Sanctuary at Redfish

[SHELLY]

It's nice to know you all got my back! Apparently I won't get arrested if I quietly pack up my stuff and high tail it back to the Redfish Water Taxi if I'm politely asked to do so by the sheriff. That's according to the Sheriff that my brother-in-law talked to this afternoon. He was also told that they definitely don't come looking for trespassers. Well, I don't really want to take those chances. It's too bad because the property at Redfish is beautiful. I doubt with these issues they'll be selling many units for the millions they're looking for. So now I have to get our deposit back and get looking for something else. If anyone's got suggestions, we're a family of 7, preferring a 3 or 4 bdrm., with beach access and nice pool. Don't hesitate to pm me. Thanks again for the warnings.

Ya know KB...for the record, I just want you to know I think the hoops you have to jump through to ensure you can enjoy the beaches in our area just sucks out loud! I regret the problems you're dealing with trying to find a place to vacation--it didn't used to be this way. I wish you the best of luck finding a perfect place by the beach where you feel "welcome"...even if it isn't here.

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[scooterbug44]

Your vacation paradise IS still here, there are just some rotten apples spoiling the barrel so you have to be a little more informed when booking.

I personally plan on a long happy summer of dry sand beach time sans handcuffs and sheriff's deputies.

 

[BlueMtnBeachVagrant]

Ya know KB...for the record, I just want you to know I think the hoops you have to jump through to ensure you can enjoy the beaches in our area just sucks out loud! I regret the problems you're dealing with trying to find a place to vacation--it didn't used to be this way. I wish you the best of luck finding a perfect place by the beach where you feel "welcome"...even if it isn't here.

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Now that's a statement I can fully agree with.

Before the RFVs stampeding in and around private residential areas, before the Sanctuary at Redfishes with no direct beach accesses, before the (almost) Nature Walks with their 100's of homes north of 30A, before the Seasides vs WaterColors, before the Rosemary Beaches vs everyone else, and especially the very large Village at Blue Mountain Beach north of 30A using (and claiming beach access) via the infamous beach access to nowhere next to the Retreat and the Inn at BMB, on and on......

Shelly, you are right.

I can't imagine what changed.

More people maybe?

Needless adverse reactions from those against gulf front owners protecting their property?

Oh, could it possibly be private property owners are just sick of those who feel automatically entitled to the beach because of the Daytona court case and their rediculous analogy of that long established overcrowded commercially obscene area known as the boardwalk and pier with our area (that I use to frequent and drive upon as a teenager)?

[edit: Keep in mind that the people who owned the beach in Daytona directly profitted by attracting the public. The more people they could get to walk on their beach, the more likely they would spend money at their establishment. I think there's a HUGE difference between that and let's say Blue Mountain Beach or anywhere else in Walton County.]

The developers slip these huge developments here in Walton County through planning and the BCC with no regard to who truly has rights to the (private) beaches. All private property rights be damned.

TDC's goal is to increase tourism. They have succeeded to a degree. Now they are beginning to run into a brick wall. TDC finaly (at least) acknowledged on their website that there are private beaches after the notorious arrests that were made.

Renourishment is their ONLY salvation....not for the beach's sake as one would logically think but for everyone else who needs INCREASED tourism to make a living (or their fortune). Steady-state does not seem to be an option.

Maybe, just maybe, Kim can see that there are two sides to every story. I'm one of the few speaking up for the other side as unpopular as it may be in mainstream.


FWIW, can't Kim take the boat across the lake and walk EAST a bit (away from BMB)? Will the development next door also run one off?

As far as going WEST a tad, are we saying that the huge house at the end of Blue Mtn Road will run people off the beach there as well? Where in the heck is the north south property line where a dune lake is located?

 

[kimbug]

Ya know KB...for the record, I just want you to know I think the hoops you have to jump through to ensure you can enjoy the beaches in our area just sucks out loud! I regret the problems you're dealing with trying to find a place to vacation--it didn't used to be this way. I wish you the best of luck finding a perfect place by the beach where you feel "welcome"...even if it isn't here.

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Thank you. I'm sure I'll find a place. But just so you all know, I've always felt welcome while visiting sowal (well, maybe there are a few snobs in locations I won't mention) so I'd never want to stay at a place that could potentially spoil that. Our visit there will be grayt; I've never known it not to be!

 

[Smiling JOe]

Ya know KB...for the record, I just want you to know I think the hoops you have to jump through to ensure you can enjoy the beaches in our area just sucks out loud! I regret the problems you're dealing with trying to find a place to vacation--it didn't used to be this way. I wish you the best of luck finding a perfect place by the beach where you feel "welcome"...even if it isn't here.

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Ditto!

Kimbug, I wouldn't want the potential hassle of being ran off the beach by the cops, either. It is a shame that people now try to claim something that has been used by the general public for decades. As more vacationers avoid the hassles, the property owners slowly gain a little ground.

 

[luvthebeach57]

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, we were considering staying at the Sanctuary at Redfish this summer like kimbug. However, the whole issue of beach access has me worried. Therefore, we will be staying at WaterSound instead. They have a whole mile of beach there. WaterSound has all the amenities, but none of the hassles of getting to the beach. I think it's a real shame that some homeowners feel they have a right to "own" the beach. As I mentioned previously, I've vacationed at beaches all over the US (including the Caribbean and Hawaii). I have never encountered any problems with private beaches before.

 

[scooterbug44]

AI've vacationed at beaches all over the US (including the Caribbean and Hawaii). I have never encountered any problems with private beaches before.

It's a recent issue for us too! :roll:

 

[Smiling JOe]

Again, I reiterate, the owners in Blue Mtn Beach S/D have not erected "Private Beach" signs. Thus far, they have only filed a deed for the property, which will give them grounds for the next steps, which COULD be, erecting signs and calling the police.

 

[Pirate]

Now that's a statement I can fully agree with.

Before the RFVs stampeding in and around private residential areas, before the Sanctuary at Redfishes with no direct beach accesses, before the (almost) Nature Walks with their 100's of homes north of 30A, before the Seasides vs WaterColors, before the Rosemary Beaches vs everyone else, and especially the very large Village at Blue Mountain Beach north of 30A using (and claiming beach access) via the infamous beach access to nowhere next to the Retreat and the Inn at BMB, on and on......

Shelly, you are right.

I can't imagine what changed.

More people maybe?

Needless adverse reactions from those against gulf front owners protecting their property?

Oh, could it possibly be private property owners are just sick of those who feel automatically entitled to the beach because of the Daytona court case and their rediculous analogy of that long established overcrowded commercially obscene area known as the boardwalk and pier with our area (that I use to frequent and drive upon as a teenager)?

[edit: Keep in mind that the people who owned the beach in Daytona directly profitted by attracting the public. The more people they could get to walk on their beach, the more likely they would spend money at their establishment. I think there's a HUGE difference between that and let's say Blue Mountain Beach or anywhere else in Walton County.]

The developers slip these huge developments here in Walton County through planning and the BCC with no regard to who truly has rights to the (private) beaches. All private property rights be damned.

TDC's goal is to increase tourism. They have succeeded to a degree. Now they are beginning to run into a brick wall. TDC finaly (at least) acknowledged on their website that there are private beaches after the notorious arrests that were made.

Renourishment is their ONLY salvation....not for the beach's sake as one would logically think but for everyone else who needs INCREASED tourism to make a living (or their fortune). Steady-state does not seem to be an option.

Maybe, just maybe, Kim can see that there are two sides to every story. I'm one of the few speaking up for the other side as unpopular as it may be in mainstream.


FWIW, can't Kim take the boat across the lake and walk EAST a bit (away from BMB)? Will the development next door also run one off?

As far as going WEST a tad, are we saying that the huge house at the end of Blue Mtn Road will run people off the beach there as well? Where in the heck is the north south property line where a dune lake is located?

Tear down all the condos and revert to SFH. That will keep the riff-raff out.

 

[BlueMtnBeachVagrant]

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, we were considering staying at the Sanctuary at Redfish this summer like kimbug. However, the whole issue of beach access has me worried. Therefore, we will be staying at WaterSound instead. They have a whole mile of beach there. WaterSound has all the amenities, but none of the hassles of getting to the beach. I think it's a real shame that some homeowners feel they have a right to "own" the beach. As I mentioned previously, I've vacationed at beaches all over the US (including the Caribbean and Hawaii). I have never encountered any problems with private beaches before.

Is the WaterSound beach area where you will be staying private? Assuming yes, then aren't you being a bit hypocritical?