Disconnect....regarding the republican ticket
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And remember vp deal is strange at best. JFK picked Johnson and he couldn't stand him.Thank you for explaining yourself.
Does there need to be another reason? The RWC's sealed the deal for Bush in the last election.
I really thought you got the answer you've been seeking a few days ago....
Honestly, I do think Palin was chosen to appease the right wing conservatives. IMO, they feel they have an unspoken agreement with Palin on the issues. As long as she is a Christian (one of us) and looks to God in all aspects of her decisions then all will be well and good. It's as simple as that.
Personally, I was more turned on by McCain's speech than Palin's. I lean right of center but I didn't care for the jabs at Obama or the air of arrogance. I was talking to Mr OL about the speech and just as Miss Kitty mentioned above, he said the VP's are just the bulldogs of the race....that's their job. I keep thinking about our current VP and past VP's and I'm not sure I've ever really given them much thought. I don't even know what they've done other than get shot and invent the internet.
I think I'm just right of center also.
I tried to rep you ,gotta wouldn't let me.
I think your observations are spot on OL!And as someone else said , Obama has chosen to attack the small time mayor, job,rather than the fact that she is the sitting governor of a state.
ANd just for my own info, What is a community organizer?? Has anyone ever seen one? None of the neighbors I 've lived in had one. Now I know what comes to mind when I hear community organizer,but it takes me back to the 60's and cival rights. They came and got folks to registar vote and made sure schools/workplaces were properly intergrated etc. Non of those isssues are issues around here any more.
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GW - you bring some good points here. I think many of us could accept McCain as president (even if we could not vote for him). even though I think he has had to sell a little of his soul to the far right in order to get real republican support. His Palin pick was a blow to me because it brings the Bush/evangelical ideology to the ticket as you stated. He needed to do this to appeal to the ultra conservatives and the right wing christian base. I do believe that many republicans who were not excited about McCain are now getting excited because of Palin.
what is there to like about this team? well, plenty if you are/were a Bush supporter. if you liked Bush you are probably going to love mccain/palin. you gotta admit, they are a lot more interesting than Dubya/Cheney.
I wish one Obama fan would put down their kool-aid and tell us why they wish for him to be President. All I hear from Democrats is how "mean" the Republicans are and how bad a mom Palin is. And you hear the old refrain that McCain is Bush III.
I must admit I am no great fan of Bush and have a love/hate view of McCain. But I do admire the fact that McCain had the courage to call our his fellow Republicans in the congress for their lack of vision and prpose and failed to here Obama even mildly call out his party for the do-nothing 110 Congress.
What I know about the candidates so far:
1. Obama wants to accept defeat in Iraq, McCain will make sure we leave winners,
2. Obama wants to raise capital gains taxes and McCain wants to lower business taxes which are the highest in the industrial world. Raising taxes on capital will kill the economy and throw thousands out of work,
3. Obama does not want to drill off-shore or develop more nuclear plants, McCain wants an "all the above" approach to energy.
4...Obama will appoint judical "legislators" while McCain will appoint strict constructionists.
That will do for now.
P.S. I am one who is energized by the Palin selection. Reasons; Washington outsider; cut spending instead of talking about it; Has a surplus which is a huge plus; Unafraid to take on coruption, even in her own party; energy hawk who favors independence from foreign oil; and she is not rich, is a parent, is middle class, comes from a small town with small town values. I think we have had enough of Washington/New York values.
I must admit I am no great fan of Bush and have a love/hate view of McCain. But I do admire the fact that McCain had the courage to call our his fellow Republicans in the congress for their lack of vision and prpose and failed to here Obama even mildly call out his party for the do-nothing 110 Congress.
What I know about the candidates so far:
1. Obama wants to accept defeat in Iraq, McCain will make sure we leave winners,
2. Obama wants to raise capital gains taxes and McCain wants to lower business taxes which are the highest in the industrial world. Raising taxes on capital will kill the economy and throw thousands out of work,
3. Obama does not want to drill off-shore or develop more nuclear plants, McCain wants an "all the above" approach to energy.
4...Obama will appoint judical "legislators" while McCain will appoint strict constructionists.
That will do for now.
P.S. I am one who is energized by the Palin selection. Reasons; Washington outsider; cut spending instead of talking about it; Has a surplus which is a huge plus; Unafraid to take on coruption, even in her own party; energy hawk who favors independence from foreign oil; and she is not rich, is a parent, is middle class, comes from a small town with small town values. I think we have had enough of Washington/New York values.
Looking at McCain, the first thought that comes to mind is "is this the best we can do". JMac looks like a 50 percent shot to keel over in office, and that leads me directly to Palin and the wisdom of that pandering choice. With Obama, it's all show and little go, he is short on much beyond academic accomplishment, between his Chicago buddies and his past church you have the makings of a carnival and his Senator-for life running mate looks to be the GM of a Toyota dealership. Our country is in a bad way!
Well, we didn't hear Obama mock Palin's resume in any way like the Republicans did all night long. He could have very well spoke about his degrees, one degree from Columbia in Political Science with a specialization in international relations, plus another degree from Harvard, in law. While there, he was president of the law review. Palin took Journalism in Idaho. Idaho.
He also didn't compare his many substantial legislative achievements and him vs. her as far as being a "Reformer". * Ethics Reform: Obama was the Senate's point person on ethics reform, and sponsored or co-sponsored the bills that made up what the Washington Post called "the strongest ethics legislation to emerge from Congress yet.
I can go on and on, but I don't think his answer was out of line vs. her calling him just a Community Organizer and the crowd yelling ZERO, in lieu of hearing on where she stands on issues.
He also didn't compare his many substantial legislative achievements and him vs. her as far as being a "Reformer". * Ethics Reform: Obama was the Senate's point person on ethics reform, and sponsored or co-sponsored the bills that made up what the Washington Post called "the strongest ethics legislation to emerge from Congress yet.
I can go on and on, but I don't think his answer was out of line vs. her calling him just a Community Organizer and the crowd yelling ZERO, in lieu of hearing on where she stands on issues.
Obama has plenty of surrogates in the media as well as people like Bill Maher to mock Palin for him.
And your mocking of a journalism degree from Idaho points out another reason why I like her. I am tired of ivy league elites running our government. (the last non-ivy league pres was Reagan.)Judging by how some of our media do their job they need a journalism degree.
Obama has plenty of surrogates in the media as well as people like Bill Maher to mock Palin for him.
Judging by how some of our media do their job they need a journalism degree.
I am not mocking Palin's education. Some of the most accomplished, and when I say accomplished, I also mean happy people, those who help others, live a respectable life, are non-degreed individuals with much common sense. I was simply pointing out that in contrast to the bashing Obama received at the RNC, his comment was not denigrating. IMHO.
But you were mocking the fact that she went to school in Idaho. Not cool.
