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30ashopper

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National parks have special rules designed to preserve and conserve places we have found to be so special that we gave them land, funds, and a staff to help in that goal.

Continuing to ban guns from them for the practical reasons of preventing poaching and public safety is basic common sense, not a trampling of liberty.

I have never wanted or needed a gun in a national park, there is no animal you can legally shoot in a national park, there is nothing you need to protect yourself from in a national park (very low crime rates for you wanna-be dirty harry types), and the mere discharging of a gun in a national park destroys the very purpose the parks were created for.

The people most familiar with the day to day working of our park system join me in not wanting this changed, as do the majority of the americans polled on the issue.

A gun is anathema to everything a national park stands for and anyone who thinks they need a gun to enjoy one obviously has no idea of their mission or spirit.

Scooter, how does the right to carry gun endanger public safety in a national park or cause increases in the amount of poaching on state land? Also, what do national parks "stand for" in your view?
 

30ashopper

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public safety in a venue full of families/campers/hikers.

Gun ownership statistics by state do not back up the claim that public safety increases as gun ownership decreases. Sorry Bob but before you convince me you'll have to back that claim up with some statistics.
 

6thGen

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the right is rightly vague and, of course, not without limit. were there a need to bring weaponry into national parks, i would support the proposal. the second amendment is alive and well, and can coexist with common sense.

Agree with all of that, except where you place the burden. If there were a compelling need to stop authorized individuals from carrying weaponry in a national park, I would not support the proposal. There would seem to be more of a compelling need to stop individuals from carrying on a crowded street. Why don't you start there?
 

steyou

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next time you happen by the wal mart sporting goods counter and ask for ammo, consider the answer they give you, and then think of all those rhodes scholars hoarding bullets for the next civil war. like i said, "low on thought, high on feelings".

Bob, Bob, Bob please stop. You are so funny. Please stop the diatribe. I had to go get that bottle of visine. Your killing me. Do you really think we are heading to the circumstance of a civil war. Since you brought it up, if it does come to civil unrest do you want Bubba from the Walmart counter protecting you or the others with rocks and sticks?
 

Bob

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Agree with all of that, except where you place the burden. If there were a compelling need to stop authorized individuals from carrying weaponry in a national park, I would not support the proposal. There would seem to be more of a compelling need to stop individuals from carrying on a crowded street. Why don't you start there?
i support concealed weapons permits to those who can qualify both need and proficiency
 

Winnie

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i support concealed weapons permits to those who can qualify both need and proficiency

We are almost in perfect agreement on this.

I support concealed weapons permits to those who can qualify.
Proficiency is a qualifier in Florida.
 

Bob

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Bob, Bob, Bob please stop. You are so funny. Please stop the diatribe. I had to go get that bottle of visine. Your killing me. Do you really think we are heading to the circumstance of a civil war. Since you brought it up, if it does come to civil unrest do you want Bubba from the Walmart counter protecting you or the others with rocks and sticks?
first off, why is it all those good ole boys laden with ammo and firepower are the ones most afraid of civil unrest? i own guns, and find no need to bumrush the local gun range for the coming bubba-rapture. i don't get tied in a knot having restrictions put on me as to how or when i can carry a weapon. the first item i'd pack to visit yellowstone would be a camera, not a ruger. guns in national parks? that's a falcon riot!
 

steyou

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first off, why is it all those good ole boys laden with ammo and firepower are the ones most afraid of civil unrest? i own guns, and find no need to bumrush the local gun range for the coming bubba-rapture. i don't get tied in a knot having restrictions put on me as to how or when i can carry a weapon. the first item i'd pack to visit yellowstone would be a camera, not a ruger. guns in national parks? that's a falcon riot!

Bob, I asked you a specific question and you did exactly what I anticipated. You dodged the question. Instead you went off on additional diatribe. Have a nice day. I'm going to the park.
 

scooterbug44

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I am glad the LANDMARK CREDIT CARD BILL passed.

Hopefully Obama will issue an executive order to overturn that bit of gun lobby stupidity they tacked onto it. :angry:
 
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