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The US War - Five Years On

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Since the discussion is on-topic, here is an intellectually honest look at the war on terrorism. This is an article I saved from 9/12/06.

The U.S. War, Five Years On
By George Friedman

It has been five years since the Sept. 11 attacks. In thinking about the course of the war against al Qaeda, two facts emerge pre-eminent.

The first is that the war has succeeded far better than anyone would have thought on Sept. 12, 2001. We remember that day clearly, and had anyone told us that there would be no more al Qaeda attacks in the United States for at least five years, we would have been incredulous. Yet there have been no attacks.

The second fact is that the U.S. intervention in the Islamic world has not achieved its operational goals. There are multiple insurgencies under way in Iraq, and the United States does not appear to have sufficient force or strategic intent to suppress them. In Afghanistan, the Taliban has re-emerged as a powerful fighting force. It is possible that the relatively small coalition force -- a force much smaller than that fielded by the defeated Soviets in Afghanistan -- can hold it at bay, but clearly coalition troops cannot annihilate it.

A Strategic Response

The strategic goal of the United States on Sept. 12, 2001, was to prevent any further attacks within the United States. Al Qaeda, defined as the original entity that orchestrated the 1998 attacks against the U.S. embassies in Africa, the USS Cole strike and 9/11, has been thrown into disarray and has been unable to mount a follow-on attack without being detected and disrupted. Other groups, loosely linked to al Qaeda or linked only by name or shared ideology, have carried out attacks, but none have been as daring and successful as 9/11.

In response to 9/11, the United States resorted to direct overt and covert intervention throughout the Islamic world. With the first intervention, in Afghanistan, the United States and coalition forces disrupted al Qaeda's base of operations, destabilized the group and forced it on the defensive. Here also, the stage was set for a long guerrilla war that the United States cannot win with the forces available.

The invasion of Iraq, however incoherent the Bush administration's explanation of it might be, achieved two things. First, it convinced Saudi Arabia of the seriousness of American resolve and caused the Saudis to become much more aggressive in cooperating with U.S. intelligence. Second, it allowed the United States to occupy the most strategic ground in the Middle East -- bordering on Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria and Iran. From here, the United States was able to pose overt threats and to stage covert operations against al Qaeda. Yet by invading Iraq, the United States also set the stage for the current military crisis.

The U.S. strategy was to disrupt al Qaeda in three ways:

1. Bring the intelligence services of Muslim states -- through persuasion, intimidation or coercion -- to provide intelligence that was available only to them on al Qaeda's operations.

2. By invading Afghanistan and Iraq, use main force to disrupt al Qaeda and to intimidate and coerce Islamic states. In other words, use Operation 2 to achieve Operation 1.

3. Use the intelligence gained by these methods to conduct a range of covert operations throughout the world, including in the United States itself, to disrupt al Qaeda operations.

The problem, however, was this. The means used to compel cooperation with the intelligence services in countries such as Pakistan or Saudi Arabia involved actions that, while successful in the immediate intent, left U.S. forces exposed on a battleground where the correlation of forces, over time, ceased to favor the United States. In other words, while the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq did achieve their immediate ends and did result in effective action against al Qaeda, the outcome was to expose the U.S. forces to exhausting counterinsurgency that they were not configured to win.

Hindsight: The Search for an Ideal Strategy

The ideal outcome likely would have been to carry out the first and third operations without the second. As many would argue, an acceptable outcome would have been to carry out the Afghanistan operation without going into Iraq. This is the crux of the debate that has been raging since the Iraq invasion and that really began earlier, during the Afghan war, albeit in muted form. On the one side, the argument is that by invading Muslim countries, the United States has played into al Qaeda's hands and actually contributed to radicalization among Islamists -- and that by refraining from invasion, the Americans would have reduced the threat posed by al Qaeda. On the other side, the argument has been made that without these two invasions -- the one for direct tactical reasons, the other for psychological and political reasons -- al Qaeda would be able to operate securely and without effective interference from U.S. intelligence and that, therefore, these invasions were the price to be paid.

There are three models, then, that have been proposed as ideals:

1. The United States should have invaded neither Afghanistan nor Iraq, but instead should have relied entirely on covert measures (with various levels of restraint suggested) to defeat al Qaeda.

2. The United States should have invaded Afghanistan to drive out al Qaeda and disrupt the organization, but should not have invaded Iraq.

3. The United States needed to invade both Iraq and Afghanistan -- the former for strategic reasons and to intimidate key players, the latter to disrupt al Qaeda operations and its home base.

It is interesting to pause and consider that the argument is rarely this clear-cut. Those arguing for Option 1 rarely explain how U.S. covert operations would be carried out, and frequently oppose those operations as well. Those who make the second argument fail to explain how, given that the command cell of al Qaeda had escaped Afghanistan, the United States would continue the war -- or more precisely, where the Americans would get the intelligence to fight a covert war. Those who argue for the third course -- the Bush administration -- rarely explain precisely what the strategic purpose of the war was.

In fact, 9/11 created a logic that drove the U.S. responses. Before any covert war could be launched, al Qaeda's operational structure had to be disrupted -- at the very least, to buy time before another attack. Therefore, an attack in Afghanistan had to come first (and did, commencing about a month after 9/11). Calling this an invasion, of course, would be an error: The United States borrowed forces from Russian and Iranian allies in Afghanistan -- and that, coupled with U.S. air power, forced the Taliban out of the cities to disperse, regroup and restart the war later.

Covert War and a Logical Progression

The problem that the United States had with commencing covert operations against al Qaeda was weakness in its intelligence system. To conduct a covert war, you must have excellent intelligence -- and U.S. intelligence on al Qaeda in the wake of 9/11 was not good enough to sustain a global covert effort. The best intelligence on al Qaeda, simply given the nature of the group as well as its ideology, was in the hands of the Pakistanis and the Saudis. At the very least, Islamic governments were more likely to have accumulated the needed intelligence than the CIA was.

The issue was in motivating these governments to cooperate with the U.S. effort. The Saudis in particular were dubious about U.S. will, given previous decades of behavior. Officials in Riyadh frankly were more worried about al Qaeda's behavior within Saudi Arabia if they collaborated with the Americans than they were about the United States acting resolutely. Recall that the Saudis asked U.S. forces to leave Saudi Arabia after 9/11. Changing the kingdom's attitude was a necessary precursor to waging the covert war, just as Afghanistan was a precursor to changing attitudes in Pakistan.

Invading Iraq was a way for the United States to demonstrate will, while occupying strategic territory to bring further pressure against countries like Syria. It was also a facilitator for a global covert war. The information the Saudis started to provide after the U.S. invasion was critical in disrupting al Qaeda operations. And the Saudis did, in fact, pay the price for collaboration: Al Qaeda rose up against the regime, staging its first attack in the kingdom in May 2003, and was repressed.

In this sense, we can see a logical progression. Invading Afghanistan disrupted al Qaeda operations there and forced Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf to step up cooperation with the United States. Invading Iraq reshaped Saudi thinking and put the United States in a position to pressure neighboring countries. The two moves together increased U.S. intelligence capabilities decisively and allowed it to disrupt al Qaeda.

But it also placed U.S. forces in a strategically difficult position. Any U.S. intervention in Asia, it has long been noted, places the United States at a massive disadvantage. U.S. troops inevitably will be outnumbered. They also will be fighting on an enemy's home turf, far away from everything familiar and comfortable. If forced into a political war, in which the enemy combatants use the local populace to hide themselves -- and if that populace is itself hostile to the Americans -- the results can be extraordinarily unpleasant. Thus, the same strategy that allowed the United States to disrupt al Qaeda also placed U.S. forces in strategically difficult positions in two theaters of operation.

Mission Creep and Crisis

The root problem was that the United States did not crisply define the mission in either Iraq or Afghanistan. Obviously, the immediate purpose was to create an environment in which al Qaeda was disrupted and the intelligence services of Muslim states felt compelled to cooperate with the United States. But by revising the mission upward -- from achieving these goals to providing security to rooting out Baathism and the Taliban, then to providing security against insurgents and even to redefining these two societies as democracies -- the United States overreached. The issue was not whether democracy is desirable; the issue was whether the United States had sufficient forces at hand to reshape Iraqi and Afghan societies in the face of resistance.

If the Americans had not at first expected resistance, they certainly discovered that they were facing it shortly after taking control of the major cities of each country. At that moment, they had to make a basic decision between pursuing the United States' own interests or defining the interest as transforming Afghan and Iraqi society. At the moment Washington chose transformation, it had launched into a task it could not fulfill -- or, if it could fulfill it, would be able to do so only with enormously more force than it placed in either country. When we consider that 300,000 Soviet troops could not subdue Afghanistan, we get a sense of how large a force would have been needed.

The point here is this: The means used by the United States to cripple al Qaeda also created a situation that was inherently dangerous to the United States. Unless the mission had been parsed precisely -- with the United States doing what it needed to do to disrupt al Qaeda but not overreaching itself -- the outcome would be what we see now. It is, of course, easy to say that the United States should have intervened, achieved its goals and left each country in chaos; it is harder to do. Nevertheless, the United States intervened, did not leave the countries and still has chaos. That can be said with hindsight. Acting so callously with foresight is more difficult.

There remains the question of whether the United States could have crippled al Qaeda without invading Iraq -- a move that still would have left Afghanistan in its current state, but which would seem to have been better than the situation now at hand. The answer to that question rests on two elements. First, it is simply not clear that the Saudis' appreciation of the situation, prior to March 2003, would have moved them to cooperate, and extensive diplomacy over the subject prior to the invasion had left the Americans reasonably convinced that the Saudis could do more. Advocates of diplomacy would have to answer the question of what more the United States could have done on that score. Now, perhaps, over time the United States could have developed its own intelligence sources within al Qaeda. But time was exactly what the United States did not have.

But most important, the U.S. leadership underestimated the consequences of an invasion. They set their goals as high as they did because they did not believe that the Iraqis would resist -- and when resistance began, they denied that it involved anything more than the ragtag remnants of the old regime. Their misreading of Iraq was compounded with an extraordinary difficulty in adjusting their thinking as reality unfolded.

But even without the administration's denial, we can see in hindsight that the current crisis was hardwired into the strategy. If the United States wanted to destroy al Qaeda, it had to do things that would suck it into the current situation -- unless it was enormously skilled and nimble, which it certainly was not. In the end, the primary objective -- defending the homeland -- was won at the cost of trying to achieve goals in Iraq and Afghanistan that cannot be achieved.

In the political debate that is raging today in the United States, our view is that both sides are quite wrong. The administration's argument for building democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan misses the point that the United States cannot be successful in this, because it lacks the force to carry out the mission. The administration's critics, who argue that Iraq particularly diverted attention from fighting al Qaeda, fail to appreciate the complex matrix of relationships the United States was trying to adjust with its invasion of Iraq.

The administration is incapable of admitting that it has overreached and led U.S. forces into an impossible position. Its critics fail to understand the intricate connections between the administration's various actions and the failure of al Qaeda to strike inside the United States for five years.

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Teresa avatar
SoWal Guide
#127
Only if BDarg constructs a bottle proof cage (ala' Blues Brothers) for those of us on the right to sit in. :funn:

my friends on the left are all lovers, never fighters. :wub:
30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#128
my friends on the left are all lovers, never fighters. :wub:

Yeah, r-i-g-h-t! Did you see the whack jobs throwing rocks at Rove last week? Or the effigy roast in (I think) Portland last month? Mean little doves, I am telling you:roll:
Bdarg avatar
Beach Fanatic
#129
Only if BDarg constructs a bottle proof cage (ala' Blues Brothers) for those of us on the right to sit in. :funn:

It appears as though a reason proof cage has already been constructed by those on the far right in which they are attempting to stand on a rather empty soapbox! :roll: 😀
Teresa avatar
SoWal Guide
#130
Yeah, r-i-g-h-t! Did you see the whack jobs throwing rocks at Rove last week? Or the effigy roast in (I think) Portland last month? Mean little doves, I am telling you:roll:

I don't know who those people are. not my friends. but I'm sure they had good reason... 😀 JK skunk! there is never good reason for bad manners.


It appears as though a reason proof cage has already been constructed by those on the far right in which they are attempting to stand on a rather empty soapbox! :roll: 😀

:clap_1: bdarg, you are too clever.
Jdarg avatar
SoWal Expert
#131
Yeah, r-i-g-h-t! Did you see the whack jobs throwing rocks at Rove last week? Or the effigy roast in (I think) Portland last month? Mean little doves, I am telling you:roll:

Good thing Punzy has an alibi.:floor: Or I would have guessed it was her!;-)
Uncle Timmy avatar
Beach Fanatic
#132
But my poll is more recent and has twice the power. Ahhh, screw it. By the way, I was wondering last night how well the Uncle Timmy Doctrine would have gone over at those She-yite demonstrations yesterday:lol:

OMG! The Uncle Timmy Doctrine.

In a nutshell:

Our nation has a very vunerable Achilles? Heal ?our dependence on imported oil- A sizable portion of which comes from the Mid-East. There is simply no other threat to our national security greater than the loss of this energy supply. Yes, greater even than the threat from terrorism. Therefore our policies should reflect this threat first and foremost. Primarily by:
a. Working to maintain an uninterrupted flow of this energy supply.
b. Working towards an independence from this reliance on imported energy.

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We are very vunerable to the loss of oil supplied from the Mid-East. Chickpea has offered an insightful article on the growing rise of the Shia Cresent which threatens the Sunni dominated governments friendly to the west. That certainly represents a real threat to these countries, and we should note ?is directly attributable to Bush?s policies.

Anti-American sentiment is also extremely relevant. Anyone who wants to look up an historical example of what happens when the US aggressively backs a leader from a country with growing anti-American sentiment, please refer to The Iranian Revolution, 1979. We can only push the Anti-US sentiment so far until the disconnect between these leaders and their people reaches a critical point.

In conclusion as to the original article: The Iraq war cannot be justified by the fact that we haven?t suffered any terrorist attacks in the past 5 years when one considers the potential damage to our long tern interests as outlined above.
6thGen avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#133
Well done, Uncle Timmy. You've ignored everything I posted, avoided discussion, and called me arrogant and ill-informed. Duplicity is thy middle name.
Bdarg avatar
Beach Fanatic
#134
Well done, Uncle Timmy. You've ignored everything I posted, avoided discussion, and called me arrogant and ill-informed. Duplicity is thy middle name.




Therefore, he must have stuck to the facts.

Way to go Uncle Timmy.
6thGen avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#135
Also, UT, are you denying that the Middle East has a more violent history than, well, any civilization?
6thGen avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#136
Therefore, he must have stuck to the facts.

Way to go Uncle Timmy.

So you don't have anything to add either, cheerleader?
Bdarg avatar
Beach Fanatic
#137
So you don't have anything to add either, cheerleader?

Facts are facts, why post them twice?
TooFarTampa avatar
SoWal Insider
#138
Facts are facts, why post them twice?

I think he's looking for a couple more people to jump in so he can brag about being able to take all of you on with half his brain tied behind his back.

I just had a chance to read this entire thread, and am impressed with the depth of the knowledge and analysis here on all sides. If this has not been a suitably intellectually honest debate, 6thgen, then what is? If it is something else I guess you will not find it here, so then why are you still here?

Really not trying to drive you away, just wondering. Thanks for starting this thread, I've taken much from it. I can't help but wonder whether our incurious leader bothered to parse things this carefully before jumping into Iraq. My guess is he stuck to the talking points only. Much more here than talking points. Nice job everyone.

I have nothing else to add, so I guess that makes me a cheerleader. :floor:
kathydwells avatar
Darlene is my middle name, not my nickname
#139
I think he's looking for a couple more people to jump in so he can brag about being able to take all of you on with half his brain tied behind his back.

I just had a chance to read this entire thread, and am impressed with the depth of the knowledge and analysis here on all sides. If this has not been a suitably intellectually honest debate, 6thgen, then what is? If it is something else I guess you will not find it here, so then why are you still here?

Really not trying to drive you away, just wondering. Thanks for starting this thread, I've taken much from it. I can't help but wonder whether our incurious leader bothered to parse things this carefully before jumping into Iraq. My guess is he stuck to the talking points only. Much more here than talking points. Nice job everyone.

I have nothing else to add, so I guess that makes me a cheerleader. :floor:

And I was wondering if 6thgen ever got to the beach to relax, see a beautiful sunset, a beautiful moonrise....it is medicine for the soul. :cool:
meigsart avatar
Beach Lover
#140
Very interesting reading. I have been watching a lot of very interesting documentaries lately about the media involvement during the first years of the war and its effect on public sentiment. Between 1997 and 2005 the FCC, the rulers of the airwaves was run by a commissioner named Michael Powell, Colin's son...how bizarre.
6thGen avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#141
I did some digging and this is the only non pom-pom post I found for darg.

"6th Gen, I am believe that you have confused ?Intellectually Honesty? with Dr. Friedman being Intellectually Systematic?there is a distinct difference. Dr. Friedman while he is very intellectually systematic looses his intellectual honesty as he nears his conclusion. He paints himself into an intellectual corner and is then forced to ignore much of his premise: much like the administration that we all know and loathe."

How does he ignore his premise?

"I also question his statement that we have not been attacked since 9/11. It appears to me that al Qaeda has attacked us from the safety of their Afgan caves. I have often wondered if al Qaeda is sitting back in those caves laughing its collective butt off as the US spins itself ever deeper into a greater disaster; an attack so devastating that al Qaeda could have never dreamed they could have had such luck, that is the quagmire of Iraq. It has cost not just the blood of our youth, nor just the hundreds of billions of tax dollars pouring out of our nation annually, but the albatross of devastation we call the Iraq war hangs heavily about the US neck and the global loss of credibility that we never thought possible has happened. Al Qaeda has launched a global terrorist attack and their weapon of choice? ?A clumsy, arrogant super power stumbling across the middle east trying to win an unwinnable war."

So you'd prefer fighting on our soil to theirs? I'm looking at this objectively and I don't know how else to read that. Are you surmising that if we play nice that they will leave us alone? And care to sparse that global loss of credibility comment? Thanks in advance, two bits.
6thGen avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#142
I think he's looking for a couple more people to jump in so he can brag about being able to take all of you on with half his brain tied behind his back.

I just had a chance to read this entire thread, and am impressed with the depth of the knowledge and analysis here on all sides. If this has not been a suitably intellectually honest debate, 6thgen, then what is? If it is something else I guess you will not find it here, so then why are you still here?

Really not trying to drive you away, just wondering. Thanks for starting this thread, I've taken much from it. I can't help but wonder whether our incurious leader bothered to parse things this carefully before jumping into Iraq. My guess is he stuck to the talking points only. Much more here than talking points. Nice job everyone.

I have nothing else to add, so I guess that makes me a cheerleader. :floor:

I think it is honest for the most part, but when the non sequiturs and logical fallacies progress towards the moonbat and tinfoil hat, I smack my head. If we are going to play that way I might as well just run with the "Democrats feed on baby children, hate Jesus and hate America" talking points and avoid actual debate all together.
Rita avatar
margarita brocolia
#143
........ I can't help but wonder whether our incurious leader bothered to parse things this carefully before jumping into Iraq. My guess is he stuck to the talking points only. Much more here than talking points. Nice job everyone.

I have nothing else to add, so I guess that makes me a cheerleader. :floor:



This was going through my mind also. If only there had been dialogue and debate and full consideration given to consequences of entering Iraq. This administration could have use you folks! I'm hoping our next president doesn't just stand by his/her convictions, but will seriously listen to debate on issues!
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Chickpea avatar
Beach Fanatic
#144
6th Gen,

I thank Uncle Timmy and a host of others for putting you in your place (which I am sure you will disagree about but it is how we obviously see it). Your callousness, insensitivity and ignorance know no bounds - you remain woefully uneducated of facts despite your arguments - do yourself a favor - travel and learn - you have visibly done very little of the former.
6thGen avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#145
It has yet to cease to amaze me how you all love to pat yourselves on the back for "putting me in my place". Shut the hell up about that. All I ask is that you engage me on the issues, as I have repeatedly done you. If you were conservative, 30Gay would be jumping on your case for not making any points and doing nothing more than throwing around insults. Oh, also, I think you meant "latter" instead of "former", because I'm fairly well travelled. Chickpea, you are not very smart, you don't know what the hell you are talking about, you choose platitudes rather than facts and you don't have the backbone to argue substance. See, it sucks, doesn't it? Now, pretend that you actually made a point before I said that.
Teresa avatar
SoWal Guide
#146
It has yet to cease to amaze me how you all love to pat yourselves on the back for "putting me in my place". Shut the hell up about that. All I ask is that you engage me on the issues, as I have repeatedly done you. If you were conservative, 30Gay would be jumping on your case for not making any points and doing nothing more than throwing around insults. Oh, also, I think you meant "latter" instead of "former", because I'm fairly well travelled. Chickpea, you are not very smart, you don't know what the hell you are talking about, you choose platitudes rather than facts and you don't have the backbone to argue substance. See, it sucks, doesn't it? Now, pretend that you actually made a point before I said that.

oh dear baby jesus... :roll:
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#147
This was going through my mind also. If only there had been dialogue and debate and full consideration given to consequences of entering Iraq. This administration could have use you folks! I'm hoping our next president doesn't just stand by his/her convictions, but will seriously listen to debate on issues!
.

A politrickshun actually listen to debate? :floor: Maybe they listen, but it is only to the people with money who put them in office.

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John R avatar
needs to get out more
#148
It has yet to cease to amaze me how you all love to pat yourselves on the back for "putting me in my place". Shut the hell up about that. All I ask is that you engage me on the issues, as I have repeatedly done you. If you were conservative, 30Gay would be jumping on your case for not making any points and doing nothing more than throwing around insults. Oh, also, I think you meant "latter" instead of "former", because I'm fairly well travelled. Chickpea, you are not very smart, you don't know what the hell you are talking about, you choose platitudes rather than facts and you don't have the backbone to argue substance. See, it sucks, doesn't it? Now, pretend that you actually made a point before I said that.

the burden of being so young and knowing everything must be very heavy. you ask to be engaged, yet follow up by throwing around insults like a child who hasn't gotten their way. quite sad, the (supposed)intellect is not matched by the tact. how's the pototo salad coming?
6thGen avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#149
the burden of being so young and knowing everything must be very heavy. you ask to be engaged, yet follow up by throwing around insults like a child who hasn't gotten their way. quite sad, the (supposed)intellect is not matched by the tact. how's the pototo salad coming?

OK, to all of the kettles out there, I'll recap.

I asked Timmy to explain why the US will shoulder the blame for the Iraqis killing each other. He showed that Republicans believe Saddam was responsible to 9/11. Non sequitur.

Timmy insinuated that we were completely reliant on MidEast oil. I showed that we were not. He then put up numbers from Saudi freaking Arabia which verified my point, but he shifted the goalposts by trying to frame the argument in numbers of barrels. I asked why the Sauds are going to quit shipping oil our way and why the regime is going to fall. I then began to detail (sorry, Tootsie) some history and showed why the Sauds are holding their breath. In other words, I helped answer the question for Timmy. However, I didn't answer it in full because the regime isn't currently facing any real threats of coup d'?tat. He replied that since there are Shia in the Sauds' oil producing regions, we should all climb under our desk.

I said that Arabs are prone to violence. He said I was arrogant and ignorant. He then pointed to a non sequitur and shifted a separate argument to fit his needs after I disproved his first premise, that the US is dependant on MidEast oil. Then everyone (including you) clapped, agreed that I was ignorant, and said that he put me in my place. Chickpea called me names and told me that I should travel more when she obviously meant to post that I should learn more. I replied in kind as an example. I think that about sums it up.
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#150
You know...some of us could really learn something here if we didn't have to read through the name calling and posturing. I like the lively debates from all, until while reading, I am interrupted with personal attacks.

As for being young...I used to have strong opinions on many topics, and was convinced I had most of the answers back in the day. It is exhausting "knowing" everything. Like a fine wine, I have mellowed over the years. But, unfortunately I have lost alot of my passion as well....especially in politcs and have found myself with my head in the sand way too often. That said, I thank you all for debating the hard issues and making me think.
Mango avatar
SoWal Insider
#151
6th Gen, I still do not see how you disproved that the U.S is not dependent on Mideast Oil? What difference does it make if it's barrels or milk bottles, the numbers imported to the US speak for themselves.
You say we can get it elsewhere, then why aren't we?

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