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scooterbug44

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Time for an update. As you may know the stock market has started a long overdue correction. As I have stated before, the market always gives you a good opportunity 2 or 3 times a year to add to positions. This is the 2nd opportunity after the Feb/March sell off. This is the BEGINNING of the correction. It will probably continue for another 4-6 weeks or another 5% -6% on the downside. I would suggest making up a list of blue chip high dividend paying stocks to buy. Companies such as Bank of America, Citicorp, Coca cola, Johnson and Johnson, Proctor and Gamble, Chevron, Pepsi, Altria , Chubb Insurance, General Mills, Microsoft. Or if you are uncomfortable buying individual stoack, a good low cost S&P 500 index fund is also fine. The talking heads are saying that interest rate are going higher ( they have ticked up ) and that Bill Gross has turned bearish on the bond market ( he has been wrong for 2 years ) and that emerging markets are way ahead of themselves ( true ) and that there are too many speculative private equity deals going on ( also true ) BUT..these are the excuses for a very natural, healthy AND normal correction. The market will work higher over the long term given present economic conditions. All bets are off if there is an exogenous event like a nuclear device being set off somewhere in the world by terrorists.
As far as housing stocks, I am queasy about pulling the trigger because we may be going into another housing swoon. Having said that, I will buy a 25% position in KBH at 38 a 25% position in JOE at 40 a 25% position in Centex and a 25% position in Lennar at 40.....all my limits are below the market. The reasoning being that the recession/depression in housing has to end someday and I think it will take another 3 years of bumping along before supply /demand normalizes so I am willing to leg in very slowly. I DO like MASCO at these prices and Home Depot at 36 and Lowes at 31. I would suggest nibbling on the way down. No one rings a bell at tops or bottoms whether in stocks, commodities or real estate. But all markets always over-react whether going up or down. Take advantage of the oppurtunities that are developing in the stock market.
Home Depot is tanking and I highly advise against purchasing it. It's worth less than half what it was a year ago and continues to fall due to the housing market and general consumer dissatisfaction. I 've been hoping for a slight rebound so I can sell it as friends and family in various states are all reporting horribly on their services. Johnson & Johnson and Altria are good.
 

goofer

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Scooterbug44

Here's your opportunity to sell Home Depot. Trading up 2 points in the after mkt. Announced a 22.5 billion dollar buyback. Are you still going to sell ?
 

scooterbug44

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Scooterbug44

Here's your opportunity to sell Home Depot. Trading up 2 points in the after mkt. Announced a 22.5 billion dollar buyback. Are you still going to sell ?

Yes! I'm waiting for it to hit the right number before selling so I don't lose $ on the overall transaction. HD is on my list for a variety of reasons and I've been waiting for a price increase so I can unload it. Will be interesting to see what the price is by the close of the market - I think others have been waiting to unload as well.

I am a long term casual investor and I base my decisions both on my personal experiences & the feedback of friends and family. All are reporting horrendous customer service and great dissatisfaction with Home Depot in addition to my annoyance and issues with them.
 

goofer

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anecdotal evidence can bite you on the butt. i like to buy --------- in the winter. (shelly, please fill in the blanks :D ) i bought hd in july of 06 at 33.50. i am waiting for long term to kick in so i get the 15% preferential tax treatment but may sell the aug 40 calls because i don't think there is much upside in hd from here.
 

goofer

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Hi Shelly,

Note post #20 and the parameters I set. I am still waiting for KBH CTX LEN and JOE to trade down further. Maybe I will see that flush to my limits, but in any event that is where I live and only for a 25% position. I still like MAS. Lightening struck with HD, which I was long and would have added to if it got to 36. LOWES.....I am still long and will add at 31 if it gets there.
 

scooterbug44

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Anecdotal evidence caveat aside, I consider it a strong sign that a retail company is not doing well when it is inadequately meeting my needs and poorly servicing multiple friends both in this area and other states. In addition to my experiences, consumer dissatisfaction was at such high levels the new CEO issued an apology and promised changes on the MSN message boards.

I typically do not sell a stock once I have have purchased it, but they've really peesed me off good.

Unfortunately, I bought it at 39 (instead of 33.5 like you) so I need it to go up a bit more.
 

goofer

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Scooterbug

I agree with you that when management recognizes a problem, admits there is a problem, and does something to address the problem...that is a good sign. It may take a long time to turn things at HD especially in this tough environment. But investing in stocks is completely different .....sometimes bad news is good news for speculators because it creates the opportunity !!!!! There was much talk about a private equity player looking at Home Depot....that is squashed now. A PE investor would have gutted the company.
There has been talk of PE looking at JOE. I think something was at the discussion phase because the stock was acting suspiciously well in a very tough environment. The stock has since tumbled from the high 50's so I guess those talks fizzled. I will pounce on it if it gets to 40 because there is too much value in the company and an outsider ( a RAIDER) could extract that value. Sometimes present fundamentals, both good and bad, mask the future. The stock market is a forecasting mechanism.
 

scooterbug44

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I'm a neophyte investor, I know my limitations/savvy level so most of my $ is in a variety of funds where I can leave the analysis and selection to experts.

For a more personal connection/fun I buy stocks in companies I know/whose products I use and see how my general satisfaction level with the company is reflected in the overall consumer market/stock price.

Home Depot is on the chopping block because it has lost my confidence and planted itself on the scooterbug sheet list (a very bad place to be). Otherwise it would have led a happy and carefree existence for another 25-30 years.

I won't buy Joe because I have very little faith in their company's long term planning and management as a whole.
 
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goofer

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You are a "Peter Lynch" investor. Peter Lynch was the most successful fund manager in the history of Fidelity. He would discover great companies because he was at the malls with his daughter and he would always want feedback from her on the products she and her friends were interested in. He was one of the biggest and earliest investors in The Body Shop. He also was the biggest shareholder in Dunkin Donuts because he loved the concept and the product. He would invest in companies that he , the consumer, loved and used. He has written several books that I highly recommend. He was a common sense investor. Perhaps you can become the next Peter Lynch !!! :clap: :clap:
 
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