Political correctness

[TooFarTampa]

As to the original post ... yes PC can be carried too far, and at times has been. And by now I think the term itself is outdated.

As an idea or a movement it seems a bit ridiculous. But applied correctly, I think it's just good manners, not censorship or a violation of free speech. I think it requires people to think about how they describe someone, and consider whether that description can be hurtful or inappropriate.

And then there are things like old cartoons. Over time it becomes clear that some of them are offensive and probably should just be archived and not widely distributed. Is that censorship? Some would say so, but I'd say it's just sensible and a reflection of the evolution of thinking.

Our ideas about what is right or should be are constantly evolving. That isn't going to stop. What is "PC" now is eventually going to change. So will the label for it. I hear "PC" a heck of a lot less than I did 15 years ago. Kindness and thoughtfulness, however, will never go out of style. ;-)

 

[LuciferSam]

I think everyone should just be able to speak their minds...period. It would be nice if one would simply not attempt to insult another just for the sake of being insulting. After all, it is easier to get a point across without the nasty shock values some use to verbally slap others in the face. I think it just serves to communicate better and allows us to be seen as ladies and gentlemen...even if we aren't. It works for me. Is that political correctness? Maybe not, but it is common sense.

I think as long as we have progressives speaking their mind on a message board in one of the most conservative and some would even say repressive areas of the country, there are going to be some really ugly clashes. I don't see how it could be otherwise.

 

[Lynnie]

I think as long as we have progressives speaking their mind on a message board in one of the most conservative and some would even say repressive areas of the country, there are going to be some really ugly clashes. I don't see how it could be otherwise.

Lucifer Sam, I know that you know the difference between speaking one's mind and making an overt assumption about someone they don't even know. Bob showed a complete lack of respect for this board yesterday and simultaneously revealed a great deal about his character.

Speak your minds and know your facts before making untrue statements.

I didn't even consider that an ugly clash. ;-)

 

[Lynnie]

Andy, I don't feel the need to PM you. You saw exactly what I saw. An attack on one's character with repeated opportunities to explain himself and he continued to skirt the issue. That speaks mountains! Sad and comical all the same.......

 

[LuciferSam]

Lucifer Sam, I know that you know the difference between speaking one's mind and making an overt assumption about someone they don't even know. Bob showed a complete lack of respect for this board yesterday and simultaneously revealed a great deal about his character.

Speak your minds and know your facts before making untrue statements.

I didn't even consider that an ugly clash. ;-)

I absolutely was not referring to Bob or even thinking about him when I wrote that just so you know that. I was not referring to the SoWal board when I used the word repressive. SoWal allows a lot of freedom of expression. I was referring to this part of the country. I'm trying to stay clear of anything about Bob in this case.

 

[Lynnie]

I absolutely was not referring to Bob or even thinking about him when I wrote that just so you know that. I was not referring to the SoWal board when I used the word repressive. SoWal allows a lot of freedom of expression. I was referring to this part of the country. I'm trying to stay clear of anything about Bob in this case.

That's cool. I'm sure Bob appreciates you not referencing him. Cheers~~~~~;-)

 

[Mango]

I think I understand the angst pervasive in this thread and misunderstanding. A google search of political correctness yielded numerous pages from far right conservatives blaming the left for indoctrinating people with PC and suppressing free speech. They stopped short of sending people to camps and drinking kool-aid. To what end, I am not sure, but the left claims that it is being used as a crutch for the right.

Political Correctness, neutrally, outside of politics, yes, has at times, become overbearing, especially as we age and have gotten used to using certain terms or phrases. It is certainly worthy of debate by itself.

But, when presented as a some political ideological movement whose goal is suppression and turning the populace into drones, you're bound to have a fierce, ugly debate.

I do not think it was SSB intention. (and NO, I am not being political correct, that's my gut feeling); but, if it was, it doesn't serve to help us try and make for more healthy debate around here.

IMHO, Political Correctness is more about tolerance and empathy than suppression of speech. If we make an honest mistake, most people will accept an apology. I do hate to see certain groups continuously harp on any public figure who errs, then apologizes. At that point, PC can be annoying.

 

[Lynnie]

I think I understand the angst pervasive in this thread and misunderstanding. A google search of political correctness yielded numerous pages from far right conservatives blaming the left for indoctrinating people with PC and suppressing free speech. They stopped short of sending people to camps and drinking kool-aid. To what end, I am not sure, but the left claims that it is being used as a crutch for the right.

Political Correctness, neutrally, outside of politics, yes, has at times, become overbearing, especially as we age and have gotten used to using certain terms or phrases. It is certainly worthy of debate by itself.

But, when presented as a some political ideological movement whose goal is suppression and turning the populace into drones, you're bound to have a fierce, ugly debate.

I do not think it was SSB intention. (and NO, I am not being political correct, that's my gut feeling); but, if it was, it doesn't serve to help us try and make for more healthy debate around here.

IMHO, Political Correctness is more about tolerance and empathy than suppression of speech. If we make an honest mistake, most people will accept an apology. I do hate to see certain groups continuously harp on any public figure who errs, then apologizes. At that point, PC can be annoying.

I agree.

Some inflame just to inflame and that will never promote healthy debate. I don't think SSB was trying to inflame at all. In fact, it is glaringly obvious who was trying to engage in an argumentative, ugly manner.

Apologies do go a long way.

 

[seagrovegirl]

Bob who????

 

[Teresa]

I think everyone should just be able to speak their minds...period. It would be nice if one would simply not attempt to insult another just for the sake of being insulting. After all, it is easier to get a point across without the nasty shock values some use to verbally slap others in the face. I think it just serves to communicate better and allows us to be seen as ladies and gentlemen...even if we aren't. It works for me. Is that political correctness? Maybe not, but it is common sense.

exactly Analogman. we live and learn, and through that experience, we try to be kind and respectful when communicating. Kindness, manners, respect. An educated person may understand PC at a more precise level. but anyone can be kind, use respectful language, and open their minds enough to allow understanding/respect for all people and cultures.

i enjoy little league

bob - I didn't even see the little league thread but I can only imagine. you are so adorably bad. Evil little turd you are.