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Kurt

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Commissioners will not move forward with the walkover as proposed.

As reported on WZEP AM1460

Should a new boardwalk near Topsail Preserve be built? This topic was taken up by the Walton County Commissioners in a special meeting Monday evening. Residents showed up and gave their input. Some say a dune walkover is needed to get more people on the beach and provide better access for the neighborhoods on 30-A. Those opposed feel a boardwalk would only distract from the wildlife of the preserve.

Many who spoke were in favor of the walkover. A young resident, Jessie Beckers, said she wants the beach boardwalk because she sees people jumping the fence and says it is not right. Her dad said the Boardwalk was in the original plan approved in 2007. He says the reports talks about the number of people using the beach and being able to access or vacate the beach. He also talked about waiting for the tram. He called the boardwalk an environmentally friendly boardwalk.

Carolyn Huff also said she is in favor of the plans going forward to the state. She said the accesses can be overflowing. Huff says she uses the annual pass, but does not use the tram due to the hassle. She said people do not come from the outside. She noted how boardwalks are used in other parks and areas with sensitive terrain.

Dave Kennedy talked about reports showing where people are not the primary concern when protecting endangered species, rather predators. He said this will also take cars off 30-A. A resident who lives on the west end of 30-A, said their area is booming and is different in that they get people from other nearby areas. Other residents in support of the walkover talked about the use of them in parks across the nation, the second boardwalk in the management plan, said the wildlife is not in danger and the park is for public use.

Many more spoke in opposition to the proposal. Mary Royce said she is passionately opposed and asked the commissioners to not forward the letter to the state. Edward Alexander said he is against access to the beach through Topsail and is opposed to what he called dissecting the beach. He asked if the width of 8 feet was for golf cart use. Staff said no plans are being made for carts to use the access. Another resident said he is against the proposal because of the nature preserve and the negative impact on his neighborhood. One man said the people who want this are not getting it in their neighborhood and he is against it. Sid Heath, also of Beachview Heights, said none has come up with parking issues. He said they do not have the roads for parking. Heath asked commissioners to not send the letter.

A representative with the Audubon Society said Topsail Hill is special with important habitats. She said the boardwalk is of concern to them. She noted this will be an unrestricted access that could mean dogs and alcohol on the beach. She talked about the two routes mentioned. A representative of the Defenders of Wildlife recommends the commissioners not proceeded with the letter for the eastern access. He said the Defenders of Wildlife believe the boardwalk will cause problems as it creates an advantage for predators and encroaches on wildlife. A representative of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service says the Topsail Access is under no threat of developing. She told commissioners the leading threat is habitat fragmentation and this could create fragmentation if it goes through certain areas. Others talked about the lack of parking, lack of restrooms, the changes to the wildlife and the use by a small number of people.

Commissioner Bill Chapman talked about the area and parking needs. Commissioner Cindy Meadows said, a corporation bought an access and asked if you have to be wealthy to get to the beach. She said people do not want to see others on the beach and feels that is what this is about. Commissioner Bill Imfeld talked about growth and development opportunities. He also pointed out only a small amount of the residences in the area submit bed taxes and questioned funding by the TDC. Commissioner Sara Comander also questioned the use of TDC funds in this case, talked about the lack of parking, law enforcement and no restrooms. She asked about other possible land. The motion to deny sending the letter passed. Commissioners will not move forward with the walkover as proposed.
 

Jdarg

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Feb 15, 2005
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Reason prevailed!

Let's move forward and try to solve the problems we know exist (and weren't going to be solved by that Topsail access)- find access land with room for parking and restroom facilities. If the problem put forth to be solved was so many people on that end of the beach without easy access, that Topsail option didn't have a chance in hell of solving it.
 

DaleDalbey

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Reason prevailed! Let's move forward and try to solve the problems we know exist (and weren't going to be solved by that Topsail access)- find access land with room for parking and restroom facilities. If the problem put forth to be solved was so many people on that end of the beach without easy access, that Topsail option didn't have a chance in hell of solving it.
You are right, the Topsail situation is behind us. Any suggestions regarding available land for access that also has room for parking and bathrooms? Not that Topsail was a great idea, but I think a bad idea was borne out of desperation, not just greed.
 

Matt J

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TopSail Village at this time May, 2014.


Built out per development order
Residential
64 Condominiums
56 2Br 2Ba 1,000 sq.ft. each = 56,000 sq.ft. + entrys, porches etc. Occupancy 6 persons = 336
8 3BR 2 Ba 1,400sq.ft. each = 11,200 sq.ft. + entrys, porches etc. Occupancy 8 persons = 64
64 = 67,200 sq.ft. =400


Approved development order, partially built out
Commercial
75 Room Inn 600sq.ft. each suite = 45,000sq.ft. Occupancy 4 per room =300
(Currently built is 15 suites of the 75 approved, 30ASuites)

Office space, currently built is 2,600sq.ft.
Restaurant and Meeting Space 8-12,000sq.ft. approved
(Currently built is Celebration Hall, 3,800 sq.ft.)



In addition to TopSail Village which is built on lots that were a part of the unrecorded plat of BeachView Heights, north side. There are approximately 8 additional lots that have been classified to VMU. There are also lots on 30-A in BeachView Hts South that are classified commercial, like next to ELMO's grill.
A great benefit of this potential access will be the undeveloped lots along 30-A in Beach Highlands 1st Addition. There are approximately 4-5 acres of land within these lots, some of which are directly across the street from my residence on 30-A. These lots are designated "Neighborhood Commercial" but have a highest and best use as max density townhouses or such. The build out of these properties will put great additional strain on the existing Beach Highland Neighborhood Access at Stallworth Lake. Additionally, most lots in Beach Highlands on the West side of the lake that are not lake front have no access to the Gulf, and would benefit from the proposed access.
There is substantial undeveloped land, one of the few places along 30-A, on the west end of 30-A. The benefit to the County and the public will include:
The former site of the Boys and Girls Club
Cypress Dunes, 1, and 2, and the subdivision in between
BeachView Heights, South of 30-A
TopSail Village, and lots in BeachView Heights North of 30-A
Flamingo Village
Beach Highlands 1st Addition, especially all lots West of Stallworth Lake
Beach Highland lots West of Stallworth Lake
Let me know if I can provide any additional assistance.
Tim Pauls
Developer, TopSail Village
tim.pauls@gmail.com

30ASuites.com
TheCelebrationHall.com
TopSailVillage.com


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Cindy Meadows <meacindy@co.walton.fl.us> wrote:
Please send me a summary of the number of units and other square footage for the Village.
We are putting together a summary of the number of lots,units, etc. in the west /C.R. 30A
area to get an idea about the number of people that would potentially use a beach access in that area.


Cindy Meadows, AICP
Commissioner
District 5
Walton County, Florida

Under Fla. Law, FS 119.011, Chapter 2006-32, email addresses are public records. If you do not want your email address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing.

I know it's long, but if you read the email this information was solicited by Commissioner Meadows on May 1, 2014.
 

Bob Wells

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I know it's long, but if you read the email this information was solicited by Commissioner Meadows on May 1, 2014.
That it does. It appears that she was soliciting information from a constituent who would be able to provide her numbers which makes perfect sense. Although I opposed the boardwalk I think she was doing what she was asked to do to by either Mr Pauls or other constituents who wanted to see the boardwalk built. Seems, at least in my opinion, it was all above board.
Thanks
 

m1a1mg

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EDIT: This was for seaducer. Not sure why the quote didn't show up.

You certainly do think the worst of most people. I'm glad it lost, but agree with the sentiments of many that there needs to be more access on the east end. I live in BMB and the beach access is packed all the time. And it's not just with cars with FL plates.
 
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John G

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Jul 16, 2014
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If the county wants more Public Access, then they need to buck up and buy some land on the coast.

There was a time when it was being offered at a reasonable rate, but that time is gone.
 

Suzanne Harris

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I agree, the question is every time they approve new developments they need to be sure the prospective buyers know they have almost little if any beach access or parking. The BCC's in the past as well as this one have allowed building on every square foot of land with no plan for all of these people to access the beach or for drainage. Now we have a flooding problem with no plan on how to solve and we also have tourist fighting at Grayton for beach space to sit on and it will only get worse. There will be guards on the beach front owners beach property soon. GIVE US A PLAN, BCC before it is impossible to fix this mess . Knee jerk reactions will not solve these problems.
 
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