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Lynnie

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Apr 18, 2007
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One of the things I am huge proponent of is to write a letter to your Congressman/woman, whatever.

That is how your voice is heard. Everybody has great ideas, but the question was posed, "How do we stop Congress from passing this?" Make them hear you.......
 

Smiling JOe

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Nov 18, 2004
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And, he slept with a Man Type for four years......I neverf knew this, did Y'all?

Guess, those parochial schools just didn't want to mention this one. LOL:D
Reportedly, so did Bill Clinton, though some say they had separate bedrooms.
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"The Senate bill spends more than the House bill. This very large level of spending cannot be sustained. Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner has already forecasted an additional two trillion dollars in spending; therefore it's incumbent upon us to get it right. This bill simply does not give us what we need - a focused bill with targeted tax cuts and spending that would be timely and stimulative." -- Sen Mel Martinez (FL) from his most recent "news release."
 

traderx

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Mar 25, 2008
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One of the things I am huge proponent of is to write a letter to your Congressman/woman, whatever.

That is how your voice is heard. Everybody has great ideas, but the question was posed, "How do we stop Congress from passing this?" Make them hear you.......

I agree but I wrote both my senators to express my non-support of and concern for the TARP bill. They wrote back with a bunch of garbage about how they support free enterprise but feel compelled to vote for the bill because we had to do something. Polls at the time showed that a majority of voters did not want TARP. They don't care. They nestle together inside the beltway and become like a colony of ants, working independently of their constituents
and preserving their nest. Our system is broken.
 

GoodWitch58

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Oct 10, 2005
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Yeah, it is a doozy. Maybe it would have been better to post it in the Lounge, as it could be fiction for all I know.

scootyb...there are a thousand stories in the naked city. This email I posted was one of them and yours is another. I, too, was shocked at the whole I am leaving the country with mine and y'all can flounder. Very very unAmerican. Reminds me of people that say they will leave the country if a certain politician wins a election. I think what I focused on in that email was his frustration with his fellow citizens thinking the gravy train would last forever and their unending spending to capture the "American Dream". This whole mess has taught me once again that you can do the right thing and plan ahead and at the end, things are not always in your control. Sorry if you felt I was stirring a pot or agreeing with everything in that post. Don't kill the messenger. ;-) As Mr. K said last night... "our kids are screwed".

Well, I agree with Scootyb...I would not work for this person and I feel sorry for people who must...and if he/she wants to leave, then maybe sooner rather than later, would be a good thing!!

It may be fiction or someone's attempt at something(I am not sure what) and perhaps I am taking it too seriously, but I can't help but wonder: what if this person had been the Captain of US Airways 1549?

Based on the words/ideas in the email, he would have blamed the First Officer for flying into the birds, then ditched the plane, and scrambled into the first life raft, leaving his crew and the passengers to fend for themselves. ..it was no longer his problem.

Unlike Captain Scully, who immediately assumed responsibility for the aircraft; worked with his First Officer, and in less than three minutes had determined the best solution to his problem--the one that had the best chance of saving the lives for whom he was responsible. And, then after giving the evacuation order to the cabin crew, he stayed behind and walked through a plane quickly filling with water--twice--to be sure he was leaving no one behind.

Afterwards, when he has had praise heaped upon him by everyone on the planet, he has maintained a quiet, humble attitude and has been quick to credit his crew, the passengers, and the NYC first responders and ferry captains...

He has demonstrated what I think is the best of humanity: compassion, confidence and competence. He used every bit of experience, skills, and compassion he possessed to solve the problem he was confronted with.

Compare his behavior with the bankers and financial brokers from Wall Street, who behave as though this financial mess has nothing to do with them, while they take their private jets to their Las Vegas junkets and give bonuses for failing to maintain their business in a solvent way; the members of Congress who chose to be obstructionists, rather than participants in solving the greatest problem this country has faced since the days of the Great Depression. and the talk show hosts and pundits who chose to spend every waking moment adding to the polarization of our society.

We don't need terrorists to destroy our society as long as we have people with the arrogrant, selfish attitude demonstrated in the email. As Pogo said, "we have met the enemy..."
 

Lynnie

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Apr 18, 2007
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I agree but I wrote both my senators to express my non-support of and concern for the TARP bill. They wrote back with a bunch of garbage about how they support free enterprise but feel compelled to vote for the bill because we had to do something. Polls at the time showed that a majority of voters did not want TARP. They don't care. They nestle together inside the beltway and become like a colony of ants, working independently of their constituents
and preserving their nest. Our system is broken.


Keep writing, they'll hear you! Last year, I wrote letters to Sen., Congress and the White House.......

Keep writing! The only other option is hire a lobbyist!
 

Santiago

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May 29, 2005
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Miss Kitty, it's an interesting email, but since I love my boss and know what sacrifices he makes on my and my coworkers behalf, I just can't lay all the blame for the current situation on the politicians and the tax rates. The boss you describe in that email wouldn't have made it through the initial job interview with me because he's a douchebag I wouldn't want to work for, (quibble about that word all you want, I don't have another appropriate word that will make it past the filters).

My boss isn't going to leave the country w/ his business if he doesn't get tax cuts (he's an American FTLOG), he isn't driving a Mercedes, taking lavish vacations, or living in a a McMansion .............. he's me in 10 years w/ a family to support, a modest middle class home, a business to run, clients who aren't paying bills, and is frustrated as sheet that even though he's holding up his part of the bargain by paying his bills, paying his mortgages, being fiscally conservative, arriving at work before me and finishing his work after me, the banks who don't want to loan him money because of their other dumbarse loans to people who couldn't afford them, the stock market and his assets have tanked, and the hard working American is getting screwed like you wouldn't believe........unless you're actually one of them.

He's not going to hang his employees out to dry, he's foregoing his paycheck to make sure MY payroll checks don't bounce, he's negotiating to get me a better health care plan so that I save money, and giving me benefits even though my hours have been slashed so I technically don't qualify for them - that's the reality of the REAL American business that is built on hard work, people, careers, and honesty - not the 'short term money as the only qualifier' sheet they're talking about in out of context quotations, the big box store crap, the idiocy that seems to be taught in MBA programs, and what is unfortunately being held up as an example in these discussions.

Across the country, MY people are paying their taxes, their mortgages, and worrying about their bills, their children, and their future. We don't have large houses, new cars, expensive jewelry, or designer clothes. We pay for things with a check, pay off our mortgages early, and don't buy it if we can't pay for it. My first job (those years of babysitting don't count) was agricultural labor that involved a machete because I was too young (according to the government) for other jobs . Mama Scooterbug gets getting yelled at by me because she works a post-retirement job (after retiring from her regular job after 25 years and actually raising 2 kids), but doesn't go to the restroom all day or eat because she has customers she doesn't want to keep waiting. Papa Scooterbug worked for the same company his father started with and retired after more than 35 years with them. I (used to) have a full time job and then ran my own company in my spare time. We have jobs before we're old enough to technically work, jobs, 2nd jobs, post-retirement jobs, and get grief for our crazy ideas about what is right and wrong - but if the rest of the country was as crazy or hardworking as us, this crisis wouldn't exist.

We'll pay our tax bills like we always have, we'll plan for our own retirement and futures like we always have, we'll be the foundations of our community like we always have, and we'll be the ones that continue to pay for the people making profits at everyone's expense and working the system.

That's our reality.

You want to point fingers, you want to exaggerate partisan bickering, and you want to continuously divide us, but we're still Americans who need a solution, and we are getting screwed because people can't see the forest for the trees, and they've got a voice, but nothing good to say.

There's a possible solution on the table - we're not saying it IS THE solution, we're saying it's A solution, and that if it puts us and our neighbors back to work and keeps our country moving it's okay with us. We don't like it all, we know someone who wrote a check for a campaign is getting rewarded, we know our kids and grandkids will pay for it when we're done paying for it, and we wish none of it was necessary, but we know that common sense, reality, and what we want have always taken very different paths - it was part of the coursework at the 'school of hard knocks' we all attended.

There's a possible solution and it only costs $800 billion or so. WTF, let's try it, its something.
 

Will B

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Jan 5, 2006
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Yet, another campaign promise broken...

Obama promised that pending legistlation would be posted for 48 hours for the public to review and comment. Gee...guess what they didn't do? Yeah, I don't even have to answer that one.

To make matters worse the bill is 1,071 pages long, and even Democrats are saying that there's no way to read what's in it before Pelosi tries to call for the vote. Repulicans were not even given access to it at first because they were told that they voted against it the first time so there was no reason to think that they wouldn't vote against it again. How can somebody vote for or against something in good faith if they have not even read it?

:dunno::blink:

The only saving grace is that I don't have any kids who will burdened with paying off this steaming crap pile.
 

scooterbug44

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May 8, 2007
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That isn't Obama going back on a campaign promise - the House specifically voted to have the bill public for 48 hours before voting! :bang:

Pelosi needs a severe reality check (and maybe a smack upside the head).
 
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