Seawalls Built on Public Beach

[Here4Good]

What agency is responsible for ethics violations by county commissioners? Is there even such a thing in the State of Florida?

(Donning my superbrowser cape, I exit to the MyFlorida site, looking for the answers......)

 

[Smiling JOe]

Maybe I should erect a privacy fence around the third of my property which the WalCo took from me to make road, even though there is land on the otherside of my property which was designated as the road way in the county plats. When, I ask, will this County stand up and do the right thing? It seems to me that when the County decides to allow the taking of public property for private use, they are setting precedent for further taking iof public land in the future, and so the cycle continues.

Can someone please explain this to me? I just don't understand the logic.

 

[Smiling JOe]

What?

 

[BPickelTDC]

What?

Wrong button on blackberry led to inadvertent post before I typed my message.. Sorry

I was just going to say thanks for the response. I knew the last thing we wanted to be "responsible" for was dogs.

I am glad to be part of a community that actively participates in the decision-making process so please continue to let me know if I can answer any questions and I will try.

 

[BeachSteelers]

I also do appreciate Mr. Pickle trying to be part of the forum here. But I stand by my statements. This County has Knowingly and Intentially allowed Unpermitted structures (tubes and walls) to be placed onto Public Property. And I hope the DEP does the right thing by forcing their removal.And our elected officials have Knowingly violated State and Federal laws in regards to this matter.For any of them to say they knew nothing about this is complete and utter BS!!!
As per new dogs ordinances...it may be true nothing has been discussed concerning this, however this forum exists, in part I believe, to help inform local residents of "rumors" heard around here. And some false ones will be spread for sure but the good will outweigh the bad here. My point is such "Rumors" help locals try and determine what kind of County we want to have here.To rally support for important causes. This forum allows for Pre-Activism to Occur. I'm trying to rally support for Dogs on the beach! They aren't the problem on the beach. The Animals that own dogs are. The Animals that don't own dogs are too. Dogs don't leave straws,cups chairs,tents,umbrellas,beer cans,bottles,baggies,Ciggy Butts, food and so on. WE DUMB ANIMALS DO!
I've been told now by both Miss Meadows and Mr. Pickle that no such new beach oridinances concerning dogs are being crafted. Good, I'm estatic, and I hope I'm hearing the Truth. I'll spread that rumor/truth now also. So now I can stop wasting my time here and go walk my dog on the beach. Whom this Dumb Animal will pick up after if by chance he poops there. Enforce the codes on the books and unleash,nonpermitted,crap leaving Animals won't trash up the best beach in the Country. And their dogs can come too!
My soap box is getting too tall to jump off any more. Sorry.

 

[BPickelTDC]

I also do appreciate Mr. Pickle trying to be part of the forum here. But I stand by my statements. This County has Knowingly and Intentially allowed Unpermitted structures (tubes and walls) to be placed onto Public Property. And I hope the DEP does the right thing by forcing their removal.And our elected officials have Knowingly violated State and Federal laws in regards to this matter.For any of them to say they knew nothing about this is complete and utter BS!!!
As per new dogs ordinances...it may be true nothing has been discussed concerning this, however this forum exists, in part I believe, to help inform local residents of "rumors" heard around here. And some false ones will be spread for sure but the good will outweigh the bad here. My point is such "Rumors" help locals try and determine what kind of County we want to have here.To rally support for important causes. This forum allows for Pre-Activism to Occur. I'm trying to rally support for Dogs on the beach! They aren't the problem on the beach. The Animals that own dogs are. The Animals that don't own dogs are too. Dogs don't leave straws,cups chairs,tents,umbrellas,beer cans,bottles,baggies,Ciggy Butts, food and so on. WE DUMB ANIMALS DO!
I've been told now by both Miss Meadows and Mr. Pickle that no such new beach oridinances concerning dogs are being crafted. Good, I'm estatic, and I hope I'm hearing the Truth. I'll spread that rumor/truth now also. So now I can stop wasting my time here and go walk my dog on the beach. Whom this Dumb Animal will pick up after if by chance he poops there. Enforce the codes on the books and unleash,nonpermitted,crap leaving Animals won't trash up the best beach in the Country. And their dogs can come too!
My soap box is getting too tall to jump off any more. Sorry.

Thanks BS. I want to focus on the second half of your email regarding rumors and the TDC, as that is why I weighed in.

Pre-activism is critical, activism is critical and post-activism is critical and makes our area great. But, this thread alone shows to me how activism can work with facts and not rumors. Anita and the SWCC have done a tremendous job of research to educate all of us on seawalls and public property issues. She has clearly defined a stance and developed a position paper. This takes a tremendous amount of effort and should be appreciated no matter which side you take.

My concern came when a VERY factual based thread had a rumor included that had not been checked. I would not expect the level of fact checking that the SWCC has exerted, all I asked for was a phone call or an email. As someone who has worked for the County for almost 7 years, I spend a tremendous amount of time clarifying rumors, and the unfortunate side is that a rumor can be like a cancer. It spreads and spreads and the doctor hopes they get it all just like this County employee hopes he can reach all the people who have the incorrect information. I personally believe that this approach leads to more angst and consternation with no positive outcome. I can't speak for other agencies but the TDC does its best to be as transparent and open as possible. I just am not sure how spreading rumors help any situation.

Finally, based on your last post, it appears that you did fact check with Comm. Meadows and she told you the TDC wasn't working on an ordinace. I have posted more times than I can count that we are not a regulatory agency and yet we were not even contacted and this information was not included in your original post.

I will end by saying a collaboration is only good as its communication. If you have concerns, ask questions- if you are ignored, let people know. This is a much more productive avenue for change IMO.

I honestly don't know where the dog issue stands in the ordinance so for the most up-to-date information regarding the Beach Activity Ordinance, contact Leslie Campbell at the County planning office or camleslie@co.walton.fl.us

Thanks again all for this opportunity.

Brad

 

[BeachSteelers]

Rumor has it that Miss Titus says a County beach ordidance is being Drafted to not alow dogs on the beach along with answering the question of tents,chairs and umbrellas left on the beach. Who drafts such documents that are sent to the County for approval?

 

[BPickelTDC]

Rumor has it that Miss Titus says a County beach ordidance is being Drafted to not alow dogs on the beach along with answering the question of tents,chairs and umbrellas left on the beach. Who drafts such documents that are sent to the County for approval?

As posted previously the review and any recommended changes are being overseen by Leslie Campbell- Beach Activities Coordinator, not the TDC.

 

[ecopal]

For anyone wanting to view the Montgomery Street Plat with exact sizes of the lots and designation of the beach as public this is how to do it:

go to this website:
http://clerkofcourts.co.walton.fl.us/ORSearch/Search/bookpageframe.htm

then enter PLAT, book 2, page 46