Deer Lake State Park [update - not closing]

[beachmouse]

A bunch of people are playing chicken right now with the state budget, which is apparently even worse off than anyone thought during the last special session.

This is he downside of relying on sales tax so much in place of property taxes for a state/local budget- property taxes are more sticky downward, and you can at least more or less plan reliably on incoming revenues in that area for the fiscal year.

 

[TreeFrog]

Does anybody know if TDC has weighed in on this yet?

 

[2bohemians]

If our memory serves us correctly, you don't have to pay at that park -- why is this? We would be more than happy to contribute $$ every time we visit to help keep the park open.

 

[2bohemians]

I love that park!
I took this photo there last summer. I hope to take many more.

Nice photo thanks for sharing!

 

[Mark Partington]

The nice part about this park is the fact it's not rife with amenities. It used to take some real nature lovin....seriously; to walk thru the roped off area before the access...like standing on the sun. I understand the need for public access; hence the beach walk over...till the bikes started shooting down there. Also much easier to 'roller' mounds of amenities out there...which has its downside. Lord...Bobby J always reminds me to wait 24 hrs before hitting the send button; but really: what's up? Its getting pretty transparent.

Lakewood...that little 3 max car"nook" is public, but I dont get the 'development' idea there; build parking ....where? Gramma's garden?
More starbucks.

This was one of the last places we recognized.
Posiden will be taking all this back soon.......

 

[Matt J]

Yes, but that doesn't stop a number of people who now park along the road at the county park and then walk a very short distance down to the state park beach. They could just use the county park, but some choose to walk the little distance to enjoy the quieter atmosphere of Deer Lake State Park beach. I often walk down from Eastern Lake to Deer Lake myself - about a 20 minute walk. A number of visitors don't walk that far, they just set up as close to an access, etc. as they can.

Sorry I should have clarified further that this park does already have parking. It is the parking lot North East at the corner.

If our memory serves us correctly, you don't have to pay at that park -- why is this? We would be more than happy to contribute $$ every time we visit to help keep the park open.

Little upkeep, no full bathrooms. It's what the park service refers to as a "primitive" park. The more facilities the more rangers. The ranger over Deer Lake is also in charge of the surrounding forest. Where as the Grayton Ranger is only responsible for the Park and the Cabins.

 

[DuneLaker]

Lakewood...that little 3 max car"nook" is public, but I dont get the 'development' idea there; build parking ....where? Gramma's garden?
More starbucks.

I think we might be talking about two different places. There is a very small public park at the stop sign on Lakewood/Lakeview Dr. for Eastern Lake. Nothing much needs to be done there. It is nice little park like it is. There is another county park ON THE BEACH about 1/2 mile from that park. It is between two condos and is a fairly nice broad beach area. While I'd prefer on one hand to not have any more development on the beach, with the larger number of people on the beach not staying at an adjacent condo, some more bathrooms are really going to be necessary. The right of way along the road that already exists might deserve a look at providing more public parking. A bathroom at the Eastern Lake outfall would also be helpful to this general area. But, back to Deer Lake State Park. We sholuld just leave this alone as much as possible and keep it open to the public. Personally, I didn't like the large somewhat overdone walkover. But, it is an awesome place to walk through and sit on one of the benches to view the dunes like all used to be.

I agree with earlier post by SB that with so much being taken care of by other entities like Walton County Sheriff and TDC, just what budget cuts are they talking about that would close the park?

 

[Santiago]

That park has one small bathroom which is run by a solar panel on the roof. It has a gravel screenings entry road. There are no services of anykind there. How does it make sense that the State and Walton County both have speant millions of tax dollars buying land for public beach access only to prohibit the public from using it? A small group of volunteers, maybe Watersound Beach HOA Security or another Developer could open and close the gate. A private Port-a-let company would love to have the oportunity to have a service agreement on that bathroom for $75.00 per month.

I can't find any logic in the announcement. What's more logical is that the Governor wants to create a reaction and induce some grassroots efforts or maybe a big developer pulled some strings to get another developers only beach access closed. How much less do you think the value of Tommy Henry's Prominence Development is worth wholesale with no beach access? What other developer, aside from JOE, would have any interest at all in Prominence with the only hope of beach access closed?

In the words of Santiago "Who cares if AAbsolute thinks it's shady, it's called business"

Hey, don't drag me into this. I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm with you, I think it's much ado about nothing.

 

[AAbsolute]

Hey, don't drag me into this. I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm with you, I think it's much ado about nothing.

Your quote from days gone by, "it's called business", rings in my ears often when it comes to a party exercising leverage over another in the name of business. You are in good company, Larry Davis from Rosemary used that line on me in 2000 in a real estate dispute and I saw Al Pacino use a variant in Oceans 13 too.

 

[AAbsolute]

Anybody see the correlation?

Has anyone else out here noticed that the Coastal Dune Lake Advisory Board is influenced by St. Joe through Mary Rosenheim? At about the same time of her installation to the Board, The St. Joe Company purchased a controlling interest in Wild Heron and its frontage on Lake Powell. It has been rumored for some time that Lake Powell is under consideration for a more permanent opening to the Gulf through a gulf/lake pass. Again, coincidentally, JOE purchased the Bay Point Marina in an effort to have a more complete series of points of conection to the waterways of North West Florida.

Trivia questions: Does the Coastal Dune Lake Advisory Board have the authority to open connections to the gulf? Who else has the same permission? How many JOE communities front on Coastal Dune Lakes? How many CDL's are there in the world? Who has more present influence over openings of CDL's to the Gulf than JOE? Is Deer Lake State Park the planned access to the Gulf for any of JOE's competitors?