Fan avatar
Beach Lover
#99
Just keep bloviating. You already know what we think.

Bloviating? Seriously?

Is it really necessary to resort to an insult against Reggie, instead of just coming up with an honest, well-thought out, educated reply with sound facts and reason?

Meanwhile, there's a very current SERIOUS attack on the culture of our community, waged in social media by well orchestrated agitators, with devastating consequences.

One who enjoys using words like "bloviate" might appreciate a refresher of other word definitions:

Violent:
"using or involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something"

Sniper:
"person who shoots from a hiding place, especially accurately and at long range"

Murder:
"the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another"

Yes. That very list of words strung together makes most of us uncomfortable. As it should everyone. And yet...

A local FLORIDA BEACHES FOR ALL member recently actually produced a VIOLENT SNIPER MURDER video, and just last week posted this disturbing video to a variety of social media platforms using a variety of social media accounts.

The video shows a male with a sniper rifle take aim and viciously shoot another male to death. A crowd of people is also included in the video. Possible portrayal of mass shooting? The video portrays a violent murder and the man dying , right on the beach, in front of Bud and Alley's restaurant.

And what motivated such a horrific video like this?

The large banner caption attached to the violent sniper murder video says:

“Private Beach Problem… Solved”

No wonder so many beachfront homeowners are truly scared.

FLORIDA BEACHES FOR ALL was founded last summer by David Rauschkolb.

This video currently has over 800 views. Over a dozen members have indicated their actual agreement and approval of the video posted online.

Oh, but it's just a video, not the real thing. Fun satire. Right? Fun?
Fun for whom? I can think of hundreds of families for whom that would not be funny at all.

Are we really so desensitized that a video like this is just "nothing"? much less amusing?

How DARE you try to diminish what's going on in our community by calling someone's calm, educated, respectful response to these issues mere "bloviating".

Many civilized people actually welcome this form of respectful discourse, compared to the heightened dramatic false narratives plastered on social media elsewhere. Many greatly appreciate that the moderators here have actually allowed true discourse to occur without the gross censorship that is occurring on other platforms. I for one am starting to have my eyes opened. Already several of the emotional taglines of last summer have proved to be so untrue. I'm personally re-evaluating. A lot.

That vicious video is being promoted as a celebrated solution to our very real, painful conflict from which our community is suffering.

Filmed on location. Just a few hundred feet from our own Seaside Neighborhood School.

Here in Walton County.

Where is the outrage?

Or is no one in the community speaking out because this kind of intense social media intimidation is actually working?

Is no one speaking up, just because we just don't want to bring ever more negativity into our conversations? Kumbaya.

Or are the locals thinking "If I speak out, they will send someone after me with camera and computer in attempt to make a viral YouTube video and make my life miserable"?

Is the outrage eclipsed by fear?

"If you want to control someone, all you have to do is to make them feel afraid."
~Paulo Coelho

Fear not.
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#100
Bloviating? Seriously?

Is it really necessary to resort to an insult against Reggie, instead of just coming up with an honest, well-thought out, educated reply with sound facts and reason?

Meanwhile, there's a very current SERIOUS attack on the culture of our community, waged in social media by well orchestrated agitators, with devastating consequences.

One who enjoys using words like "bloviate" might appreciate a refresher of other word definitions:

Violent:
"using or involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something"

Sniper:
"person who shoots from a hiding place, especially accurately and at long range"

Murder:
"the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another"

Yes. That very list of words strung together makes most of us uncomfortable. As it should everyone. And yet...

A local FLORIDA BEACHES FOR ALL member recently actually produced a VIOLENT SNIPER MURDER video, and just last week posted this disturbing video to a variety of social media platforms using a variety of social media accounts.

The video shows a male with a sniper rifle take aim and viciously shoot another male to death. A crowd of people is also included in the video. Possible portrayal of mass shooting? The video portrays a violent murder and the man dying , right on the beach, in front of Bud and Alley's restaurant.

And what motivated such a horrific video like this?

The large banner caption attached to the violent sniper murder video says:

“Private Beach Problem… Solved”

No wonder so many beachfront homeowners are truly scared.

FLORIDA BEACHES FOR ALL was founded last summer by David Rauschkolb.

This video currently has over 800 views. Over a dozen members have indicated their actual agreement and approval of the video posted online.

Oh, but it's just a video, not the real thing. Fun satire. Right? Fun?
Fun for whom? I can think of hundreds of families for whom that would not be funny at all.

Are we really so desensitized that a video like this is just "nothing"? much less amusing?

How DARE you try to diminish what's going on in our community by calling someone's calm, educated, respectful response to these issues mere "bloviating".

Many civilized people actually welcome this form of respectful discourse, compared to the heightened dramatic false narratives plastered on social media elsewhere. Many greatly appreciate that the moderators here have actually allowed true discourse to occur without the gross censorship that is occurring on other platforms. I for one am starting to have my eyes opened. Already several of the emotional taglines of last summer have proved to be so untrue. I'm personally re-evaluating. A lot.

That vicious video is being promoted as a celebrated solution to our very real, painful conflict from which our community is suffering.

Filmed on location. Just a few hundred feet from our own Seaside Neighborhood School.

Here in Walton County.

Where is the outrage?

Or is no one in the community speaking out because this kind of intense social media intimidation is actually working?

Is no one speaking up, just because we just don't want to bring ever more negativity into our conversations? Kumbaya.

Or are the locals thinking "If I speak out, they will send someone after me with camera and computer in attempt to make a viral YouTube video and make my life miserable"?

Is the outrage eclipsed by fear?

"If you want to control someone, all you have to do is to make them feel afraid."
~Paulo Coelho

Fear not.
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Bloviating? Seriously?

Is it really necessary to resort to an insult against Reggie, instead of just coming up with an honest, well-thought out, educated reply with sound facts and reason?

Meanwhile, there's a very current SERIOUS attack on the culture of our community, waged in social media by well orchestrated agitators, with devastating consequences.

One who enjoys using words like "bloviate" might appreciate a refresher of other word definitions:

Violent:
"using or involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something"

Sniper:
"person who shoots from a hiding place, especially accurately and at long range"

Murder:
"the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another"

Yes. That very list of words strung together makes most of us uncomfortable. As it should everyone. And yet...

A local FLORIDA BEACHES FOR ALL member recently actually produced a VIOLENT SNIPER MURDER video, and just last week posted this disturbing video to a variety of social media platforms using a variety of social media accounts.

The video shows a male with a sniper rifle take aim and viciously shoot another male to death. A crowd of people is also included in the video. Possible portrayal of mass shooting? The video portrays a violent murder and the man dying , right on the beach, in front of Bud and Alley's restaurant.

And what motivated such a horrific video like this?

The large banner caption attached to the violent sniper murder video says:

“Private Beach Problem… Solved”

No wonder so many beachfront homeowners are truly scared.

FLORIDA BEACHES FOR ALL was founded last summer by David Rauschkolb.

This video currently has over 800 views. Over a dozen members have indicated their actual agreement and approval of the video posted online.

Oh, but it's just a video, not the real thing. Fun satire. Right? Fun?
Fun for whom? I can think of hundreds of families for whom that would not be funny at all.

Are we really so desensitized that a video like this is just "nothing"? much less amusing?

How DARE you try to diminish what's going on in our community by calling someone's calm, educated, respectful response to these issues mere "bloviating".

Many civilized people actually welcome this form of respectful discourse, compared to the heightened dramatic false narratives plastered on social media elsewhere. Many greatly appreciate that the moderators here have actually allowed true discourse to occur without the gross censorship that is occurring on other platforms. I for one am starting to have my eyes opened. Already several of the emotional taglines of last summer have proved to be so untrue. I'm personally re-evaluating. A lot.

That vicious video is being promoted as a celebrated solution to our very real, painful conflict from which our community is suffering.

Filmed on location. Just a few hundred feet from our own Seaside Neighborhood School.

Here in Walton County.

Where is the outrage?

Or is no one in the community speaking out because this kind of intense social media intimidation is actually working?

Is no one speaking up, just because we just don't want to bring ever more negativity into our conversations? Kumbaya.

Or are the locals thinking "If I speak out, they will send someone after me with camera and computer in attempt to make a viral YouTube video and make my life miserable"?

Is the outrage eclipsed by fear?

"If you want to control someone, all you have to do is to make them feel afraid."
~Paulo Coelho

Fear not.
the string of words you put together was quite a bit worse than the word “bloviate”. You are a fear-monger. No one on this site ever used that kind of language until you.
jodiFL avatar
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@Auburn Fan ....I get updates from FLORIDA BEACHES FOR ALL and have NEVER seen a video of this type posted.

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