Rick Perry to host an only-Christians-speak rally

[Rita]

Rita you proved your bias in the 1st post- "deliver us from these people" or something simular. In your view the man gave up his rights to do anything the left does not approve of when he became governor. Democrats can speak in every black chruch in America and not one word from the defenders of speration of church and state. But a conservative cannot speak at a private function in a football stadium.
As far as whether you can pray to allah or buddah or whomever you wish should you attend, remember what you tell Christians about prayer in schools, no one can stop you from a silent prayer in your mind. What is exclusive is who speaks from the podium. And whoever pays for the podium has a right to say who stands behind it with a live mike.

He should do what other professionals do when they wish to express their private thoughts on something - clarify that they are speaking for themselves and not their companies. He should speak as a private citizen and not as governor and make that clear if he cared about separation of church and state.

remember what you tell Christians about prayer in schools

...As a Catholic Christian, what do I tell other Christians about school prayer? .... I find you rather presumptuous. But yes, I do not feel it the place to ask teachers to lead prayers or have that a part of the public school curriculum. Prayer groups often organize for before or after school - these seem to work out fine.

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[scooterbug44]

I am in full agreement with Texas preachers - if that doesn't show what a dumb idea this is, I don't know what can.

 

[Andy A]

then Perry should do it as an individual, not as a governor.

Just because he is governor does not mean he is not entitled to his freedom as an individual. When liberals finally learn the individual is one that is due freedom and not necessarily a whole group, we, as a nation, will once more be one the right track from which we have seriously departed.

 

[Rita]

I agree that he has freedom as an individual.

 

[poppy]

I agree that he has freedom as an individual.

And I agree, I didn't think anyone was arguing that point.

 

[PearlSB4U]

The seperation of church and state does not apply to individuals which are neither a church or a state, and, as individuals are entitled to the freedom to express themselves in any manner they wish according to our Constitution.

I take Andy A's statement to mean that he and Rita agree: the Governor (in his official capacity) should stay out of all things religious; Rick Perry (as an individual) can be as religious as he pleases.

 

[scooterbug44]

I took it to mean that Governor Perry (in his official capacity) should not behave any differently than Rick Perry (as an individual) - and I disagree with that.

 

[Rita]

Just because he is governor does not mean he is not entitled to his freedom as an individual. When liberals finally learn the individual is one that is due freedom and not necessarily a whole group, we, as a nation, will once more be one the right track from which we have seriously departed.

And I agree, I didn't think anyone was arguing that point.

Sorry for the confusion. I should have linked Andy A's comment above to my post, in which he is saying the same thing I was saying, but I assume does not realize it. ..

And then again - it is likely to be meant as scooter posted, but ends up being sort of contradictory or at least not clear.

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[mputnal]

We do tend to complicate the issue. There are good reasons for the separation of Church and State or Religion and Politics and I think most people agree on that. What crept into this debate is the fear of a society that will not allow the free practice of religion. There is no basis for this fear. Individuals should be allowed to practice their religion. Politicians should avoid mixing religion with politics. How does that statement threaten our freedom to practice religion. Rick Perry is a politician. Prayer is part of the practice of religion. IMO if Rick Perry was being sincere about his religion then he would not want to mix the two together. Why would he? What would be the purpose? If Rick Perry has another purpose then this makes for an attractive political cocktail for votes. I think this event makes him look very insincere as for as religion goes. It may be just another example of a politician taking themselves too seriously...

 

[idlewind]

Research and fact checking, you should try it. Remember the internet is like the bible, just because you read it there doesn't make it true.

Try taking your own advice.