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organicmama

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The biggest rebel flag I've ever seen used to hang from a frat house at UGA. It was flat out obnoxious. Of course, the greeks are very segregated at UGA and it started a whole diversity peer education program, which I got to be a part of and it was one of the greatest learning experiences of my life, besides being a parent.

Back to the flag.... It used to piss me off. We all had the rebel flag floats as kids. I didn't know the difference. All I knew was Bo & Luke Duke regarding the flag. When I started "changing" & having multicultural friends, my dad got very angry. Long story short, the rebel flag crap my brother had was cool in our home & my yin-yang t-shirts about multiculturalism weren't. Nor was the fact that I was a vegetarian, hippie, promoting diversity on a predominately white campus....:dunno::D

Today, the flag doesn't really bother me. I can take it with a grain of salt. The attitudes behind the flag, be them just normal people or people that hate others, makes all the difference. You don't have to carry a rebel flag to have a closed mind, nor do all those that have the flag have a closed mind, either.

The only bumper sticker that blew me away a couple of weeks ago was one that said in red, white and blue:
WORK
A white man's value

That one got me. I wanted to pull over and slap the dude driving the truck that had it in it's back window. But then I saw he was a little old guy and I think his buddy sitting next to him in his little truck wasn't white. If he was, he was the tannest white guy I've ever seen in my life. It ended up cracking me up at the same time.​

Honestly, to me, making a big deal about the flag only gives the drama behind it some steam. Live & let live is my motto, which is why I have bumper stickers but not ones that deal with religion, politics or race issues on our cars. I don't want some road raged idiot to shoot my butt because I posted those opinions on the outside of my vehicles.​
 
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Teresa

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Today, the flag doesn't really bother me. I can take it with a grain of salt. The attitudes behind the flag, be them just normal people or people that hate others, makes all the difference. You don't have to carry a rebel flag to have a closed mind, nor do all those that have the flag have a closed mind, either.

Honestly, to me, making a big deal about the flag only gives the drama behind it some steam. Live & let live is my motto,...​

OM - as usual, you have put my exact feelings on the issue into perfect words. thanks.

I do not like the flag hanging publicly as big as you please, but if it makes people happy, well then, fine. I realize it has historical meaning but it has other meanings and uses as well that have nothing to do with anything good, imo. also I know for a fact that at least half the southern rednecks who put in on their trucks have not one clue about what it means. its just a good ole boy symbol for them. and I really do not like what my mind automatically thinks about a person when they do fly it.. my own pre-conceived notions about that person are not right. in fact, they are very specific and narrow. so, I am the one who needs to do better, not them.

bottom line. fly it if you like it.
 
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CPort

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I pretty much agree with the last 2 post. Most of the kids that ride around with it on the back window probably couldn't tell you 2 correct points about the flag. This flag only flew 4 or 5 years out of our 225+years as a young nation.
It is a part of the southern states' (that succeeded from the union )history .But that's exactly what it is history!
One reason so many people hang on to cival war history here in ms is we have so many battle grounds and they aren't all parks so the history is there for the digging (with landowners permission)I personally have sold a CSA belt buckel that was off a dress uniform for quite a bit,but I wish I hadn't let it go.It was dug in the median of theI 20 on a Sunday picnic and diggging adventure.
just my 2 cents
 

Jdarg

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OM - as usual, you have put my exact feelings on the issue into perfect words. thanks.

I do not like the flag hanging publicly as big as you please, but if it makes people happy, well then, fine. I realize it has historical meaning but it has other meanings and uses as well that have nothing to do with anything good, imo. also I know for a fact that at least half the southern rednecks who put in on their trucks have not one clue about what it means. its just a good ole boy symbol for them. and I really do not like what my mind automatically thinks about a person when they do fly it.. my own pre-conceived notions about that person are not right. in fact, they are very specific and narrow. so, I am the one who needs to do better, not them.

bottom line. fly it if you like it.

And this last line says everything about the person that does fly it.
 

Teresa

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And this last line says everything about the person that does fly it.

well, maybe. I'm trying not to make that judgement, remember? I really don't know what it says about a person. I may think I know. the word racist may flicker across my brain in big bold letters - all caps. I would be wrong in making that assumption, at least in many cases. I would be just as narrow in my thinking as I say they are, or worse... confederate flag flyers have many reasons, including the fact that it represents pride in their southern heritage. it may mean something very good to them. In fact, my thinking, after hearing from so many on this board, is that it is rarely used to symbolize anything else.. I am glad to come to understand this subject better.:wave: not that I am ordering a flag anytime soon. what would be cool to see is an obama08 sticker on a truck with the conf flag. I would have to take a picture and post it here.
 

InletBchDweller

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No, but Minnesota isn't exactly dixie either. I was just saying that if your flying it that far north your probably not doing it for heritage reasons.
ok, thanks

No, but there are MANY who unfortunately choose to display it for those reasons, so my first thought when I see that flag isn't that someone is full of pride, but hatred.
well dont judge a book by its cover.

I have seen some bumper stickers lately that dont have the "flag" on it but they make me think "dumb @ss" or something else. From reading the last few posts on this board I now know that I need to just get over it and let them stick what they want- be it rebel flag, a peace sign, W sticker, a village in Texas is missing their idiot, and so on and so forth. :wave:
 

Bob

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i'm thinking all our postings and rantings are cyber-bumper stickers....dude!
 

Rudyjohn

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So there are those who still equate the Confederate flag with bigotry, prejudice, & hatred? I thought that mindset was long gone. Seriously.
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