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joho

Beach Fanatic
Aug 5, 2005
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I believe it depends on your deed and platted S/D
 

tuck

Beach Lover
Dec 17, 2005
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Ro is a crook of all crooks. People should ask him to not only recuse himself but ask that he be removed from the building in case any other commissioners are influenced by is nasty presence.
 

Smiling JOe

SoWal Expert
Nov 18, 2004
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Ro is a crook of all crooks. People should ask him to not only recuse himself but ask that he be removed from the building in case any other commissioners are influenced by is nasty presence.
I thought Ro was going to cry at one of the meetings regarding his giving specific directions to dump the illegal sand on the beach. As stated, we need his resignation for such acts that his company committed, and his company needs to suffer the consequences if Ro convinced homeowners that the illegaly sand was going to pass, or if he told the homeowners that they didn't need no stinkin' survey to put up a seawall. As stated earlier, a reputable company will require a current survey before installing a fence, much less building a $200,000+ seawall with another $100,000 of sand, and who knows how much for the geotube, multiplied by the six homes in violation.

Sounds very much like the judge's son (the Realtor) and his partner and Broker/owner getting off with a wrist slap for dredging illegal canals on the development in Freeport. --- small town politics.
 
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Pirate

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Jan 2, 2006
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I thought Ro was going to cry at one of the meetings regarding his giving specific directions to dump the illegal sand on the beach. As stated, we need his resignation for such acts that his company committed, and his company needs to suffer the consequences if Ro convinced homeowners that the illegaly sand was going to pass, or if he told the homeowners that they didn't need no stinkin' survey to put up a seawall. As stated earlier, a reputable company will require a current survey before installing a fence, much less building a $200,000+ seawall with another $100,000 of sand, and who knows how much for the geotube, multiplied by the six homes in violation.

Sounds very much like the judge's son (the Realtor) and his partner and Broker/owner getting off with a wrist slap for dredging illegal canals on the development in Freeport. --- small town politics.

In Atlanta I have been fined 30k once by the EPA for disturbing vegetation in a stream buffer and 10k for letting erosion out of a silt fence. I have also seen a building permit revoked and the land deemed unbuildable for similar offenses. I realize the shovel full of silt in the woods is much worse than hundreds of tons of dirt on a beach but hey...

The offending parcels should be bought by the offending contractor and all illegal fill removed. Then the property should be restored in accordance with the law and donated as a public park. Or the offenders could simply go to prison for conversion of property and violating the endangered species act. Where is the talk of legal action here?
 
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BeachSteelers

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Feb 18, 2006
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Redfish Marine was involved in the "GEE YOO TUBE is UGLY" below Montgomery St. What a quality outfit they are...NOT!
ALSO NOTE: TDC is now submitting NEW Beach Oridinances that for starters would NOT allow county residents to take their dogs onto the beach. This PUBLIC beach they've wrecklessly allowed these walls and tubes installed apon? Whom are these folks really protecting. OH wait didn't one county commissioner have a stake in one local seawall company?
Anyone see a need for some change in local leadership? Or should we just keep letting ourselves be governed by "special interests"? I reiterate my plea to VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBENTS regardless of political affiliations. Gov't was not intented to be run by professional lawyers and corporations. It was a public service provided by citizens who sevred their terms and then moved on in life. NOT a lifetime career. Where lets see they give themselves a FAT raise each term, waste untold billions like it's their right and look you in the eye and LIE like the airlines to you.
Nov. 6th is less than a month away. Register. Vote. Remember they make it hard to vote(one day.long lines) so they can keep stickin it to us!
I'll try a deep breath now. Hard to calm down bout this Sorry but it's important!
 

Smiling JOe

SoWal Expert
Nov 18, 2004
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Redfish Marine was involved in the "GEE YOO TUBE is UGLY" below Montgomery St. What a quality outfit they are...NOT!
ALSO NOTE: TDC is now submitting NEW Beach Oridinances that for starters would NOT allow county residents to take their dogs onto the beach. This PUBLIC beach they've wrecklessly allowed these walls and tubes installed apon? Whom are these folks really protecting. OH wait didn't one county commissioner have a stake in one local seawall company?
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Well, they wouldn't want a dog scratching through the sand and accidently ripping open the geotubes, thereby sending all of the black-colored sand onto our beaches, now would they? I sometimes feel like taking action into my own hands, but for now, I will refrain, because I am usually a peaceful soul.
 

BPickelTDC

Beach Lover
Jun 30, 2006
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I hope it is ok to weigh in here, but I am COMPLETELY confused on how the TDC became involved in this matter so I guess I will have to go search more links.

For the record, the TDC still does not have a role in the decision making for seawalls OR dogs on the beach. The TDC has not had a meeting since September and I know they haven't made any comment regarding dogs on the beach unless it occurred today while I have been out of town.

For the record, the Beach Improvements Committee of the TDC asked Leslie Campbell to come to our last meeting to highlight concerns by individuals or groups regarding the beach activities ordinance that SHE oversees. The whole purpose was for public information and education, which this board typically supports. Much discussion occurred, and individual communtiy members made input but the committee made no recommendation AT ALL. Additionally, the recommendation of the committee would have gone to the TDC, which there is no recommendation.

I guess my point is that I have been trying to actively participate in the discussions on this board and provide accurate information where possible. All I ask in return is to receive those questions directly so that an honest discussion can occur instead of he said she said. I personally don't believe its fair to attack until a lack of understanding is reached. My email address continues to be bpickel@beachesofsouthwalton.com

PLEASE email me directly if you have concerns so that I can try and find the answer instead of unfair, and more importantly, unfounded criticisms occur. If I appear ovrly sensitive, I apologize, its just that I have always felt that this board wants to know all sides of an issue before they start lobbing hand grenades and it hasn't happened in this case. Thank you, I am now off my soapbox.

Brad Pickel
Director of Beach Management
Walton County TDC
 

Smiling JOe

SoWal Expert
Nov 18, 2004
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I hope it is ok to weigh in here, but I am COMPLETELY confused on how the TDC became involved in this matter so I guess I will have to go search more links.

For the record, the TDC still does not have a role in the decision making for seawalls OR dogs on the beach. The TDC has not had a meeting since September and I know they haven't made any comment regarding dogs on the beach unless it occurred today while I have been out of town.

For the record, the Beach Improvements Committee of the TDC asked Leslie Campbell to come to our last meeting to highlight concerns by individuals or groups regarding the beach activities ordinance that SHE oversees. The whole purpose was for public information and education, which this board typically supports. Much discussion occurred, and individual communtiy members made input but the committee made no recommendation AT ALL. Additionally, the recommendation of the committee would have gone to the TDC, which there is no recommendation.

I guess my point is that I have been trying to actively participate in the discussions on this board and provide accurate information where possible. All I ask in return is to receive those questions directly so that an honest discussion can occur instead of he said she said. I personally don't believe its fair to attack until a lack of understanding is reached. My email address continues to be bpickel@beachesofsouthwalton.com

PLEASE email me directly if you have concerns so that I can try and find the answer instead of unfair, and more importantly, unfounded criticisms occur. If I appear ovrly sensitive, I apologize, its just that I have always felt that this board wants to know all sides of an issue before they start lobbing hand grenades and it hasn't happened in this case. Thank you, I am now off my soapbox.

Brad Pickel
Director of Beach Management
Walton County TDC

Thanks for chiming in, Brad. We appreciate the direct reports.
 

Smiling JOe

SoWal Expert
Nov 18, 2004
31,644
1,773
The real joke in this County has nothing to do with the TDC. It lies in the fact that many people understand that in order to get things done in WalCo, it is much easier, faster, and cheaper to ask forgiveness, rather than permission. I think this seawall example is par for the course, unfortunately. This ball of twine has grown so large that the Commissioners cannot see the other side of the ball. Tomorrow's decision by the BCC will be speedy. Sure, there will be several of the usual vocals, who are in the majority, oddly enough (usually, the minority is most vocal), stand up and state their case and the BCC will sit there unfased. After hearing the discussion, they will rapidly approve of the seawalls and move on, with some boos and hisses from the audience. I am not a betting man, but you can rest assure that the outcome will be as I describe.
 
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