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scooterbug44

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May 8, 2007
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Scooter was found guilty on 4 counts by a jury and had his sentence commuted because of his political connections. PERIOD.

President Bush previously did not want to "interfere" with the court system despite pleas from various leaders (including the pope) to commute a woman's sentence from death to life in prison, but apparently 30 months of time for a political crony is excessive! Of course, he did still have to pay the $250,000 fine ......... and had a $5 million dollar private defense fund.
 

6thGen

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Scooter was found guilty on 4 counts by a jury and had his sentence commuted because of his political connections. PERIOD.

President Bush previously did not want to "interfere" with the court system despite pleas from various leaders (including the pope) to commute a woman's sentence from death to life in prison, but apparently 30 months of time for a political crony is excessive! Of course, he did still have to pay the $250,000 fine ......... and had a $5 million dollar private defense fund.

What was Libby found guilty of? The crime itself, not the charge. When Fitzgerald started on the case, what did he know about the leaks? The political connections are what got Libby indicted, not what got his sentence commuted.
 

For The Health Of It

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What was Libby found guilty of? The crime itself, not the charge. When Fitzgerald started on the case, what did he know about the leaks? The political connections are what got Libby indicted, not what got his sentence commuted.

was there a leak or not? If there was, who leaked it? No one should be above the law, not the aides, not the VP, not the Pres.
 

6thGen

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was there a leak or not? If there was, who leaked it? No one should be above the law, not the aides, not the VP, not the Pres.

Here's the jist of it. Wilson goes to Africa to have cocktails in hotel lounges and look into undermining the administration. He comes back, tells the administration that Saddam was seeking yellowcake. Bush mentions it in the SOTU and Wilson goes to the NYT and tells them that Saddam was not seeking yellowcake, and leads everyone to believe that the administration sent him. They did not. When everyone in the WH reads what Wilson wrote, they say that they didn't send him. His wife, who is in the CIA, arranged the trip. Nothing wrong mentioning that because she wasn't covert, and even if she was, they had no idea. The Nation (Matthew somethingorother) was the first to report that she might have been covert. Their unnamed source - 99% chance was Wilson. Lots of finger pointing going on, lots of reporters talking to WH insiders, etc. Armitage was the one that first leaked it to Novak. Armitage was in the State Dept and no fan of Cheney's group. He was never charged with a damn thing, even though Fitzpatrick knew who leaked it, his target was the VP office. Libby is questioned, doesn't bring an attorney at Bush's request for all his staff since Bush knew they did nothing wrong, another blown bit of attempted goodwill. Libby gets confused where he heard Plame, who was in Vanity Fair a few weeks beforehand and obviously not covert, was in the CIA. He says Fat Timmy Russert told him, but Fat Timmy did not. Libby claims he got mixed up, but Fitzpatrick says he intentionally lied and misled them. To out a covert CIA agent, they have to be covert, you have to know they were covert and intentionally leak it with malice intent. The administration only leaked it, when they had no idea that she was covert, which she was not, because of Wilson's lie that he was sent by the WH rather than Foggy Bottom.

As for pardons, no one here who supports Clinton should give Bush any hell on pardons.
 

Bob

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Nov 16, 2004
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Was Forrest Gump or you there for that version of the Libby conviction?
 

Bob

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I don't have a "version". I know there's no way your linear assertions can all be true. You weren't there. All I need to know about Scooter is that he once defended Marc Rich, billionaire scumbag. The pardon machine comes full circle. You are defending a well educated felon.
 

Bob

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I'm not going to argue point by point your version of what happened to Libby. He stands convicted of perjury, obstruction of justice, and making false statements to the Feds. Perhaps you can add the jury as those conspiring against Scooter. This man got what he deserved protecting his bosses. I find it interesting that Libby would take money defending the likes of former fugitive Marc Rich. In my mind, the stench of that relationship will never wash off.
 
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