Which God do you serve?

[Douglas the Intrepid]

Douglas the intrepid, we don't have the same choice of music in common. You seem nice, but your choice of music makes me wonder.Whaddyasay,

I say Godsmack and White Zombie rock your socks off! ;-)

 

[aggieb]

I say Godsmack and White Zombie rock your socks off! ;-)

:funn:

 

[Bob]

I think you are making the assumption that the principles of integrity, goodness and compassion have to go hand in hand with religion. I personally believe these principles are an integral part of being human and the separation of religion and politics has nothing to do with their moral and ethical implementation or existence. The bottom line is freedom. Whether it be the freedom of religion or the freedom from religion, this ability of free will is what makes our country great. Any 'silent cancer' would be the attempt to take this freedom from us...to make those choices for us...

dude, that was goodlike! not godlike.

 

[Bob]

Once a precedent/precedents have been set, it can be used later in a court of law to persuade the court or dissuade the court in their favor.
We have three things to consider, the big picture, the little picture, and the end result.
For example:
The little picture- The removal of scripture from military equipment. The guns still work as well as they did before so this would be insignificant if only focusing on the matter at hand.
The big picture- Each precedent of "the removal of the words of God" in America has paved a path to ultimately and finally exclude God from our government by enacting it into law. Instead of one nation under God, it would be one nation under?
The end result- Who has the most money will win. If mankind had the capability to set his own standards and the willpower to live up to them we would be seeing what we are seeing on the earth today.

There is a situation coming up now in our backyard- oil drilling. Are we not vulnerable in this economy financially. Are we going to act with integrity or are we going to pad our pockets?

I am not advocating that everyone should become a christian, I already know this is not going to happen, nor am I against anybody that is not a christian. Historically speaking, there are many positive contributors to society from all kinds of backgrounds, this is not my focus here.

I am pointing out facts that are true, already happening, and that the choices we make now as citizens will affect our future. Kurt, you're funny, yeah there are probably a million gods, but I was bringing up the choices God pointed out in the bible.

It goes back to the same question I asked before, What is the standard of the belief system for our country as a nation. If it is based on the christian God, you do have a choice to worship whatever/whoever you want. God obviously isn't going to strike you dead. If he was it would have already happened with that pic you posted the other day SWGB Lay your feathers back down, cluckers, I like SWGB and am razzing him. If it is based on human ideals, who decides what the standard is for the nation and are you as a people going to be able to protect those ideals if one is elected that doesn't know God, doesn't care about humanity, and has his/her own agenda? Have you never been deceived? What baton are we passing from generation to generation? I'm speaking of future events that could happen if we do not make the correct decisions for our nation. We cannot depend on human goodness alone. The laws must ensure that people have the right to worship/not worship, but we must watch and speak up for integrity and speak against monetary bribes.
Beachark, I'm not familiar with what Sarah Palin says, but my motive is to point out the difference between acting with integrity based on concern for the greater good of the people or acting in selfishness based on one's own agenda for personal gain. If the first is one's agenda then there is no need to be concerned, if the second is one's agenda my prayer is that it will be found out and eliminated.
Lucifersam, the shared worldview would be that everyone wants to live in a free country, but to secure those rights we must be aware of what is actually happening behind the scenes, not just on the surface. I may have skipped over saying your name personally, but read your posts and tried to cover what you asked the best way I could. I am not advocating becoming a christian, but to accept christian principles like truth, integrity, and character is what is important if we are interested in a free country not run by big money with their own agenda. Thanks Minnie for the reminder, you are a rose with no thorns. Tootsie you are always trying to see other people's point of view and find common ground. Douglas the intrepid, we don't have the same choice of music in common. You seem nice, but your choice of music makes me wonder.Whaddyasay, I don't think this country was founded just for christians, quite the contrary. John R love to hear what you have to say. 30ashopper, there is a road to hell because God gave people freedom of will to make their own choices. Scooterbug, my agenda has never changed- it is to find truth in every situation. Lucifersam, Minnie isn't speaking in code, it's plain english silly.
To wrap it up, I must say there are a wide array of opinions, but if we are interested in a free country with liberty and justice for all we are on the same page.

religion and all the conflicts caused by differing religious views is the bane of human existence. the very essence of freedom dies in the validation of theocratic groupthink.. is it not enough to have your private religious views? would you exercise your freedom of speech as a jew in iran, or as a hindu in pakistan? no one and no group has ever cornered the market on truth, integrity, and character. all people are created equal. i am free to embrace or reject your scripture based moral compass.

 

[Beauty hunter]

I say Godsmack and White Zombie rock your socks off! ;-)

Darth Vader and the dark side
Back off riders- in razz mode

 

[Beauty hunter]

religion and all the conflicts caused by differing religious views is the bane of human existence. the very essence of freedom dies in the validation of theocratic groupthink.. is it not enough to have your private religious views? would you exercise your freedom of speech as a jew in iran, or as a hindu in pakistan? no one and no group has ever cornered the market on truth, integrity, and character. all people are created equal. i am free to embrace or reject your scripture based moral compass.

Bob are you truly free?
O.k. I'm being mocking in a sick kind of humorous way- haven't spoken to you in awhile
I'll see you on the umami thread

 

[Beauty hunter]

:funn:

Life

 

[Beauty hunter]

It's all good even when we don't agree.

I am very tolerant of a difference of opinion, I might let what is happening in my real life sometimes influence my comments and sometimes my written word does not always convey my true feelings, for it is hard at times for me to put into written word what I truly believe and feel.

I believe we accomplish more with actions such as love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control hence the reference to Galatians.

And more often than not I connect with my God in places less structured than a church such as the beach, the woods, the mountains or something as simple as my back yard because much of my beliefs are interwoven with my ancestors, the Cherokee and the Scots.

Love

I love natural places too and I always love what you have to say. Thank you Minnie

 

[Beauty hunter]

I think that removing displays of Christianity from our government would make our country much greater and stronger.

Probably because I recognize that the moral worth of someone is not based on how "Christian" they claim to be (in fact the opposite is usually true IMO - especially if they want your money or vote).

I just realized that we all speak another language- it's english, but it just don't make sense to me Johnny. I'm in quirk mode, it's been a long life. Thanks for your input

 

[Matt J]

I'd prefer you keep your imaginary friends to yourself.