Must be something in FSU water?

[m1a1mg]

FSU is currently has the #4 ranked recruiting class by ESPN. Parents seem to look more for a ticket to the NFL than a quality program.

 

[Truman]

FSU is currently has the #4 ranked recruiting class by ESPN. Parents seem to look more for a ticket to the NFL than a quality program.

Yes they will continue to get kids with stars by their name. But they will be kids and parents who want to hide in Fisher's long shadow across the program. He will keep them on the field and out of jail.

 

[carson]

FSU is currently has the #4 ranked recruiting class by ESPN. Parents seem to look more for a ticket to the NFL than a quality program.

Where there is smoke...SC had excellent recruiting classes too, but a few missteps and they are still stuggling to get back to where they were 10 years ago. NCAA sanctions, or even the possibility of, deters a lot of kids from going to a university. Look at the number of SC athletes that have gone to the NFL the last few years compared to 10 years ago. My opinion is that it might not be this year, maybe not even 16, but when a program APPEARS to have some real fundamental problems, there probably are. We will see what ol Jimbo is made of next year.

 

[steel1man]

Where there is smoke...SC had excellent recruiting classes too, but a few missteps and they are still stuggling to get back to where they were 10 years ago. NCAA sanctions, or even the possibility of, deters a lot of kids from going to a university. Look at the number of SC athletes that have gone to the NFL the last few years compared to 10 years ago. My opinion is that it might not be this year, maybe not even 16, but when a program APPEARS to have some real fundamental problems, there probably are. We will see what ol Jimbo is made of next year.

check out Texas AM post Johnny Football

 

[mputnal]

Where there is smoke there is fire! Very interesting in that you are all burning an entire university program because of a successful football team. Many of you would make a good lynching mob back in the day where there was no due process. Bobby Bowden is even being called a criminal on this forum for dadgum sakes! Please tell me does Jimbo Fisher make it to that criminal category yet or does he need one more championship to qualify? Think about what you are saying and how you come to these conclusions. You WANT to believe that a successful football team is rotten to the core because it is not your team. As I said earlier these reactions that you are having to this media circus is a symptom of something not very good in our society. I have not told you what I really think is the underlying reasons for all this hate gone wild. There is an undercurrent of something inherently flawed in human behavior. It is something we want to believe is true yet there is no justification for it. Think about this in terms of black and white. The very beginnings of our democracy skirted around this issue. What are the facts? Is it that football players are all bad or is it that just FSU football players are all bad? Is it that all winning football programs are led by criminal minded coaches? Is it that all universities have complex issues in dealing with the balance between academics, athletics, codes of conduct, rights and privileges of all students, laws, media, student misbehavior, privacy and legal rights and punishment or is it that only FSU has this problem because of a desire to win football games? Think about why your opinion migrates toward the need to believe that FSU, Bobby Bowden, Jimbo Fisher, FSU supporters everywhere and of course the football players at FSU have criminal minded intent. Just go back and read the stuff in this forum. There is something else going on here and there is a monster involved but I will just skirt around it like all of you because I may not like what I see in the mirror...

 

[Seaducer]

Where there is smoke there is fire! Very interesting in that you are all burning an entire university program because of a successful football team. Many of you would make a good lynching mob back in the day where there was no due process. Bobby Bowden is even being called a criminal on this forum for dadgum sakes! Please tell me does Jimbo Fisher make it to that criminal category yet or does he need one more championship to qualify? Think about what you are saying and how you come to these conclusions. You WANT to believe that a successful football team is rotten to the core because it is not your team. As I said earlier these reactions that you are having to this media circus is a symptom of something not very good in our society. I have not told you what I really think is the underlying reasons for all this hate gone wild. There is an undercurrent of something inherently flawed in human behavior. It is something we want to believe is true yet there is no justification for it. Think about this in terms of black and white. The very beginnings of our democracy skirted around this issue. What are the facts? Is it that football players are all bad or is it that just FSU football players are all bad? Is it that all winning football programs are led by criminal minded coaches? Is it that all universities have complex issues in dealing with the balance between academics, athletics, codes of conduct, rights and privileges of all students, laws, media, student misbehavior, privacy and legal rights and punishment or is it that only FSU has this problem because of a desire to win football games? Think about why your opinion migrates toward the need to believe that FSU, Bobby Bowden, Jimbo Fisher, FSU supporters everywhere and of course the football players at FSU have criminal minded intent. Just go back and read the stuff in this forum. There is something else going on here and there is a monster involved but I will just skirt around it like all of you because I may not like what I see in the mirror...

I have a lot of friends that played D1, including at FSU, none of them care
as much as you, perhaps it's time for you to reevaluate the priorities in your
life, that reads like the Unibomber football manifesto...you sound like tons of
fun to watch a game with. You're not making them look less bizarre.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

OMG, I find myself agreeing with Ducer.

 

[Lake View Too]

Me too. Way too many paragraphs... It's just a game.

 

[Truman]

Me too. Way too many paragraphs... It's just a game.

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[bentley williams]

Yahoo Sports has joined the conspiracy against FSU


How Jimbo Fisher became the most disliked coach in America

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-ji...most-disliked-coach-in-america-151931804.html

but it doesn’t appear he was ready for this: life as America’s most despised coach, leader of what many consider a program that’s become a bad parody of everything wrong with the sport.

“A tremendous kid,” Fisher said last week of his starting running back, Karlos Williams, dismissing as absurd and reckless any media speculation that Williams might be suspended. “A tremendous ambassador.”

Turns out, Williams had been named as an associate of a man convicted in a summer drug deal turned robbery, where the victim identified Williams as the guy who would set up marijuana purchases. The Tallahassee Police Department politely (as is its way, apparently) requested a meeting with Williams, but he didn’t show and lawyered up.

Then hours after Fisher’s testimonial, the TPD was given a potential case of alleged domestic assault by Williams against a pregnant ex-girlfriend. He’s refusing to speak to police about that, too. Florida State has opened a Title IX investigation into it.

Williams will play against Louisville.

These things, unfortunately, happen. Every coach on every campus – every campus – sleeps lightly in fear of misbehaving players, everything ranging from felonies to frivolity. Yet most are capable of supporting their guy while not crossing the line into absurdity, being an authority figure, not an apologist; caring but not coddling.
Williams has been charged with no crimes, which should be repeated. Calling him a “tremendous kid” and a “tremendous ambassador” is, however, ridiculous to all but the most frenzied of FSU fans.


Unfortunately, that seems to be the only people Fisher is speaking to, perhaps so engulfed in the Tallahassee bubble he’s misreading the image he’s projecting to the public at large about his program and the university attached to it.


This follows a litany of over-the-top comments backing Jameis Winston. It ranges from the tone-deaf declaration that “there is no victim” in an alleged sexual assault that while legally true was just unnecessary and unbecoming. There was his claim that Winston’s never given him a reason to believe he’d ever lie, which made him sound like a naïve parent of a toddler.

Who around here is in the clown bubble?