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peapod1980

percy
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Skunky, I always assume the nail techs are talking about me! You sporting white tips these days, or what?
One of the things L'il Pea #1 figured out right away after he started taking French this year was--hey, mom, we can talk about things, and no one in the house will know what we're saying! I told him that's one of the beauties of learning a foreign language. Sometimes powers are used for evil. ;-) :lol:
 

Miss Kitty

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"We're in America...Right?"

Si. :wave:
 

destinscuba

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So would you also critize someone for using sign language in front of you???

You are assuming that she is a tourist. How to you NOT know that they know each other from outside of Joey's. Maybe they have kids on a soccer team together, Maybe she works with his spouse, Maybe they go to the Spanish language mass together. You never know.

Unless you spent a couple of months learning, I doubt you would know fluent Italian before you went. I spent a summer in Paris, I did learn enough to get by while I was there, and being there helped a lot with learning the language, but I was no where near fluent.

OH and I couldn't let this go....

If i went to Italy and new fluent Italian, I wouldn't speak with the only Italian speaking American there in English. I would consider that RUDE.

I guess it skipped your mind to type fluent English in your post or are you typing AMERICAN.
 

LuciferSam

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LuciferSam... What an attitude... You sound like a person with a lot of penned up frustration...

I don't believe i said it pissed me off, therefore you ("if you knew more languages") can speak as many languages around me as you want, i would just consider you rude which you've made clear already...

Guess I'll just have to consider the source. :moon:
 

JOE who

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First and foremost, I’m sorry if my initial post offended any of you... I meant this to be a conversation, not an argument... I too agree that everyone is and should be allowed to speak their native tongue whenever they choose; it is what makes America, America. My original post obviously came across wrong (or maybe as a smart@$$). I made a statement that I thought it was rude, a lot like me eves dropping (ironically, both rude but also fun sometimes). I was simply wondering if other people felt the same way some-times, if not why. Some of you made great points to advance the conversation and my opinion; then again, some were quick to jump on the defensive for the sake of arguing... You wouldn't think people that live on the worlds most beautiful beaches would be so uptight... Geezzz

BTW Lucifer Sam... In an earlier post you said "people like you"... What kind of person do you think I am? I've made a very limited amount of post/responses on Sowal.com and from that you know who I am? I'm really not a bad person...


Have a great week!
 

peapod1980

percy
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First and foremost, I’m sorry if my initial post offended any of you... I meant this to be a conversation, not an argument
JOE, you initiated a lively debate and played a part in people looking at things a little differently (including yourself, I hope)--that's what message boards are all about! :clap:
 
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InletBchDweller

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First and foremost, I?m sorry if my initial post offended any of you... I meant this to be a conversation, not an argument... I too agree that everyone is and should be allowed to speak their native tongue whenever they choose; it is what makes America, America. My original post obviously came across wrong (or maybe as a smart@$$). I made a statement that I thought it was rude, a lot like me eves dropping (ironically, both rude but also fun sometimes). I was simply wondering if other people felt the same way some-times, if not why. Some of you made great points to advance the conversation and my opinion; then again, some were quick to jump on the defensive for the sake of arguing... You wouldn't think people that live on the worlds most beautiful beaches would be so uptight... Geezzz

BTW Lucifer Sam... In an earlier post you said "people like you"... What kind of person do you think I am? I've made a very limited amount of post/responses on Sowal.com and from that you know who I am? I'm really not a bad person...


Have a great week!

:wave:Did not offend me. I understand where you were coming from and the point you were trying to get across....:wave:
 

Miss Critter

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Joe, I think the bottom line is that the America of 2008 is not the America of 1958, or 1988 or '98 for that matter. For better and for worse, depending upon your perspective. I think much of what we remember with nostalgia about everyone being "of one heart" or "on the same team" was partly fear of being perceived as different, partly limited exposure to other cultures and attitudes through a filtered media. Also, change happened at a much slower pace back then. We had more time to assimilate change in little baby steps. Now it comes at us like a tsunami, or should I say like a fire hose; it's non-stop. Those of us in our 40's and older remember that slower pace (and long for it sometimes, certainly). The younger generations just accept it as reality. How things will shake out in the future, I don't know. But I do know that we need to start seeing each other as more the same than different, something I believe Americans do better than anyone else. And yes, I do share your sentiment about foreign language conversations sometimes. I only speak one language (I'm trying to learn "teenager" which consists mostly of grunts; making little progress :D), and have not traveled overseas, but imagine that if I were in a foreign country and ran into a fellow American, my English would be going a mile a minute.

Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor, a brilliant Harvard neuroanatomist who had a stroke and lost the function of the left side of her brain (the ego side) for a time, wrote a book about the experience titled "My Stroke of Insight." A video of one of her presentations is somewhere on this site. Maybe someone can link for us. Anyway, she contends that we are all alike in 99.99% of our humanity. It's that one hundredth of one percent that causes all the mess we see in the world. Amazing, isn't it? I try to remind myself of that when I'm bothered by others' differences. Not there yet, but some days I see a teeny bit of progress. :blush:

And on this day, especially, I am sad that wars had to be fought for us to enjoy this freedom, and am deeply grateful for those who were courageous enough to do it.
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