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Miss Kitty

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elgordoboy

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Feb 9, 2007
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I no longer stay in Dune Allen

tofu

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Dec 2, 2007
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Have a friend in NYC..daughter was called for a A/F shoot at 11. It was for the kids store...they were also interested in her for the main store ad. :shock:

I hear ya', but 12 and 13 are not what 12 and 13 was when I grew up.

:yikes::lol:
 

rapunzel

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Nov 30, 2005
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If everyone else's answer is like mine, why the hell do we have parties? Why shouldn't we be deciding who the top seven Presidential Candidates are, voting, then having a run-off between the top-two finishers, rather than focusing on Party PoliTRICKS?

It's time for a rant. I'm so sick of poliTRICKS being used as if it were a word, or even a witty concept. It's pure cynicism, and nothing is more lazy than cynicism. It's a self-congratulatory pat on the back for those who want to feel intellectually superior to those who work for change within the system.

We have parties to prevent travesties like Cecelia Jones being elected to represent a district she doesn't live in. If you have every fringe group forming it's own party, you end up with a coalition government that is not very stable and makes economic progress more difficult. The parties are democratic, and they change and adapt with the times. Republicans today are the party of Lincoln in name only, and Democrats are no longer the left wing liberals that once defined the party. The parties adapt to the times. They offer a balance to each other, without fragmenting the electorate to the point of producing a stagnant, do-nothing government. Parties developed out of a need for organization and structure in the legislature, they are a strength of American government when the work.

When they are broken, you get dysfunctional government. When people blindly follow one party or another, you get dysfunctional government. When you don't work within a party to make them better, to represent you -- you spin your wheels.


?Life is not an easy matter... You cannot live through it without falling into frustration and cynicism unless you have before you a great idea which raises you above personal misery, above weakness, above all kinds of perfidy and baseness.? Leon Trotsky

?Cynicism is intellectual dandyism? George Meredith

?What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.? Oscar Wilde
 

Miss Kitty

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Good post, punz. However, if your cynicism makes you uncomfortable enough, it might just make you look inside yourself and find out why your stuck.
 

Smiling JOe

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Yuck and right on! Of course, kids have been trying to dress contrary to their parents wishes for ages. Much of what I have seen and still see is the parents dressing like thier teenagers. It's a bunch of that be a best friend and not a parent thing. I can't get over that in this sexed up society, there are still parents that don't ever talk to their kids about sex!!!! :angry: Even with the best talking and modeling, some kids are just going to experiment with sex and alcohol. etc. For those kids that are not getting anything at home and because you have to pound this info into them multiple times, TEACH THIS IN SCHOOL! Sex ed should also be a part of any alcohol/drug education!
I'm not sexually liberal, nor do I smoke pot, but lately, I'm thinking about giving both a whirl.

Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but it seems like you are against having two major political parties against each other - yet, at the same time, against Democrats wanting a say in whom the Republicans choose as VP or vice versa. To me this seems like an oxymoron.
I think I did a terrible job of leading to my thoughts in the first post. Yes, the two are opposites. I'm not against everyone having a say in every party's choices, but the parties certainly don't want that. I, as an Independent, don't have a voice in the party choices. Personally, I've seen enough politics to know that it has become a dirty word.

Punzy, I understand your rant and respect your voice. I'm just tired of seeing less than stellar choices, and would rather have good candidates for the betterment of Americans, rather than partisan politics. In so many ways, I see nothing but political positioning on both sides of the (a)isle. I'm really not pleased with the Federal Govt of the USA. Regardless of what they tell you and the history of the two parties, each wants to spend more money, which means taking more away from the People.
 

tofu

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Dec 2, 2007
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Punzy, I understand your rant and respect your voice. I'm just tired of seeing less than stellar choices, and would rather have good candidates for the betterment of Americans, rather than partisan politics. In so many ways, I see nothing but political positioning on both sides of the (a)isle. I'm really not pleased with the Federal Govt of the USA. Regardless of what they tell you and the history of the two parties, each wants to spend more money, which means taking more away from the People.
Welcome to politics in general :rotfl:
 

Camp Creek Kid

Christini Zambini
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I'm just tired of seeing less than stellar choices, and would rather have good candidates for the betterment of Americans, rather than partisan politics. In so many ways, I see nothing but political positioning on both sides of the (a)isle. I'm really not pleased with the Federal Govt of the USA. Regardless of what they tell you and the history of the two parties, each wants to spend more money, which means taking more away from the People.

SJ, the system is perfect, although the people running it are not. You are not pleased with our government, but can you name a better government anywhere in the world? There is a reason that people from all over the world want to come here to stay. And there is a reason why those who constantly complain usually don't leave for good. There is a system of cheques and balances built into our government where no one branch can have ultimate power. You are a member of the most important branch of government and that is that of the American people--the voters, the tax payers, and the employers. Instead of getting frustrated, work to fix the problem. We do have power. In fact, I've heard of a young woman from Alaska who joined the P.T.A. to make a difference in the education of her children . . . (And you wonder why "better" candidates don't run for office? Not everyone is up for a public lynching by the media).
 
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