Stimulus bills head to conference

[Will B]

The "we won get over it attitude"...

This is the kind of bullshiat that reminds people every few years to think, "Oh yeah, that's why they couldn't hold control..."

Republicans have caught the Democrats in a midnight ?stimulus? power play that seeks to cut Republican conferees out of the House-Senate negotiations

Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations - HUMAN EVENTS

Transparent? cough**bullshiat**cough
Bipartisan? Pure unmitigated BS...

 

[traderx]

This is the kind of bullshiat that reminds people every few years to think, "Oh yeah, that's why they couldn't hold control..."

Republicans have caught the Democrats in a midnight ?stimulus? power play that seeks to cut Republican conferees out of the House-Senate negotiations

Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations - HUMAN EVENTS

Transparent? cough**bullshiat**cough
Bipartisan? Pure unmitigated BS...

I am curious as to how the Obamanistias feel about this.

 

[scooterbug44]

Um, I think I missed the hysteria inducer in the article.

Why wouldn't the staffers of the House leader and Senate leader get together to prepare the report?

They've all been debating it at length, it consists of combining 2 bills that have already passed, it still has to be voted on and they made it a condition that it has to be publicly posted for 48 hours before the vote ....................... so how are the Repubs being shut out?

If they put stuff in that isn't as agreed upon, they won't get the votes.

P.S. The article is posted on a site that touts itself as "the headquarters of the conservative underground" and wants me to click a link and join the NRA

Here's a link to an AP article on MSNBC that seems much more believable - after meetings yesterday they drew up a bill and are continuing to have meetings and negotiate the terms today as they can't pass it w/o the support of people from BOTH parties.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29136678/

 

[Will B]

Uhhh...they are not allowing Republican input into the final version that will be voted on...hello?

 

[scooterbug44]

How are they not allowing their input?

They're spending another day going back in forth in meetings negotiating the terms w/ them......................and continuing to revise what they had staffers type up last night to get the FINAL version that they will ALL vote on!

That's like saying a boss has no input on the letter the secretary typed up according to his/her directions and that he/she will review again before signing.

 

[Lynnie]

I like all the meetings they're having~~~~~~~~~~~


CEO of co. I used to work for made over $14MM. Yep, $14,000,000 and the Presidents, VP's made between $750K and $2MM. I am all about capitalism and making money.

We had people in mail room and clerical staff, some entry level positions who could barely pay their bills.

I thought how cool would it be if my CEO cut his salary only by $3MM (leaving himself $11MM) and put that money right back into human capital within the co. Wall Street would love it and stock would soar, not to mention the fabulous kharma and improved work ethic among everyone in the co. And, I'm not a socialist, but when it's glaring at you, I think something should be done.

CEO of course didn't do that, never would consider it, actually and we still soared in popularity with Wall St.


And, it's easy to pay the $1TR debt - every person in America pays approx $3K....that's all, $3K.

 

[Lynnie]

Signed - $789B. Does anyone know what it looks like?

 

[Will B]

And, it's easy to pay the $1TR debt - every person in America pays approx $3K....that's all, $3K.

Except for those who are below the taxable income line, those who are unemployed, children, etc...

That 3000 bucks starts creeping up right out of the gate.

Then, take that great tax code into account and the Dems outright hatred of the evil rich. Bottom line is that you and I will probably not be affected, but the upper 5% of the taxpaying populous are going to get hammered silly and will stop spending their money or investing it into anything for the time being. Before any of this was voted on NYC was already talking about how many millions and millions they were going to lose in income tax revenue if top exec pay gets capped. Look at what's already happening in California.

Why do so many people have so much trouble seeing the big picture. Somebody needs to archive all these threads and pull them back out in 4-8 years to see where we ultimately wind up...

 

[Smiling JOe]

What was their reply? Just curious...

Sen Matinez replied in a letter from my first letter, and stated that we need to do something, and that he fully supported the first Stimulus Act. He says we can't do nothing, though he thinks the current bill is about $30 Billion too fat. (like that is real money when we are talking about over a trillion $$$ in payback.)

Sen Nelson has failed to reply to my letters.

I wrote more letters today, asking for their opinion of how the stimulus package would actually stimulate the economy enough to pull America out of the slump, without breaking the backs of the future of this company. No reply yet.

Funny to me that gov't is so dang slow about everything, and that is how it was set up to operate -- lengthy, detailed discussion, so that no one makes jerk-reaction law. Only now, when they want to throw money to their friends, they push rapidly to have no discussion. Seriously, I spend more thought on less important personal matters than they will spend pretending to debate this bill.

 

[Will B]

Straight from Obama's website, change.gov...

End the Practice of Writing Legislation Behind Closed Doors: As president, Barack Obama will restore the American people's trust in their government by making government more open and transparent. Obama will work to reform congressional rules to require all legislative sessions, including committee mark-ups and conference committees, to be conducted in public. By making these practices public, the American people will be able to hold their leaders accountable for wasteful spending and lawmakers won't be able to slip favors for lobbyists into bills at the last minute.

Oops...I guess he forgot this little promise as well as forgetting to tell Reid and Pelosi.

Or does it count at all any more since this is from the President Elect Obama's website and not the website of the President.