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Coastal Resort Mrket - How did we get here?

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July 20 Coastal News Blog

Resort Real Estate Just Coasting along

Are We There Yet?

After 6 years of interesting growth and decline, do we know where we are? Are we "off-track" or just in another cycle that has taken a lower than usual dip to the south? How you read the answer will depend on the reason for heading to the coast in the first place.

Coastal-Edge perspective on where we are and how we got here...
A roadmap explaining where the coastal resort industry is headed isn't necessary for the locals. These are the individuals who have chosen to migrate to the coast for non-market-related reasons: the sea breeze, morning walks on powder white sand, and remarkable sunsets. These individuals are exactly where they want to be - at the beach. The locals, or end-users, are coastal resort investors who are commited to the community. Their return on investment begins the day they set foot at the beach. But there is another set of individuals who head coastward for an entirely different reason - for the sake of investment.

Clearly, it's still true that investing in coastal resort property is one of the wisest long-term investments one can make, but many individuals invested with high stakes expecting outrageous short-term return. When the market suddenly spiraled out of control it pulled many of those investors down with it.

The Road to Ruin: Wall Street
When the already troubled stock market (decline began shortly after Y2K or 2000) took another deeper, fear induced plunge after 9/11/2001, financially driven investors sought out brick and mortar investments. They were looking for something solid that they knew would stand should the stock market fail. So they headed to the one place where they could invest in their own future - Real estate. Those investors knew little to nothing about real estate, they were stock market "junkies" who needed a new investment fix. What started out as a very wise choice ended up taking the entire country down a long and difficult road.

The Feeding Frenzy
In the beginning, these investors began wisely buying up the most pristine properties, but they soon went back to their old habits. The minute they saw an increase in value, they began to "flip" their coastal and resort property as if it were stock. Buying, selling; buying, selling. Much of the most beautiful and sought after resort markets were being bought up by people who didn't know or care anything about it. The coastal resort market went crazy, and the investors wanted more.

Many "new" developers appeared on the horizon wanting bigger pieces of the pie. They built countless communities for "ghost dwellers" -- those frenzied Wall Street speculators. These speculators would drive up demand by buying entire blocks, 10-20 units, at a time without any intention of living in them; they bought them to "flip" them.


Many developers didn't realize what was happening, they only saw increased demand. They didn't realize that there may only be one end-user for every 10 units they built. They began submitting new plans, new applications for bigger financing and numerous permit requests. The lenders and banks jumped onboard -- BIG TIME. This was the ultimate doom for the industry, but not before the rest of the country came along for the ride. The stock market began to rebound on the tails of a robust real estate market, and everything looked great.

Clarification:
Of course there were, and are the legitimate builders. The true "place makers" and visioneers, but the industry suffered because of the many who just looked toward the immediate bottom line - a familiar Wall Street trend.

Scenario - Katrina.
August to December 2005 started the beginning of the end for the real estate boom. A hurricane blew the real estate industry into a new kind of frenzy -- an old-fashioned Wall Street "sell-off."

After hurricane Katrina, all those "ghost dwellers" or non-committal Wall Street flippers panicked -- as they always do when there's a national crisis. They began to sell off their real estate holdings as if they were penny stocks. They didn't honor contracts; they had no intention of living in those tens of thousands of spec homes and condos. This was all about investment and money. It wasn't that coastal real estate soured or turned bleak, but it was the actions of speculation that cast clouds of uncertainty. It was the speculators who didn't understand the unmistakable value of the coast, and refused to appreciate it for what it has to offer.

The developers were left with useless paper and no cash, and the real consumers who had a dream were left with unmet promises and the banks and lenders were caught with their pants down.

How did this all spread inland?
A boom is a boom. Inland developers saw what was happening on the coast and figured this was just a natural surge. Sadly they were wrong. Million dollar spec homes were now easy to build because the banks had seen so much money being infused into the marketplace, the banks and lenders totally lost their senses.

Conclusion
Real estate needs to be treated as just that REAL estate. REAL buyers, with REAL money, and REAL jobs -- REALity.

Back to the beginning -- Are we there yet? For those who still have dreams of migrating or retiring to warmer climates and balmy sea breezes, hold on to your dreams. Those falsely inflated prices by our bubble-blowing friends on Wall Street have been falling back down to almost reasonable again. On the present course, it wont be long until the cycle returns to a slightly new "normal."

The coast is still beautiful, the sunsets are still just as magnificent and there is definitely a LARGE supply of coastal properties from which to choose.

The true "place makers" and visioneers will continue to plan, invest, build and develop, and Coastal-Edge will continue to provide market intelligence: the key is to "know before you grow."

In the end, it is the opinion of Coastal-Edge that coastal and resort real estate is still just as valuable as before - the breeze is still balmy, the sand still washes between your toes as you walk down the beach and the sun still sets in blankets of gold, orange, red and purple. The coast is more than getting the biggest bang for the buck; it's a wonderful way of life.

Coastal-Edge will continue to monitor the news and keep you up-to-date on the latest.


Below: Chronological look at the Dow and the construction industry



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30ashopper avatar
SoWal Insider
#77
I also think that to get get exactly what you want you may pay a little more then what you want to. If this is a long term plan it should be OK. I think that would be better then buying a property you don't like as much at a discount and watching your dream property be built on by someone else that loved it and was willing to pay a little more.

I think if you find the property of your dreams, and it's at price you can afford and feels reasonable, you should buy it. But buyers in this market should not feel as if their dream home is about to pass them by because somebody else is going to buy up the last good property next weekend. We need to remember, this is currently a buyer’s market. Sellers are at the mercy of those interested in purchasing because they are no longer the minority. This won’t change any time soon regardless of what community buyers are interested in. The only sellers out there with any kind of advantage are those that drop their price below comps - their advantage being they are at the top of the current sell list. The rest are left sitting around hoping someone falls in love with their property who offers close to what they owe before the bank takes it away. Buyers however have all the time in the world and should not feel compelled to jump until they are ready.

2009 is not 2005, or 2004, or 2003 or even 2002 or even 2001. Everyone involved should try and rinse the old mindset away and recognize that the fun filled, adrenaline inducing, halcyon days of the real-estate bubble are over. Anyone who tells you otherwise is, well, probably working on commission. :biggrin:

What we can expect over the next few years or so is the resumption of a normal, (non-artificial) free market where sellers compete on price and buyers haggle over the best deals. IMHO that's something we should all be thankful for. God forbid we somehow end up back where we started, which ultimately brought us to the precipice we're currently standing on.

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Kurt avatar
Admin
#78
Believe it or not. There are people actually making a profit in real estate this year. Not me, but people. :D
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#79
In fact, rushing in today will likely result in an investment you'll take a loss on over the next year or two.

You have some key words in that sentence. "Rushing in" very well could get one into trouble, as we still have somewhere around 85-90% of over-priced listings. "Buying now" doesn't mean one is "rushing in." I've been working with some buyers for as long as two years. On a daily basis, I run searches for them. We've looked at many properties over that time. When they put in their offer, their purchase decision will be well-researched, and they will not be likely to "take a loss over the next year or two." They will wait until they find the right property for them, which makes good financial sense, too. They are not looking for a quick re-sell. If they were just "jumping in," and bought the first property they looked at, I think you are right that they would be upside down a year from now. Let's just remember that gains and losses are not realized until the property is sold.

In summary, none of my buyers are "rushing in." They are well-researched and have been watching the market for a long time. They recognize over-priced properties when they see them, and they are making comparative decisions, looking at all alternatives such as cost to build new, possibility of cash flow, etc.
Bobby J avatar
Beach Fanatic
#80
I think if you find the property of your dreams, and it's at price you can afford and feels reasonable, you should buy it.

This would be my point.

Just because I work off a commission does not mean I work unethically. I sell property for a living. I will not hesitate to tell someone not to buy something. One deal does not make or break a good agent. We do transactions and at the end of the year, we add it all up. I would have to agree also with SJ. I have not seen anyone "rushing in" for a long time. BTW, the buyer seems to be very sophisticated and they were not buying in 2004, 2005.
Bobby J avatar
Beach Fanatic
#81
I think we've officially seen the bottom on prices when a couple of investment funds sweep through South Walton like a swarm of locusts.

Not swarming yet but they are here;-).
Beach Fanatic
#82
Shelly is showing incredible restraint. Hope she isn't ill.
Bobby J avatar
Beach Fanatic
#83
Shelly is showing incredible restraint. Hope she isn't ill.

She is gathering evidence. :cool: Hmmmmm.....
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#84
Even Shelly may like the deals I saw today -- Cash flowing (positive) homes in South Walton. When did anyone think that would happen again?
Beach Fanatic
#85
actually that never stopped happening.
Wonder why someone would sell a cash positive re asset? Tired of making $$$?

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Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#86
Busta, what do you mean that it never stopped happening? Are you saying that people have always been able to buy cash flowing properties in SoWal? Or, are you saying some existing (not for sale) properties cash flow?

I know of only a handful which are currently for sale which provide a positive cash flow and those types of properties haven't been available for a long time.

Why would someone want to give up cash flowing properties? Maybe they couldn't cash flow with the current buyer because the current buyer bought too high, and now they are short selling. Or, maybe they are bank owned and the banks don't want to be landlords. Or, maybe someone needs to sell due to financial hardship such as unexpected medical expense or divorce. Maybe they just want to free up capital to buy an RV. Plenty of reasons.

In the properties to which I refer, they current owner is not cash flowing, but at the listing price, they will cash flow for the new buyer.
melscuba avatar
Beach Fanatic
#87
Busta, what do you mean that it never stopped happening? Are you saying that people have always been able to buy cash flowing properties in SoWal? Or, are you saying some existing (not for sale) properties cash flow?

I know of only a handful which are currently for sale which provide a positive cash flow and those types of properties haven't been available for a long time.

Why would someone want to give up cash flowing properties? Maybe they couldn't cash flow with the current buyer because the current buyer bought too high, and now they are short selling. Or, maybe they are bank owned and the banks don't want to be landlords. Or, maybe someone needs to sell due to financial hardship such as unexpected medical expense or divorce. Maybe they just want to free up capital to buy an RV. Plenty of reasons.

In the properties to which I refer, they current owner is not cash flowing, but at the listing price, they will cash flow for the new buyer.

Where?
Beach Fanatic
#88
In the properties to which I refer, they current owner is not cash flowing, but at the listing price, they will cash flow for the new buyer.


okay now i see what you mean. there were "those 3 years" that they were hard to find. Let's never speak of that time again.
TooFarTampa avatar
SoWal Insider
#89
She is gathering evidence. :cool: Hmmmmm.....

"she?" c'mon ... :biggrin:

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