New big blue signs in SoWal

[wrobert]

of course not. some change their positions as more data is presented to them, some change purely for gain. if the shoe fits...

And how do you decide which is which?

I also thought that this was a losing battle. But I had totally missed the political element to the whole thing. Very unlike me. I must have been asleep at the wheel this time. If I had thought of those factors, I would have seen that without a doubt the signs would be changing.

IMO, you are seeing the difference between politicians and statesman. Politicians easily bend to public pressure when they see how it affects them personally, Statesmen commit to something, articulate why they are committed to that thought, and then stick with it no matter the consequences. This country was founded by Statesmen. It is being ran today by politicians. I strive to be the former, rather than the latter.

 

[TooFarTampa]

I am just now catching up ... wow, great job everyone. Thanks Dave and Claire and all who made an effort on this issue.


Great NWFDN link, thanks MissCritter!

Great job to everyone who took this fight seriously and fought it with pride, dignity and restraint. You guys know where to find us if you need help with design and Mr. Chickpea and I wll be more than happy to aid.
And it was great seeing so many people there yesterday!!

 

[John R]

And how do you decide which is which?

I didn't, I asked a question.

I also thought that this was a losing battle. But I had totally missed the political element to the whole thing. Very unlike me. I must have been asleep at the wheel this time. If I had thought of those factors, I would have seen that without a doubt the signs would be changing.

I never thought so. And it appeared that the other poster was pretty set in his/her position also. It could have been sarcasm, but no way to tell over the internet.

IMO, you are seeing the difference between politicians and statesman. Politicians easily bend to public pressure when they see how it affects them personally, Statesmen commit to something, articulate why they are committed to that thought, and then stick with it no matter the consequences. This country was founded by Statesmen. It is being ran today by politicians. I strive to be the former, rather than the latter.

Good luck in that endeavor. We need leaders that are strong and have the best interest of the electorate in their agenda, seemingly in short supply currently. The other poster made no indication as to their change of view, and it seemed a little out of place based on prior posts. ymmv.

 

[DuneLaker]

I think it is a waste of tax payers money to take them down now. Bed tax or what ever tax it's still tax money we are wasting, where is the taxpayers association when we need them. one day we will wake up and regret it.

Northender. The taxpayers from all over Walton County who worked to get those signs taken down are working to preserve the tax base that supports the entire county. There seems to be some other uses that can be worked out. I'm sure if these same signs had popped up around Lake DeFuniak, Circle Drive and the historic district giving tourists directional information about all the historic houses and buildings, that a similar protest would have occurred. These signs devalue 30A just as they would devalue the historic district in DeFuniak. The new Scenic 30A designation needs thoughtful care and preservation just as much as any other beautiful and historic place in Walton County. The entire county is a treasure trove of historic places. Any signs in both places should be mindful of the beautiful and historic places they represent. But, and happy posting.

 

[Dave Rauschkolb]

Northender. The taxpayers from all over Walton County who worked to get those signs taken down are working to preserve the tax base that supports the entire county. There seems to be some other uses that can be worked out. I'm sure if these same signs had popped up around Lake DeFuniak, Circle Drive and the historic district giving tourists directional information about all the historic houses and buildings, that a similar protest would have occurred. These signs devalue 30A just as they would devalue the historic district in DeFuniak. The new Scenic 30A designation needs thoughtful care and preservation just as much as any other beautiful and historic place in Walton County. The entire county is a treasure trove of historic places. Any signs in both places should be mindful of the beautiful and historic places they represent. But, and happy posting.

Amen DuneLaker.

 

[RebelRider]

Have you ever been wrong in your evaluation of a group's determination and commitment to follow through ? I have and when I am I plant my feet firmly on the ground and stand ready for the hoots and hollers of those who were right.

My earlier post was very clear in my congratulations to the group of dedicated people. I attended all three of the public meetings where Scenic Pride was seeking the "Big Ugly Signs" removal. I openly admit that my initial evaluation was a negative evaluation. I openly admit that the group made tremendous gains between the 1st TDC meeting and the Workshop. It seems people with expertise were brought into the group or allowed to display their talents. Job well done ! Was I wrong - yep ! and I admit it.

The second part of my post revealed some insight into the political maneuvers that I think were very apparent. You may disagree and on that we will disagree. The politicians were at work just as hard behind the scenes to find a solution while maintaining their electibility in the future.

The third part of the post dealt with my past experiences in matters such as this. Don't pop the cork out of the bottle to early. I distinctly remember George W flying onto an aircraft carrier and declaring the victory and job complete. That was over 5 years ago and guess what - we are still there ! You never, never underestimate the oposition. When you strike at the "King" you had better make sure you eliminate him.

Have a great day ! I will be there on April 22 to see you complete what has been started.

Thats a statesman's answer - not a politicians spin !

 

[Matt J]

The following links are to videos taken the day of the meeting.

The first video is of the meeting itself. Sorry for the audio you may have to turn it up.

http://www.sowaltv.com/play.php?vid=93

The second video is an interview with Dave regarding the signs.

http://www.sowaltv.com/play.php?vid=89

 

[RebelRider]

I am hearing of a great dividing issue within the leadership of the "Scenic Pride Initiative" corcerning the road forward. A great debate over how to proceeed at this time is currently underway.

The removal of the signs is only a part of this issue. Without a realization of the core issue behind the signs - "a lack of consideration of the historic nature of the corridor"- and respect for coordination with all parties - then the core issue will just simply resurface itself is some other manner.

Is it a win if you simply "buy out" your opponent?

"Lions for Lambs"

 

[Rita]

I am hearing of a great dividing issue within the leadership of the "Scenic Pride Initiative" corcerning the road forward. A great debate over how to proceeed at this time is currently underway.

The removal of the signs is only a part of this issue. Without a realization of the core issue behind the signs - "a lack of consideration of the historic nature of the corridor"- and respect for coordination with all parties - then the core issue will just simply resurface itself is some other manner.

Is it a win if you simply "buy out" your opponent?

"Lions for Lambs"

Hmmmm .... this sounds rather dramatic! :roll:


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[GoodWitch58]

And how do you decide which is which?

I also thought that this was a losing battle. But I had totally missed the political element to the whole thing. Very unlike me. I must have been asleep at the wheel this time. If I had thought of those factors, I would have seen that without a doubt the signs would be changing.

IMO, you are seeing the difference between politicians and statesman. Politicians easily bend to public pressure when they see how it affects them personally, Statesmen commit to something, articulate why they are committed to that thought, and then stick with it no matter the consequences. This country was founded by Statesmen. It is being ran today by politicians. I strive to be the former, rather than the latter.

And...LEADERS recognize a mistake when they've made one; admit to it; find an equitable solution; and move on. All the while listening to the will of the people to whom they are accountable.