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This is not ridicule of anyone's faith, it's a sincere critique of faith in general. I just find it funny that conservatives consider themselves to be bastions of reason and yet they rely so heavily on faith. Don't you consider that odd? It's certainly contradictory. It doesn't leave them much room to criticize empathetic liberals for thinking with their hearts instead of their minds. What gives? :dunno:


One problem with this discussion might be that we are talking about oranges and apples. There are religious "conservatives" ie: Mormons, Catholics, Evangelicals and there are "liberals" Episcopal, Methodist,Unitarians.
There are Moral "conservatives" anti abortion, anti gay, anti drug, anti drinking, anti pornography and their are moral "liberals" basically all the pros.

And finally, there are political "conservatives" less government, less taxes, strong national defense and political "liberals" pro government, pro higher taxes and less national defense.


There are many people who move between conservative and liberal depending on what the topic is. While many posts in this discussion tend to lump all religious people as "conservative" that is certainly not the case. And many political "conservatives" are not religious. Many political "conservatives" are decidedly liberal about moral issues ( Libertarians) As a country we cannot even get all conservatives in one political party and all liberals in the other, so everyone needs to be careful with the labeling.:dunno:
 

LuciferSam

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One problem with this discussion might be that we are talking about oranges and apples. There are religious "conservatives" ie: Mormons, Catholics, Evangelicals and there are "liberals" Episcopal, Methodist,Unitarians.
There are Moral "conservatives" anti abortion, anti gay, anti drug, anti drinking, anti pornography and their are moral "liberals" basically all the pros.

And finally, there are political "conservatives" less government, less taxes, strong national defense and political "liberals" pro government, pro higher taxes and less national defense.


There are many people who move between conservative and liberal depending on what the topic is. While many posts in this discussion tend to lump all religious people as "conservative" that is certainly not the case. And many political "conservatives" are not religious. Many political "conservatives" are decidedly liberal about moral issues ( Libertarians) As a country we cannot even get all conservatives in one political party and all liberals in the other, so everyone needs to be careful with the labeling.:dunno:

I'm just pointing out that there is another side to the conservatives, particularly the neocons. Some of them are the least rational and most idealistic.
 

Lynnie

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One problem with this discussion might be that we are talking about oranges and apples. There are religious "conservatives" ie: Mormons, Catholics, Evangelicals and there are "liberals" Episcopal, Methodist,Unitarians.
There are Moral "conservatives" anti abortion, anti gay, anti drug, anti drinking, anti pornography and their are moral "liberals" basically all the pros.

And finally, there are political "conservatives" less government, less taxes, strong national defense and political "liberals" pro government, pro higher taxes and less national defense.


There are many people who move between conservative and liberal depending on what the topic is. While many posts in this discussion tend to lump all religious people as "conservative" that is certainly not the case. And many political "conservatives" are not religious. Many political "conservatives" are decidedly liberal about moral issues ( Libertarians) As a country we cannot even get all conservatives in one political party and all liberals in the other, so everyone needs to be careful with the labeling.:dunno:


Yep! I almost got confused because there are a lot of possibilities here. You summed it up, however!! ;-)
 

fisher

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Yeah, the crux of conservatism is the fear of death. It ruins their life and makes them want to drag others down with them.

Ruins their lives. Huh????????? More empty rhetoric from the left.

You do realize that in study after study, it has been shown that in general conservatives tend to be happier than liberals. Abstract from one such study--- http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WM0-4V99T62-1&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=66e6c2fa1edd7c507808bc2fdfd19d61
 
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LuciferSam

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Ruins their lives. Huh????????? More empty rhetoric from the left.

You do realize that in study after study, it has been shown that in general conservatives tend to be happier than liberals. Abstract from one such study--- ScienceDirect - Journal of Research in Personality : Liberal and conservative political ideologies: Different routes to happiness?

Interesting, the abstract essentially says conservatives have fewer negative thoughts and liberals have more positive thoughts. I'll go with the latter anyday. Sounds like conservatives are in denial about their lives. Liberals are more likely to acknowledge their setbacks, but I think they might experience greater joy overall. I'm not willing to spend the $31.50 to get the details.
 

Lynnie

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How?s this: Would you be willing to slap your father in the face, with his permission, as part of a comedy skit?

And, second: Does it disgust you to touch the faucet in a public restroom?

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To answer the questions: Yes and Yes.
 

Gidget

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Absolutely! We can be heathens together......:rotfl:Dark side-ED!

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