What hospital was Obama born in? Birth Certificate [merged]

[traderx]

Note to Leftists: this is not a vast right-wing conspiracy. This furor started with a lawsuit filed in Pennsylvannia by a high-ranking Democrat who had supported Hillary Clinton. Yes, Snopes and factcheck.org have both cleared Obama of all charges on this. They have seen the his birth certificate and declared him to be a natural born American. Inasfar as I know, the court has not made a determination in the case. If you read the complaint that was filed, it recites a number of technical aspects in the case but my guess is that the court is not going to repudiate Obama's citizenship. That's all. Nothing to see here folks.

 

[GoodWitch58]

Note to Leftists: this is not a vast right-wing conspiracy. This furor started with a lawsuit filed in Pennsylvannia by a high-ranking Democrat who had supported Hillary Clinton. Yes, Snopes and factcheck.org have both cleared Obama of all charges on this. They have seen the his birth certificate and declared him to be a natural born American. Inasfar as I know, the court has not made a determination in the case. If you read the complaint that was filed, it recites a number of technical aspects in the case but my guess is that the court is not going to repudiate Obama's citizenship. That's all. Nothing to see here folks.

Exactly...it's easy to find the information. So no reason to continue to pass on rumors.

 

[Rita]

Since hearing about this on Wednesday for the first time, I tried to look up the info. Is there a concrete answer?

edit: .SORRY! I made this post before I realized this thread had 2 more pages. Some of the info below has already been posted. My bad!
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Beyond reading factcheck.com your time might be better spent reading up on Jerome Corsi. Then you will have a pretty good idea of where some of this stuff comes from.

Here's a link from PolitiFact.com if you haven't already checked it out in you research: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

from it:
On June 13, 2008, Obama’s campaign finally released a copy, while launching a fact-check Web site of its own, Fightthesmears.com. The site is a direct response to allegations about Obama that won’t go away: He’s Muslim. He took the oath of office on a Koran. He refuses to say the Pledge of Allegiance. PolitiFact has researched all of these accusations and none of them are true.
When the birth certificate arrived from the Obama campaign it confirmed his name as the other documents already showed it. Still, we took an extra step: We e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real.
“It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,” spokesman Janice Okubo told us. ..........................................
......... The Hawaii Department of Health receives about a dozen e-mail inquiries a day about Obama’s birth certificate, spokesman Okubo said.
“I guess the big issue that’s being raised is the lack of an embossed seal and a signature,” Okubo said, pointing out that in Hawaii, both those things are on the back of the document. “Because they scanned the front … you wouldn’t see those things.”
Okubo says she got a copy of her own birth certificate last year and it is identical to the Obama one we received.
And about the copy we e-mailed her for verification? “When we looked at that image you guys sent us, our registrar, he thought he could see pieces of the embossed image through it.”
Still, she acknowledges: “I don’t know that it’s possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents.”

And there’s the rub. It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible.
But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over.
There is not one shred of evidence to disprove PolitiFact’s conclusion that the candidate’s name is Barack Hussein Obama, or to support allegations that the birth certificate he released isn’t authentic.
And that’s true no matter how many people cling to some hint of doubt and use the Internet to fuel their innate sense of distrust.


Hope this sets your mind at ease.

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[Smiling JOe]

I never said that I don't KNOW where I was born. I stated that I don't REMEMBER where I was born, and it was stated that Obama didn't "remember" where he was born. Because I don't remember where I was born, doesn't mean that I was born elsewhere. Sure, I could look it up, but there is no reason to, what-so-ever. That would be about as silly as looking up the room number where my mother stayed while in the hospital. It isn't a requirement of a Presidential candidate to remember where he or she was born, only to prove that he or she is a natural-born citizen. I have never been asked the name of the hospital in which I was born. The name of the hospital isn't on my birth certificate, and what if I was born in a taxi? Would it have the cab number on the birth certificate. It is unimportant unless the hospital effed me up during delivery, and I need to file a lawsuit against them.

Surely, if Barack was born in Kenya, he would have had to have a passport to get to the USA. I wonder if there are gov't records of him having a passport when he was an infant? If you could prove that he had a passport as an infant, coming from Kenya to the USA, that would be an easy thing to look up, and have him thrown out of the election.

For what it's worth, I am not a lib. In fact, I am now a registered Republican, bless my heart. Still haven't changed it back to unaffiliated. I have seen plenty of thread titles which give no real information, though the intention was to inform the uninformed about politics. Most of those threads were simply regurgitated political slurs heard on the radio, seen on TV or the www, or read in some pulbication. The statements are as bad as the smearHeads hired by each campaign. I have avoided reading most of them, as they only disguise the truth and real issues which are being avoided. I haven't jumped on Supermom. I have jumped the old idea that Obama isn't American. Believe me, if he was born in Kenya, on foreign soil, we would know because campaigns spend millions of dollars to find out every detail of their the candidates. Hell, they even researched Plumber Joe, and found that he hasn't paid property taxes and doesn't have a license of some sort, and Plumber Joe isn't even running for office.

 

[GoodWitch58]

Yet you respond, bumping the thread, causing others to read and respond.

Good point, Robert. I should have resisted. But, I was surprised to see it....here on Sowal.

 

[Teresa]

I see if someone asks a question on here they are still attacked as everyone immediately, through the use of yoga I imagine, has made a determination of what they really are trying to do and say. Of course people could exercise the option of not reading the post, ignoring the post, or just not responding, but I guess that is out of the question.

this is the worst kind of smear based on the worst kind of motive.. but, wr, if you think its a legitimate question, then please respond to it and explain your own feeling on the subject. some of us were interested enough to try to provide facts from several websites, but for some reason some folks aren't interested in those.

Yoga? come on wr. you can do better.

if anyone read any of the fact checkers, you would notice that this kind of lawsuit about a politician's citizenship is fairly common and the same has been done about mccain and cheney and others. do we discuss it here? if so, its only for a post or two and just to share some interesting tidbits among friends. no harm, and surely no motive or suspicion. most of us realize what these kinds of suits are intended to do and there is no basis to them. there are always plenty of nutcases filing suits on every kind of claim. attorneys just love it.

if its common, then what makes this thread so grossly gross? for me, its all the trash talk put forth every single day by certain candidates and talking heads. its getting old.

I thought we had learned early on in this political forum what was worthy of discussion and serious deliberation. If supermom really needs to know the answer to her question, then i hope she finds it. I know she didn't have the same motive of those who started these emails. she has a need to know the answer, though I am not sure why. I am not blaming her. I am just sad about the existence of such crap circulating the internet.

 

[Smiling JOe]

wrobert, since you brought Yoga into this, you obviously still think that Yoga is evil. Seriously, have you taken time to learn anything about Yoga? Anything at all? Could you at least Wikipedia it and read that summary and report back to us on how you continue to think it is evil? I'll start you off with the first couple of paragraphs from www.wikipedia.com

Yoga ([ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit"]Sanskrit[/ame]: योग, [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAST"]IAST[/ame]: y?ga, IPA: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA"][joːgə][/ame]) refers to traditional physical and mental disciplines originating in [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India"]India[/ame], to the goal achieved by those disciplines, and to one of the six orthodox (āstika) schools of [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_philosophy"]Hindu philosophy[/ame].[1][2]


Major branches of a yoga include [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raja_Yoga"]Raja Yoga[/ame], [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma_Yoga"]Karma Yoga[/ame], [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jnana_Yoga"]Jnana Yoga[/ame], [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhakti_Yoga"]Bhakti Yoga[/ame], and [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatha_Yoga"]Hatha Yoga[/ame].[3][4][5] Raja Yoga, compiled in the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_Sutras_of_Patanjali"]Yoga Sutras of Patanjali[/ame], and known simply as yoga in the context of Hindu philosophy, is part of the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samkhya"]Samkhya[/ame] tradition.[6] Many other [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_texts"]Hindu texts[/ame] discuss aspects of yoga, including the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veda"]Vedas[/ame], [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upanishads"]Upanishads[/ame], the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita"]Bhagavad Gita[/ame], the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatha_Yoga_Pradipika"]Hatha Yoga Pradipika[/ame], the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Samhita"]Shiva Samhita[/ame] and various [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantra"]Tantras[/ame].
The Sanskrit word yoga has many meanings[7], and is derived from the Sanskrit root yuj, meaning to control, to yoke or to unite.[8] Translations include joining, uniting, union, conjunction, and means.[9][10][11] Outside India, the term yoga is typically associated with [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatha_Yoga"]Hatha Yoga[/ame] and its [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asanas"]asanas[/ame] (postures) or as a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_as_exercise"]form of exercise[/ame]. A practitioner of Yoga is called a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogi"]Yogi[/ame] (unisex term) or [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogini"]Yogini[/ame] (for female).

 

[poppy]

For what it's worth, I am not a lib. In fact, I am now a registered Republican, bless my heart.

Oh come on smiling JOe I know you're a lib. and proud of it, but it's our little secret.

 

[Teresa]

I only wish I was the Yogina I aspire to be. then I would never have looked at this thread or responded to it.

however, I must thank Rhonda. we all learned things today. we learned that some of us do not know the name of the hospital we were born, and some of us do. btw, I was born on Langley Air Force Base in Virginia and the only reason I know that is every year on my Birthday my dad calls and tells me so. he adds that I cost him $7. and that my mom learned to make a bed military style as soon as I was born. the same story I've heard for 40-something years. how could I EVER forget?

we've also learned about the court case questioning Obama's citizenship which I must admit to having never read about because I don't get those emails. I have gotten a few Obama is a Muslim emails but not much else. It is interesting to know about these matters even though its sad to know about them at the same time.

 

[Miss Critter]

This should settle the matter once and for all. Straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak:

[nomedia]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZZXMCNpFbk[/nomedia]