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Mike Jones

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Dec 24, 2008
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The complications of moving the bike path to the south were fairly extreme. And, in all honesty, I really have a lot of sympathy for the people who own property on the south side. Many of these people bought their piece of heaven in the fifties, and have had their property chipped away by hurricanes and development ever since.

That being said, my thoughts still lean towards re-routing the bike path down Grove Street, or creating a grand, showpiece flyover bike and pedestrian bridge. The Gateway to 30-A! Just dreaming...
I think it's more about them wanting to put a bigger house on their lot. I don't have one second of sympathy for someone who levels dunes to build. Or anyone who buys a house where there was once a dune.

Moving the bike path is not that big a deal and is by far the best solution for traffic flow but more importantly - SAFETY.

Not moving the bike path to the south side makes no sense. We will suffer this mistake forever. A few owners' desires are taking precedence over countless numbers of people for generations to come.
 

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Mike, the houses in question did not level any dunes. They were built on the natural bluff. They have been there for over fifty years. They have been incredibly gracious to the natural environment. You do realize the bike path is on the north side from approximately whiskey bravo to watercolor. Were you proposing to re-route in through the entirety of Seagrove and Seaside?
 

Mike Jones

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Mike, the houses in question did not level any dunes. They were built on the natural bluff. They have been there for over fifty years. They have been incredibly gracious to the natural environment. You do realize the bike path is on the north side from approximately whiskey bravo to watercolor. Were you proposing to re-route in through the entirety of Seagrove and Seaside?
Respectfully, your line of reasoning is what has ruined our natural ecology (except areas protected by the state). On the emerald coast anything fronting the beach is part of a dune system. Almost everywhere, we have allowed building too close to the gulf, ruining the system and our enjoyment of nature. Our ecosystem has been taken away from us, the beach is being taken from us. But that's not enough for the greedy. Now our right of ways are being taken from us. Just look at all the illegal no parking signs popping up in our area on our right of ways.

This deal stinks.

As for your second part, there is not a bike path through Seaside, it is only a sidewalk unfortunately. It would be easy to move the bike path to the south side. Would it be a pain for those living on the south? Yes. But why inconvenience billions, and risk all of our safety, for a few privileged, politically connected few.

Having a crossing on the north side of 30A at 395 causes 10 times the traffic backup than if it were on the south side. Makes no sense whatsoever.
 

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Mike, I've been visiting Seagrove since 1957, and those 5 houses in Seagrove did nothing to destroy the ecosystem. A lot of what has transpired since then has done damage. Is this those people's fault? Those families have tried to preserve the nature of Seagrove more than anybody. By the way, they had no involvement with the Viridian, and this deal will help insure that the north east sector of that intersection remains the Grove for which this town is named.
 

Mike Jones

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Mike, I've been visiting Seagrove since 1957, and those 5 houses in Seagrove did nothing to destroy the ecosystem. A lot of what has transpired since then has done damage. Is this those people's fault? Those families have tried to preserve the nature of Seagrove more than anybody. By the way, they had no involvement with the Viridian, and this deal will help insure that the north east sector of that intersection remains the Grove for which this town is named.
EBSCO >< Stephens, Haring, et al >< Viridian

If you don't understand how building on top of dunes so close to the gulf destroys our ecosystem then the discussion ends. Our coastal ecosystem goes back millions of years before 1957. It didn't take long to destroy it. Just an afternoon with a bulldozer.
 

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Those five houses did not destroy the ecosystem. Anymore than the house you live in destroyed the ecosystem. I've lived here for over thirty years and seen all the damage I would ever care to see. To point an accusing finger at five houses is nuts.

Haring and Harley did have a group of investors and the Stephens may have been contributing members but from my recollection they were against the Viridian.

It's pointless to rant against development at this point. Maybe, if you and I had not moved here,there would be, at least, two less dummies contributing to the demise of the ecosystem.
 

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I was joking, earlier, about drones. I'm not joking about the suggestion of a bike path fly-over. It could be beautiful. It could be a graceful focal point, a gateway to 30-A. It could be a graceful concrete arch, but it, perhaps, could be dressed out in timber, a symbol of Seagrove. We have outstanding, local, architects who should latch on to this concept. My two cents.
 
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Dawn

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I was joking, earlier, about drones. I'm not joking about the suggestion of a bike path fly-over. It could be beautiful. It could be a graceful focal point, a gateway to 30-A. It could be a graceful concrete arch, but it, perhaps, could be dressed out in timber, a symbol of Seagrove. We have outstanding, local, architects who should latch on to this concept. My two cents.
I think it would have to be extremely long to make it so it wasn't too steep to bike it.
 
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