Who is, this man??? Why does he want to save, my country?

[ckhagen]

I should add... his 1988 run on the Libertarian ticket was actually at the Libertarian party's request IIRC and he was still a registered Republican during the race.

Ya'll act like he just showed up to the Republican party this year, which is by and far not the case. He's been a Republican far longer than Guiliani and has been an elected official *as a Republican* for longer than any other Rep in the race!

He was one of only FOUR Republican Congressmen to endorse Reagan during the '76 election.

 

[Bob]

I have watched Ron Paul in several of the GOP debates. He does not appear to be a Republican. He is a Libertarian and that is fine, but to run as a Republican is the same as a wolf in sheep's clothing. To do so is dishonest and unfair to bona fide Republicans. If he wants to run as a Libertarian, I'll be more inclined to listen to what he has to say, though so far most of his positions are not ones I could support. Once again, I say, if you're a Libertarian run as one and quit posing as a Republican. Before I draw all Ron Paul supporter's wrath, this is only one person's opinion. If you want to know why I can't support him, thats an entirely different subject.

Well then email GW and ask him to resign. He's run as a Repub twice, spends like a Democrat, protects our borders like a Democrat, and generally governs like an idiot.

 

[Andy A]

Well then email GW and ask him to resign. He's run as a Repub twice, spends like a Democrat, protects our borders like a Democrat, and generally governs like an idiot.

Are you sure you didn't mean governs lile a Democrat since you corredtly used it everywhere else. And Sj, believe it or not, I agree with everthing in your post, particularly fiscal conservative, social liberal.

 

[Smiling JOe]

YouTube - RON PAUL EXPOSED (IN HIS OWN WORDS)

 

[ckhagen]

Over 6 million dollars raised yesterday. By over 56,000 individuals... not PACs and Corporations. That breaks the all-time record for one day fund raising set by John Kerry.

Btw, the Republican candidate with the highest fund raising numbers last quarter was Rudy with 11.3 million. Ron Paul is at over 18 million this quarter... quarterly numbers usually drop 25-50% in the 4th quarter. I can't wait until the FEC reports in January... can't wait.

 

[Andy A]

Over 6 million dollars raised yesterday. By over 56,000 individuals... not PACs and Corporations. That breaks the all-time record for one day fund raising set by John Kerry.

Btw, the Republican candidate with the highest fund raising numbers last quarter was Rudy with 11.3 million. Ron Paul is at over 18 million this quarter... quarterly numbers usually drop 25-50% in the 4th quarter. I can't wait until the FEC reports in January... can't wait.

Isn't it a shame we have progressed to the point where we are using how much money a candidate can raise as to what his qualifications for running for president are? I think Scooter's idea is probably a good one. Personally, I am disgusted with the whole bloomin' process.

 

[ckhagen]

Yes, it IS sad that we've come to that. The fundraising numbers were how the "top-tier" was decided by the media! They continue to use it as their litmus test of status. Unfortunately, if you look at the Top Contributors of Hillary, Obama, Rudy, and Mitt... all their money comes from the same places. From the banking industry. opensecrets.org... check it out. Compare. We've been sold these "top-tier" candidates based on corporate fund raising. Ron Paul is actually raising nearly all funds from individuals. They're sending it to him so that he has the money to buy the TV ads and the direct mail media to further name recognition. Without it, the large corporations and the media win.

 

[wrobert]

Over 6 million dollars raised yesterday. By over 56,000 individuals... not PACs and Corporations. That breaks the all-time record for one day fund raising set by John Kerry.

Btw, the Republican candidate with the highest fund raising numbers last quarter was Rudy with 11.3 million. Ron Paul is at over 18 million this quarter... quarterly numbers usually drop 25-50% in the 4th quarter. I can't wait until the FEC reports in January... can't wait.

Corporations are people too. If they all go Enron then where would we be? For everyone to constantly espouse the evils of corporations I imagine most just complete the proxy and turn it back in.

 

[ckhagen]

Corporations are people too. If they all go Enron then where would we be? For everyone to constantly espouse the evils of corporations I imagine most just complete the proxy and turn it back in.

But when they're placing so much value in the media on the amount of funds, corporations will always win. And why do the "top-tier" candidates all receive large sums of money from the same people (JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, etc...)? If their policies are so different (we're talking about DEMs and REPs), then why are these firms giving them all such large sums?

The fund raising numbers (large ones) fool the general public into thinking there are many, many individual votes behind certain candidates. The emphasis on the numbers creates this. It allows big business to have more influence than I think it should have.

A $200,000 donation from Morgan Stanley should not send the message to the media and then the public, that someone is qualified for the job.

 

[Smiling JOe]

many large corporations (I want to say "most"), give money to any candidate who they think has a shot in hell chance of winning. They like to remind all politicians that the corporation contributed to their campaign. I wonder if BeachSiO2's Christmas card is still at the top of his politician's tree. lol.