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[Lou Deman]

Do you support DeSantis's abuse of power in our education system? I assume we agree on abuse of power right? Your answers may explain.

You care about Pelosi's Park but no so much trumps bankruptcies? Yes please explain.

I do not think that decision was "in line" with equal rights for women. If you want a vasectomy then you can have one. If a woman wants or needs an abortion she should have access to one in her State.

Explain what you mean by his abuse of power so we are on the same page. I am against abuse of power

Pelosi park is giving $200 million federal taxpayer dollars for a local park that shoud be funded at the local level, that is wrong. Trump declaring bankruptcy hurt his ability to borrow future personal monies and forfeiting whatever collateral he borrowed against, this is a personal matter. These 2 issues are not even closely related in any way

I'm not granted a right to a vasectomy (or any medical procedure (more to your point)) by the constitution. If you want abortions to be a constitutional right then they need to amend the constitution, the ten amendment is clear on this. Like I stated earlier I am not anti abortion but I am against killing unborn babies. If possible tell me where you are on this issue on a moral level, when do you think life begins or do you think that unborn person doesn't have a right to life until after it is born. I do not even know my own stance on this, I think it is when there is a heartbeat but I haven't (and to an extent wanted to) research this enough to formulate a ridged opinion yet. If you care, I think abortions should be federally legal in the case of rape and incest

 

[Lou Deman]

Yes, withholding the aid was not within his powers to do so. It was approved by Congress, approved by everybody including Department of State, and Department of Defense. The only reason he wasn’t convicted was that the GQP senators were spineless. Maybe spineless doesn’t quite work. Corrupt is more like it. The corruption of the Trump administration will be legendary in years to come.

Actually it is within the presidents power (Impoundment Control Act of 74). Are you saying he should be convicted of withholding aide? Should other presidents that have done it also be convicted?

 

[Leader of the Banned]

Explain what you mean by his abuse of power so we are on the same page. I am against abuse of power

Pelosi park is giving $200 million federal taxpayer dollars for a local park that shoud be funded at the local level, that is wrong. Trump declaring bankruptcy hurt his ability to borrow future personal monies and forfeiting whatever collateral he borrowed against, this is a personal matter. These 2 issues are not even closely related in any way

I'm not granted a right to a vasectomy (or any medical procedure (more to your point)) by the constitution. If you want abortions to be a constitutional right then they need to amend the constitution, the ten amendment is clear on this. Like I stated earlier I am not anti abortion but I am against killing unborn babies. If possible tell me where you are on this issue on a moral level, when do you think life begins or do you think that unborn person doesn't have a right to life until after it is born. I do not even know my own stance on this, I think it is when there is a heartbeat but I haven't (and to an extent wanted to) research this enough to formulate a ridged opinion yet. If you care, I think abortions should be federally legal in the case of rape and incest

I think even today's MAGASCOTUS would agree that the 14th Amendment grants you a right to a vasectomy.

 

[Lou Deman]

Lou could probably retire at 51 if he'd quit trolling.

Leeboy,
I had to look up what trolling is, I'm a little old for the term.

An internet troll, or online bully, deliberately tries to offend, cause trouble or directly attack people by posting derogatory comments on Facebook posts, blogs, under YouTube videos, on forums and other social media, such as Twitter and Instagram.

I am not trying to offend anyone
I never get personal until it is done to me
My goal here is very simple, I am trying to understand why people on the left think like they do. I have a couple of friends on the left and I cannot figure them out at all. I also know the door swings both ways. Talking to people on the right doesn't help me because I already know their stance.
I try to judge each issue on its own merit
I hate the 2 party system because it doesn't allow for enough mobility
I differ from my side on many issues, the largest of which being immigration

The numbers don't work for me until 52 or 53 but I'm trying

 

[Lou Deman]

I think he thought this was going to be easy, but it seems he has dug himself into a hole he can't get out of. He's probably learning something.

What did I think was going to be easy? I can assure you I am not in a hole because I would have to value your opinion in order to do so. I like that Mput and LVT seem to want to keep it civil enough to converse. I even like matts input even though I don't care for his personally.

I am here to learn

 

[Lou Deman]

According to SCOTUS and most of the American public, for nearly 50 years it wasn't a reach.

Well as long as the public agrees...

 

[Leader of the Banned]

What did I think was going to be easy? I can assure you I am not in a hole because I would have to value your opinion in order to do so. I like that Mput and LVT seem to want to keep it civil enough to converse. I even like matts input even though I don't care for his personally.

I am here to learn

You clearly don't value facts as well.

 

[Lou Deman]

I guess you don’t understand that, whether he declassified all these thousands of documents, which he cannot prove, it is still a felony for him to have ever taken them to his night club. He has admitted he had the documents. That's a felony. It has been proven that he didn’t return them as he earlier stated. Therefore, he is guilty of obstruction. Also a felony. They may not get him for espionage, but they had enough probable cause to include that in the affidavit for search warrant. By the way, claiming he didn't move physically himself is really humorous. Documents were found in his desk. You come off as rather pathetic to keep making up stories to defend this guy. You and Guliani should have some drinks together.

LVT
I have no idea if he classified them or not, I am simply saying he had the right to while he was in office. I don't know if it was a felony for him to take them to his night club, I will concede he shouldn't have taken them at all. It is my understanding that the records department went to his home to go through his stuff and he let them take what they wanted (I do not know this as truth). Trumps lawyers said the records dept are the ones that recommended he secure the closet they were kept in (that is why there was a padlock on an interior door) the lawyer also stated this is confirmable through email (I do not know if this is true). As far as the search warrant they should have done it with more class. All they did was kick up the Trump hornet nest, which doesn't really help anyone. As far as coming off pathetic your opinion is your opinion. I've met Giuliani when I was in college, not my cup of tea, New Yorkers can be tough to like

 

[Lou Deman]

You clearly don't value facts as well.

Excellent job on making your point PD

 

[Lou Deman]

I think even today's MAGASCOTUS would agree that the 14th Amendment grants you a right to a vasectomy.

You don't need a constitutional right to get a vasectomy