Honest post here! The speeches given my those men were particularly venomous and kudos to your hubbie for recognizing this and rejecting this.
Disconnect....regarding the republican ticket
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Honest post here! The speeches given my those men were particularly venomous and kudos to your hubbie for recognizing this and rejecting this.
I have seen and feel your pain. Here is what I have gathered outside of sowal land. The people that would vote Republcian, no matter what, really liked her speech and delivery. When I asked them about the negative tone and the barbs that made me cringe, I got two kinds of response. A few agreed with her and feel that no one is holding Obama's feet to the fire, which made her negative comments justified. Some just called it politics as usual and that the VP was the bulldog in the race. I will be interested to see how Biden conducts himself going forward. From what I have seen so far, he is just a class act.
Here you go:
Tuesday, September 02, 2008
In an interview of Barack Obama last night, CNN's Anderson Cooper mentioned Sarah Palin's experience as a small-town mayor and as governor of Alaska. Obama, hewing to his campaign's talking points, ignored the governor part:
COOPER: And, Senator Obama, my final question — your — some of your Republican critics have said you don't have the experience to handle a situation like this. They in fact have said that Governor Palin has more executive experience, as mayor of a small town and as governor of a big state of Alaska. What's your response?
OBAMA: Well, you know, my understanding is, is that Governor Palin's town of Wasilla has, I think, 50 employees. We have got 2,500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe $12 million a year. You know, we have a budget of about three times that just for the month.
So, I think that our ability to manage large systems and to execute, I think, has been made clear over the last couple of years. And, certainly, in terms of the legislation that I passed just dealing with this issue post-Katrina of how we handle emergency management, the fact that many of my recommendations were adopted and are being put in place as we speak, I think, indicates the degree to which we can provide the kinds of support and good service that the American people expect.
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Just for the record, Alaska's FY2008 operating budget is $11.2 billion, and the state employs approximately 15,000 people. Those certainly aren't huge numbers in federal terms, but they're a good bit bigger than the Obama campaign.
Yeah, I am having the same experience. My puzzlement is that I always thought McCain a decent person, a true hero, and an effective Senator. I certainly have not always agreed with his policies,..but, for the most part, I understood them.
I know why I am a Democrat and given the choice to vote for a Democrat or a Republican I have almost always chosen to vote D...however, I felt I could be satisfied with McCain...he is enough of a maverick to diminish my concerns with the policies and products of the last 8 years, except for the war. I would be a reluctant, but not terribly concerned citizen if he won the election...at least he would be better than Bush and Cheney....until he selected Palin.
The only reason I can see him doing this is to energize the right wing, conservative base of the Party...who will bring the neo-cons and the Bush supporters into his campaign. This is a grave concern to me.
And, then Palin was so vicious...I can not relate to that and I wanted to know why other people( Republican) whom I feel to be rational, thinking people, were so taken with her...I have yet to get an answer.
...and yes, Joe Biden is a class act IMO.
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This is how it works.
Some people don't understand how politics in America work. If Obama fails to even acknowledge Palin being a sitting governor, this is just cute. However, if Palin questions whether being a community activist qualifies one for President, it is venomous. If Palin's personal life is treated like tabloid fodder, that's fine, but if anyone asks Obama for any specifics as to how he will make every-one's dreams come true, that is mean-spirited.
If Clarence Thomas is accused by one person of sexual harassment, there are calls from the feminists for him to resign. If President Clinton harasses many women, and is accused of rape ( Juanita Broderick), it is his personal business and a conspiracy. It is O.K. to smear these women. Anita Hill however should be respected.
If a Republican said that a career woman should stay at home with her children, he is a neanderthal. Questioning Palin's motherly instincts because she has many children and is not barefoot at home with them is fair game. Teddy Roosevelt is to be admired for having many children while President, but progressive women who are democrats have abruptly become Stepford wives to suit their means.
When a democrat chooses a minority as a running mate, it is because they are being inclusive. A republican making that choice is pandering, and it is an insult to anyone with intelligence.
I have a few hundred other examples, but time to get back to work.
Some people don't understand how politics in America work. If Obama fails to even acknowledge Palin being a sitting governor, this is just cute. However, if Palin questions whether being a community activist qualifies one for President, it is venomous. If Palin's personal life is treated like tabloid fodder, that's fine, but if anyone asks Obama for any specifics as to how he will make every-one's dreams come true, that is mean-spirited.
If Clarence Thomas is accused by one person of sexual harassment, there are calls from the feminists for him to resign. If President Clinton harasses many women, and is accused of rape ( Juanita Broderick), it is his personal business and a conspiracy. It is O.K. to smear these women. Anita Hill however should be respected.
If a Republican said that a career woman should stay at home with her children, he is a neanderthal. Questioning Palin's motherly instincts because she has many children and is not barefoot at home with them is fair game. Teddy Roosevelt is to be admired for having many children while President, but progressive women who are democrats have abruptly become Stepford wives to suit their means.
When a democrat chooses a minority as a running mate, it is because they are being inclusive. A republican making that choice is pandering, and it is an insult to anyone with intelligence.
I have a few hundred other examples, but time to get back to work.
Thank you for explaining yourself.
Does there need to be another reason? The RWC's sealed the deal for Bush in the last election.
I really thought you got the answer you've been seeking a few days ago....
Honestly, I do think Palin was chosen to appease the right wing conservatives. IMO, they feel they have an unspoken agreement with Palin on the issues. As long as she is a Christian (one of us) and looks to God in all aspects of her decisions then all will be well and good. It's as simple as that.
Personally, I was more turned on by McCain's speech than Palin's. I lean right of center but I didn't care for the jabs at Obama or the air of arrogance. I was talking to Mr OL about the speech and just as Miss Kitty mentioned above, he said the VP's are just the bulldogs of the race....that's their job. I keep thinking about our current VP and past VP's and I'm not sure I've ever really given them much thought. I don't even know what they've done other than get shot and invent the internet.
I liked McCain in 2000 (though probably not enough to vote for him if he made it to the general). This time around, not so much. It's like he's sold his soul in order to be on top of the Republican ticket, and in the process stripped away so much of what I respected and admired about him first time around.
Would McCain in 2000 have added Karl Rove or South Carolina black baby guy to his campaign staff? I couldn't have seen that happening? Would he have sucked up to the fundamentalist wing of the party like he has now? He sure has backtracked from being the guy who stood up for what he believed and wouldn't work with
the bigots from Bob Jones University.
Thank you for explaining yourself.
Does there need to be another reason? The RWC's sealed the deal for Bush in the last election.
I really thought you got the answer you've been seeking a few days ago....
Honestly, I do think Palin was chosen to appease the right wing conservatives. IMO, they feel they have an unspoken agreement with Palin on the issues. As long as she is a Christian (one of us) and looks to God in all aspects of her decisions then all will be well and good. It's as simple as that.
Personally, I was more turned on by McCain's speech than Palin's. I lean right of center but I didn't care for the jabs at Obama or the air of arrogance. I was talking to Mr OL about the speech and just as Miss Kitty mentioned above, he said the VP's are just the bulldogs of the race....that's their job. I keep thinking about our current VP and past VP's and I'm not sure I've ever really given them much thought. I don't even know what they've done other than get shot and invent the internet.
I didn't give much thought to VPs either until Dick Cheney came along. Wow- did he ever set the bar high for future VP involvement!
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