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PeterFrohwein

Beach Lover
Aug 29, 2007
92
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Input from a South Walton Lifeguard.

I just want to say thank you for all the appreciation and support of locals and
Visiting tourists who thank us on a daily basis for the work we do as lifeguards.
We put our lives on the line everyday to keep people on the beach safe.

Most days are noneventful (thank God.) Today was not one of those days.
Today was suppost to be my day off. (Gods day.) I was call in to help out
because of the double red conditions. As I arrived at the Tower the flags were
being changed from red to double red. Double red flag days are NEVER fun days
to work. When we go to double red flags, one of the first things we do is get everyone out of the water. (Or at least that is the plan.) We move down the
beach in each direction, east and west of the tower asking/telling people to get
out of the water. Most people are very grateful for the warning and clear the water.

A very small percentage of people do not want to cooperate. This small
percentage make our work very difficult and sometimes dangerous. They get
out of the water when we ask them to, but when we are 100 yards down the beach
they jump right back in !!! They are putting their lives in danger and they are
also putting the lifeguards in danger by there actions. Adults who do this are
setting a VERY bad example for children and other adults who watch them blow off the lifeguards.

We are trying to keep them alive and they want to argue with us !!!!

Double Red means the water is closed. No discussion. No negotiations. No arguing. I had to ask one family of 4 (2 adults and 2 children)
5 times to get out of the water ! They would get out and get right back in when I
was back at the tower. One kid shot me a bird and yelled at me when
I ask him to get out of the water!

One major problem that I see with the way this currently works, is we (the lifeguards) have no enforcement powers.
If someone wants to ignore us we have to call the sheriff’s office and have them send out a deputy to get them out of the water and give them a ticket. Lifeguards need limited enforcement powers to be able to give out tickets. And the fines need to be substantial; $300 to $500 per person/per incident. How much is life worth?

PS: The lifeguard program always needs more money and these fines would help the program greatly.
 
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30A Skunkape

Skunky
Jan 18, 2006
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2,349
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Backatown Seagrove
I just want to say thank you for all the appreciation and support of locals and
Visiting tourists who thank us on a daily basis for the work we do as lifeguards.
We put our lives on the line everyday to keep people on the beach safe.

Most days are noneventful (thank God.) Today was not one of those days.
Today was suppost to be my day off. (Gods day.) I was call in to help out
because of the double red conditions. As I arrived at the Tower the flags were
being changed from red to double red. Double red flag days are NEVER fun days
to work. When we go to double red flags, one of the first things we do is get everyone out of the water. (Or at least that is the plan.) We move down the
beach in each direction, east and west of the tower asking/telling people to get
out of the water. Most people are very grateful for the warning and clear the water.

A very small percentage of people do not want to cooperate. This small
percentage make our work very difficult and sometimes dangerous. They get
out of the water when we ask them to, but when we are 100 yards down the beach
they jump right back in !!! They are putting their lives in danger and they are
also putting the lifeguards in danger by there actions. Adults who do this are
setting a VERY bad example for children and other adults who watch them blow off the lifeguards.

We are trying to keep them alive and they want to argue with us !!!!

Double Red means the water is closed. No discussion. No negotiations. No arguing. I had to ask one family of 4 (2 adults and 2 children)
5 times to get out of the water ! They would get out and get right back in when I
was back at the tower. One kid shot me a bird and yelled at me when
I ask him to get out of the water!

One major problem that I see with the way this currently works, is we (the lifeguards) have no enforcement powers.
If someone wants to ignore us we have to call the sheriff?s office and have them send out a deputy to get them out of the water and give them a ticket. Lifeguards need limited enforcement powers to be able to give out tickets. And the fines need to be substantial; $300 to $500 per person/per incident. How much is life worth?

Peter-maybe your crew could employ the famous (but I am not sure if true) technique of handing out a toe (or wrist) tag with their name written in sharpie so as to easily identify them once their cold, lifeless carcass is fished out of the water. That might get through their cranium.
 

Miss Kitty

Meow
Jun 10, 2005
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Peter-maybe your crew could employ the famous (but I am not sure if true) technique of handing out a toe (or wrist) tag with their name written in sharpie so as to easily identify them once their cold, lifeless carcass is fished out of the water. That might get through their cranium.

Save the paper...just write it on their arm. Peter...I just shake my head when I read these stories. This is like risking the lifeguards life for premeditated idiocy. Thank you and your crew for what you do. What needs to be done to give lifeguards that power? I think we should help!
 

luvthebeach57

Beach Lover
Feb 11, 2008
71
1
Columbia, MD
I really appreciate hearing from one of the lifeguards on this issue. We arrived at Watersound on Saturday. On Sunday, we started out with red flags, until the early afternoon, when they changed to double red flags. The lifeguards drove down the beach asking everyone to get out of the water. Everyone complied and I only saw one man get back in the water afterwards. We were very disappointed that we couldn't go swimming, but we respect the flag system and understand it's for our own safety. I heard on the Panama City TV station last night that two people drowned on Sunday who ignored the double-red flags.

We're hoping we might be able to go swimming in the gulf today, but sitting here on our balcony this morning, I see double-red flags at the beach again. Thankfully, Watersound has an absolutely gorgeous swimming pool at the beach club. We spent a few hours there yesterday. It's a lovely free-form pool with very attractive landscaping complete with cabanas and pool-side beverage service.
 

ohmom

Beach Lover
Aug 2, 2008
77
9
fairfield, ohio
Peter, thank you for your dedication to the safety of others. Human behavior is often inexplicable. You do all you can and more than your work responsibilities require.
Bless you for that! It frightens/frustrates/angers me that the stupidity and stubbornness of others adds more risk to you.
My sarcastic streak would want to ask those who go in after your warnings "Could I have the phone number of your next of kin so I can notify them if you drown?" I know you can't say that, but it does seem a practical question.
 

NotDeadYet

Beach Fanatic
Jul 7, 2007
1,416
489
Very interesting NYT article on jellyfish, thanks for the link.
I had felt that, since last year, the jellies were more numerous and hanging around a lot longer. It is my recollection that in years past, they would show up for a week or so in August and be rarely seen the rest of the summer. Then in Oct the big round ones would likewise show up for a week or two, and then be gone. In the winter came the cannonballs, and in the spring the man'o'wars. Last summer we had jellies about all summer, and again this summer, and this summer, I really think they are bigger. :eek:
And no one yet has been able to identify the blue ones that don't sting. I never saw those here before this summer.
 

30A Skunkape

Skunky
Jan 18, 2006
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Backatown Seagrove
Very interesting NYT article on jellyfish, thanks for the link.
I had felt that, since last year, the jellies were more numerous and hanging around a lot longer. It is my recollection that in years past, they would show up for a week or so in August and be rarely seen the rest of the summer. Then in Oct the big round ones would likewise show up for a week or two, and then be gone. In the winter came the cannonballs, and in the spring the man'o'wars. Last summer we had jellies about all summer, and again this summer, and this summer, I really think they are bigger. :eek:
And no one yet has been able to identify the blue ones that don't sting. I never saw those here before this summer.

Blue buttons?
 
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