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wrobert

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I'm still not convinced as a life long democrat. Although he seems to be the only candidate who really speaks common sense I still don't trust a republican.

He is really a Libertarian. So far he has not stated that he would endorse the winner of the Republican primary. He wants the platform that the party is providing, but does not necessarily supportive of the party's choice, if it is not him.
 

Matt J

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He is really a Libertarian. So far he has not stated that he would endorse the winner of the Republican primary. He wants the platform that the party is providing, but does not necessarily supportive of the party's choice, if it is not him.

Thank you for the correction. I forgot that he is using the republican party for a better chance at getting elected.
 

30abob

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He is really a Libertarian. So far he has not stated that he would endorse the winner of the Republican primary. He wants the platform that the party is providing, but does not necessarily supportive of the party's choice, if it is not him.

I think he HAS answered this question directly (at least in the clip I saw from one of the previous debates), by saying that he would NOT support the nominee of the Republican party unless that nominee's positions were similar to his own - while acknowledging that none currently did. He said this without apology to the party. This commitment of purpose/values is quite frankly what so many people find appealing about him, I know I do.

If you don't think that the Republican party has serious problems consider this:
  1. I'm a 38 year old white male
  2. Married to the same woman for almost 18 years
  3. Have four children
  4. Live in the South (Georgia until recently)
  5. My parents are from the "builder" generation and have been married for 45 years
  6. Have a management position with a large company
  7. Owned a small business for 3 years
  8. WAS an associate pastor for 3 years prior to that
  9. I have voted for the Republican presidential candidate for the past 20 years
AND I DON"T FEEL LIKE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY POSITIONS REPRESENT ME OR MY IDEALS! Not that the Democrats positions appeal to me either.

The last two presidential election cycles have demonstrated that America is pretty evenly divided when given a choice between the two conventional party lines. What will happen when someone like Ron Paul appeals to those on both sides of convention? I don't know exactly but it ought to be interesting!

By the way I've considered my political views to be most closely aligned with the Libertarian party for the past 3 years.
 

rehdrahk

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My wife and I compliment each other on the subject of Ron Paul...

I'm cynical about his chances, so I will vote for him in the primary (had to change my registration to do so in the Sunshine state) knowing that he will most likely never win the nomination from a major party.

My wife is a conspiracy theorist and avid supporter (who goes to "meet up" groups, marches in parades, and holds signs and waves at cars) that believes she's really making a difference in other peoples opinions.

...on second thought maybe we don't compliment each other at all.:dunno:

Saw the float last night and held up my sign to support the cause.

I surely hope that everyone starts to become politically energized in the next few weeks. It is really important to know that Florida is a closed state, therefore you must be registered for the party you wish to vote for in the primaries ... I too changed from independent to republican to cast my first ever primary vote for Ron Paul.

It is nice to see that people are starting to realize that RP is not a a fringe candidate and that if you actually take the time to go on you tube and watch his videos ( [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA"]YouTube - Ron Paul: A New Hope[/ame] ), you too may see why he drawing support from such a wide fan base :) (Soldiers, Repubs, Indpens, Democs, Disfranchised voters ... and overall just a whole array of freedom and truth seeking Americans.
 
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wrobert

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I think he HAS answered this question directly (at least in the clip I saw from one of the previous debates), by saying that he would NOT support the nominee of the Republican party unless that nominee's positions were similar to his own - while acknowledging that none currently did. He said this without apology to the party.
Then run as an independent. Don't get me wrong. The system is flawed. He has to use the Republican Party to be able to get the media coverage through the debates and events. But, within the system, there are some, I guess I would say unwritten rules or protocols. And one of them is no matter how many candidates that you have for a position, once the party chooses one, then we all come together and get that person elected.

As for Ron Paul, I agree with a lot of what he says, mainly we need to quit trying to please everyone. Free markets do work if allowed too. We spend way too much money trying to make our friends happy. Politricks, as Joe calls them are everywhere.

But how different is someone that knowingly is taking advantage of the system while trying to be a candidate of character?
 

wrobert

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  1. I'm a 38 year old white male
  2. Married to the same woman for almost 18 years
  3. Have four children
  4. Live in the South (Georgia until recently)
  5. My parents are from the "builder" generation and have been married for 45 years
  6. Have a management position with a large company
  7. Owned a small business for 3 years
  8. WAS an associate pastor for 3 years prior to that
  9. I have voted for the Republican presidential candidate for the past 20 years
AND I DON"T FEEL LIKE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY POSITIONS REPRESENT ME OR MY IDEALS! Not that the Democrats positions appeal to me either.

The last two presidential election cycles have demonstrated that America is pretty evenly divided when given a choice between the two conventional party lines. What will happen when someone like Ron Paul appeals to those on both sides of convention? I don't know exactly but it ought to be interesting!

By the way I've considered my political views to be most closely aligned with the Libertarian party for the past 3 years.

We have quite a bit in common and I too feel your pain. I have struggled with the direction the Republican party is going for several years. I try to keep my focus on local politics, but even that is getting hard to do with some of the things that local Republicans are doing. I seem to identify more with libertarian views, especially when it comes to social issues, then anything else. But I keep thinking that maybe the Republicans will wake up and realize that people really want conservative government. But then I probably am living in my own little dream world.

I can tell you this. You need to get involved. Be it Republican or Democrat, that, I am convinced is the key. Right now we have no one coming to the local Republican club meetings or executive committee meetings speaking for Ron Paul. I have contacted all of the Presidential candidates and asked them to send people to speak, to no avail. Only Mitt Romney came to the regional dinner that was recently held. People are craving information and if Ron Paul were to win Walton County, I think it would send a serious wake up message to the locally elected officials. Just my thoughts.
 

Smiling JOe

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WaltonGOP, I don't think Ron Paul is trying to work the system. Rather, I think that his political thoughts align more with what has traditionally been the Republican Party, which has now shifted to center. If anyone is trying to work the system, it is all of the other heavy spending, large gov't candidates running under the guise of being Republicans. Want to get some people to show up at Republican mtgs? Get the crooks, large-govt thinking people to stop calling themselves Republicans, out of office.
 

wrobert

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WaltonGOP, I don't think Ron Paul is trying to work the system. Rather, I think that his political thoughts align more with what has traditionally been the Republican Party, which has now shifted to center. If anyone is trying to work the system, it is all of the other heavy spending, large gov't candidates running under the guise of being Republicans. Want to get some people to show up at Republican mtgs? Get the crooks, large-govt thinking people to stop calling themselves Republicans, out of office.


Don't I wish. There should be some sort of a program where you could actually kick someone out. But they say they want a big tent and they want everyone in it. I realize everyone does not believe as I do, I sort of like being by myself from time to time.
 

Smiling JOe

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Nov 18, 2004
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I just remembered one other thing that has to happen to get people to show up at the GOP mtgs. You have to take away people's TVs, alcohol and firearms. Do that, and I guarantee your party's success.
 
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