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TooFarTampa

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I've been reading through the DEP permitting guidlines for structures to be constructed seaward of the CCCL, which according to SJ's information appears to apply to the NatureWalk beach club. Here's one very interesting nugget. Before a property owner can even apply for a DEP permit, one requirement is that the owner must supply:

"Written evidence, provided by the appropriate local government agency having jurisdiction over the activity, that the proposed activity, as submitted to the Bureau, does not contravene local setback requirements or zoning codes and is consistent with the state approved Local Comprehensive plan."

Interesting ...
 

Smiling JOe

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I've been reading through the DEP permitting guidlines for structures to be constructed seaward of the CCCL, which according to SJ's information appears to apply to the NatureWalk beach club. Here's one very interesting nugget. Before a property owner can even apply for a DEP permit, one requirement is that the owner must supply:

"Written evidence, provided by the appropriate local government agency having jurisdiction over the activity, that the proposed activity, as submitted to the Bureau, does not contravene local setback requirements or zoning codes and is consistent with the state approved Local Comprehensive plan."

Interesting ...
That may sound great on the surface, but the County basically said in their vote last night that the new buildings would meet setbacks and that it "met code requirements," so that might not be the best route to take.

TFT, you are all over this like brown on wild rice. Please remind me of what your background is and how you are so darn knowledgeable regarding County Planning et al.
 

TooFarTampa

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That may sound great on the surface, but the County basically said in their vote last night that the new buildings would meet setbacks and that it "met code requirements," so that might not be the best route to take.

:sosad: Even if it is a lie?

TFT, you are all over this like brown on wild rice. Please remind me of what your background is and how you are so darn knowledgeable regarding County Planning et al.

:D

Oh, I just have a bee in my bonnet, have experience with public records and Florida's Sunshine Laws, and an honest belief that people ought to know when their leaders are not abiding by their government's own rules.

Also, my dad is an architect and was a very early environmentalist/rabble rouser. He loves to spar with his city commissioners at meetings, especially when they are televised. He would do it every week if he could. :rotfl: I am not so in-your-face, but he has often preached to me the importance of permitting and following the building codes, and I guess I absorbed a bit of it despite my best efforts to ignore him. :funn:

I swear, I read posts like this and I get the urge to drive up there and comb through public records. Someone please do it for me and report back. :razz:
 

greenroomsurfer

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Surfers love big giant hurricane swells and those same swells love to eat ocean front property. Just remember folks Mother nature doesn't take cash or checks, she takes what she wants when she wants. put the bullseye on the forementioned beachclub! Lets hope they have nice furnishings, we'll loot that place first.
 

Bobby J

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Surfers love big giant hurricane swells and those same swells love to eat ocean front property. Just remember folks Mother nature doesn't take cash or checks, she takes what she wants when she wants. put the bullseye on the forementioned beachclub! Lets hope they have nice furnishings, we'll loot that place first.


Not all surfers loot :cool:
 

rapunzel

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Nov 30, 2005
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Not all surfers loot :cool:

They may as well...that place will be gone pecan when a decent storm rolls through. The site is already undermined, the beach there is virtually non-existent. If the surfers don't loot, they should at least steal any cars parked there once the evacuation is complete.

What insurer is going to cover a car garaged under a freaking dune? And what is that going to cost the rest of us on our car insurance? From an insurance perspective, I think the whole plan is ridiculous. Why increase the value of improvements on a gulf front property by 1000% when the only insurance available is underwritten by the state? Where are my neo con friends now when the market is not being allowed to do what the market would do without interference? Citizens should not be asked to assume the liability for this vanity project.
 

SHELLY

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Jun 13, 2005
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I'm surprised when I read these seemingly negative comments about the over-development in the SoWal area...as if the horror just started happening yesterday??? :dunno:

Not so very long ago, while the natural beauty surrounding the entire area of 30-A was being stripped away for new subdivisions and "upmarket" development by JOE & friends it was all rollie-pollies :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: and happy-clappies :clap_1: :clap_1: :clap_1:

Greed moved into this area about 6 years ago...first quietly on its own, then gathering momentum and support as it took many along for the ride. There is no putting this genie back into the bottle.

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greenroomsurfer

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maybe I should have choosen a different word than loot, how about repatriate. If my wind insurance keeps skyrocketing, I;m paying for it anyway and if its in front of the federal line of demarcation I'll declare salvage rights.
 

Smiling JOe

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maybe I should have choosen a different word than loot, how about repatriate. If my wind insurance keeps skyrocketing, I;m paying for it anyway and if its in front of the federal line of demarcation I'll declare salvage rights.
You could call it "Hilirizing." Remember how she wants to take corporate profits for gov't expansion? ...but, that should be it's own thread.;-)
 

seacrestkristi

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Nov 27, 2005
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Why, SJ, why? :bang: I was trying not to go there out of respect for you and this thread. Trying to give you a little break cuz I know how much you hate Hillary. You had to go open that BS.
Please note it was the 2 WOMEN commisioners that voted the morally correct way!!!!!!!!!! Please leave Hillary out of this sheeet as it only dilutes the subject. Haven't women taken enough crap this week??? :eek:
There is strength in numbers. Please don't try to divide us on this.
 
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