Obama doctrine kills 60 in Pakistan

[scooterbug44]

I don't think all wars or military actions are preventable. Yes, diplomacy could have prevented some wars and should be tried first, but it's hard to negotiate when the other side refuses.

Many of the wars/conflicts mentioned occured after diplomacy failed.

 

[Gidget]

I don't think all wars or military actions are preventable. Yes, diplomacy could have prevented some wars and should be tried first, but it's hard to negotiate when the other side refuses.

Many of the wars/conflicts mentioned occured after diplomacy failed.

And sometimes there is the refusal to negotiate. :roll:

 

[Gidget]

Good grief Andy, I can't believe I'm getting back into this discussion but I will make one last comment on my belief about war. I've never said my view is right or anyone else's is wrong it's just my opinion ok. I believe all wars are preventable if both sides will just give a little, there has to be a common ground somewhere to prevent the death and destruction brought on by war. You say preventing war flies in the face of human nature, well I hope you are wrong. I hold out hope that someday civilization will advance just enough to realize we are not all the same and never will be, that being different in color, religion, language, customs, sexuality and nationality is what makes our world so interesting. We don't have to agree on everything but we don't have to fight over it either. This is one reason I purchased the Florida John Lennon license plate, It may never happen but just imagine.

Poppy, I am beginning to think we are cut from the same cloth. We think that the world can do better and I "get" what you are saying. Hang in there! ;-)

LOL I posted the lyrics to Imagine on the thread asking us what's our fav song!!!! I'll have to look for your license plate when I get to FL - if you see me honk and you'll know it's Gidget!

"They may say I'm a dreamer - but I'm not the only one. I hope one day they will join us and the world will live as one."

G

 

[Andy A]

Poppy, I am beginning to think we are cut from the same cloth. We think that the world can do better and I "get" what you are saying. Hang in there! ;-)

LOL I posted the lyrics to Imagine on the thread asking us what's our fav song!!!! I'll have to look for your license plate when I get to FL - if you see me honk and you'll know it's Gidget!

"They may say I'm a dreamer - but I'm not the only one. I hope one day they will join us and the world will live as one."

G

I love all you dreamers and idealists. Thankfully, there are those who are more practical in nature around to take care of the nation. At least I hope this is true.

 

[Gidget]

I love all you dreamers and idealists. Thankfully, there are those who are more practical in nature around to take care of the nation. At least I hope this is true.

I too am glad there are those "more practical" to protect us from say ... weapons of mass destruction. That is very practical. ;-)

I say this with a smile because the whole thing is ludicrous. It is great to have high ideals and dreams - that doesn't mean I wouldn't protect my country or my family if danger were to come a callin'. I am the daughter of a war hero who was also a police captain. I was raised on the firing range, I know how to shoot straight. But I also know how to sit down and come to a consensus with those who have different points of views. Something I learned a long time ago. Nothing wrong with that.

G

 

[Andy A]

I too am glad there are those "more practical" to protect us from say ... weapons of mass destruction. That is very practical. ;-)

I say this with a smile because the whole thing is ludicrous. It is great to have high ideals and dreams - that doesn't mean I wouldn't protect my country or my family if danger were to come a callin'. I am the daughter of a war hero who was also a police captain. I was raised on the firing range, I know how to shoot straight. But I also know how to sit down and come to a consensus with those who have different points of views. Something I learned a long time ago. Nothing wrong with that.

G

I'll just say, no, there isn't and let it go at that.

 

[30ashopper]

Good grief Andy, I can't believe I'm getting back into this discussion but I will make one last comment on my belief about war. I've never said my view is right or anyone else's is wrong it's just my opinion ok. I believe all wars are preventable if both sides will just give a little, there has to be a common ground somewhere to prevent the death and destruction brought on by war. You say preventing war flies in the face of human nature, well I hope you are wrong. I hold out hope that someday civilization will advance just enough to realize we are not all the same and never will be, that being different in color, religion, language, customs, sexuality and nationality is what makes our world so interesting. We don't have to agree on everything but we don't have to fight over it either. This is one reason I purchased the Florida John Lennon license plate, It may never happen but just imagine.

I don't agree at all with this, but then again, I don't feel war in certain cases should be prevented, in fact in many cases is a necassary and justified.

 

[Lynnie]

I too am glad there are those "more practical" to protect us from say ... weapons of mass destruction. That is very practical. ;-)

I say this with a smile because the whole thing is ludicrous. It is great to have high ideals and dreams - that doesn't mean I wouldn't protect my country or my family if danger were to come a callin'. I am the daughter of a war hero who was also a police captain. I was raised on the firing range, I know how to shoot straight. But I also know how to sit down and come to a consensus with those who have different points of views. Something I learned a long time ago. Nothing wrong with that.

G

My Daddy was WWII and Korea as well. Of course, I am not for war. Discussions are great and sometimes things get a little out of hand here on sowal.com......some take their aggressions out on others or have simply decided they don't like a person for whatever reason. I'm glad there is a forum here to capture that, offer the 'release' and hopefully, those persons don't kick the dog! ;-)

Consistent inconsistencies are all over the place these days.

Cheers~~~~~~

 

[poppy]

I don't agree at all with this, but then again, I don't feel war in certain cases should be prevented, in fact in most cases is a necassary and justified.

Well thanks, with citizens like you and Andy it looks as if my four grandchildren will experience a world with war after all. It was my hope they would live in a more peaceful world but I'm the dreamer and idealist and the two of you have already thrown up your arms and surrendered the peace in favor of war being more practical, necessary and justified. Hell, it sounds like you two are already making a case for the next conflict, who are we going to kick the crap out of ?

 

[Bob]

All who ever served and, particularly those who have been in combat, do. That having been said, Poppy's take that all wars are possible to prevent, flies in the face of human nature if nothing else. Additionally, some have been necessary to preserve both our freedom and way of life.

replace the word "some" with "few" and you will be accurate.