CAUTION, THIS INFORMATION WILL HURT YOUR HEART, GRAPHIC HEARTLESS TREATMENT OF ANIMALS .....the next time you browse through the meat sections of your favorite grocery how can you not think about these videos,,,,,,
there is really something wrong with the HUGE DISCONNECT people have in terms of where and how their food products are being made available to them.
http://www.chooseveg.com/kosher-slaughter.asp
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251Beach Comber
Aware of the suffering caused by the destrustion of life...
I am committed to culitvating insight and compassion so that I may learn ways to protect the lives of people, animals, plants and minerals.
Eating meat is no longer relevant in our society, it is a thing of the past. Holding on to the concept that it is permissable for another living being to be murdered to fulfill our human addictions to meat , clothing, or any other part of our life, this way of life is completely out of date.
Breaking this kind of addiction is uncomfortable for us. We believe it will be to uncomfortable for the rest of our friends and family to be with us also, its easier to stick our head back in the sand.
No one wants to feel their heart break, the things that go on in our everyday life can be emotional enough without adding to it by being aware of the suffering we put our animals through for our own pleasure and continue to put them through because of our own fear.
Anyone who has given up participating in this kind of animal murder, animal cruelty is a brave soul, and a teacher of great compassion. It makes me feel so good to know there are people in my community that are not afraid to look deeply into this subject, not afraid to keep their heart open and state their awareness of animals deep suffering and their inability to use their own voices to protect themselves.
I am committed to culitvating insight and compassion so that I may learn ways to protect the lives of people, animals, plants and minerals.
Eating meat is no longer relevant in our society, it is a thing of the past. Holding on to the concept that it is permissable for another living being to be murdered to fulfill our human addictions to meat , clothing, or any other part of our life, this way of life is completely out of date.
Breaking this kind of addiction is uncomfortable for us. We believe it will be to uncomfortable for the rest of our friends and family to be with us also, its easier to stick our head back in the sand.
No one wants to feel their heart break, the things that go on in our everyday life can be emotional enough without adding to it by being aware of the suffering we put our animals through for our own pleasure and continue to put them through because of our own fear.
Anyone who has given up participating in this kind of animal murder, animal cruelty is a brave soul, and a teacher of great compassion. It makes me feel so good to know there are people in my community that are not afraid to look deeply into this subject, not afraid to keep their heart open and state their awareness of animals deep suffering and their inability to use their own voices to protect themselves.
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Beach Fanatic
I am committed to culitvating insight and compassion so that I may learn ways to protect the lives of people, animals, plants and minerals.
Eating meat is no longer relevant in our society, it is a thing of the past. Holding on to the concept that it is permissable for another living being to be murdered to fulfill our human addictions to meat , clothing, or any other part of our life, this way of life is completely out of date.
Breaking this kind of addiction is uncomfortable for us. We believe it will be to uncomfortable for the rest of our friends and family to be with us also, its easier to stick our head back in the sand.
No one wants to feel their heart break, the things that go on in our everyday life can be emotional enough without adding to it by being aware of the suffering we put our animals through for our own pleasure and continue to put them through because of our own fear.
Anyone who has given up participating in this kind of animal murder, animal cruelty is a brave soul, and a teacher of great compassion. It makes me feel so good to know there are people in my community that are not afraid to look deeply into this subject, not afraid to keep their heart open and state their awareness of animals deep suffering and their inability to use their own voices to protect themselves.
I respect your opinion and admire your passion. But when you say eating meat is no longer relevant and a thing of the past I hope you are presenting your view of the way things could/should be, your goal, your utopia. Because the reality is that meat is still the norm, the standard, the convention. It is still quite relevant and perceived to be necessary.
I am personally conflicted because I am an animal lover. The videos of slaughter houses break my heart. But I eat meat and I don't plan on stopping anytime soon. I believe that it is a natural thing to eat meat. For as long as humans have existed they have eaten meat. Let's not forget- we are animals (albeit evolved ones).
I think we could all make a difference if we spent our resources promoting the humane treatment and killing (yes- I see the irony/oxymoron here) of cows, pigs, chickens, etc. because the practice of eating meat isn't going anywhere anytime soon. I'd imagine it'll take another century, if not more.
Two cents, G
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This is a great thread. Bobby J, it is amazing how we can go through years of our life and not associate a consequence with an action. I feel so dumb when I finally do and think of all the wasted time. But the thing is, I know right now there are probably hundreds of little things like that I don't fully recognize.
I sometimes suffer from restless legs syndrome. It has been so bad that once I put myself to sleep while shaking my legs as rapidly as I could. If I wouldn't shake them, I would have gone crazy.
I kept a journal and found that salt consumption was the main factor for me. It's funny, I told my brother I didn't think I ate too much salt and he said, "Mike, you keep a salt shaker next to your chair." And he was right. I salted everything way too much.
Today, I am fasting. It is 4:30 and I'm still going. I want to go for a one day fast but wonder if I'll be able to get to sleep tonight. Then I'll go from there and maybe extend it slightly. I've read that the first day toxins are removed from your muscles and only after that does it begin working on your fat reserves.
I'm not doing this for weight reasons. I am already stone cold hotBut seriously, I did it recently and it is as if you get these insights. And it makes me realize that I eat out of habit and compulsion and often as a comforting thing. And it makes me think about what I am putting into my body.
I have a headache right now. I find it helps for me to be out of the house and busy. Earlier while hiking I came out along 30A and low and behold if I didn't think about going to Flip Flops for a burger before I caught myself.
Then I re-entered the woonds and saw a deer. Now that would be some lean eating. Oh, and I always hear about the health benefits of eating raw FRUITS and vegetables. That alkaline/acid thing sounds interesting. Apparently the results are favorable for you bdc63. Congratulations on that and salutes to you for your dedication. Sometimes we need to be against a wall to force a change. Maybe I can learn something from you. Thanks!
Just wanted to say thanks for sharing all this. I probably need to start up my periodic fasting as well. Are you doing water only? Liquids only? ...I saw 3 young deer on the south side of 30A last night on the way home. So beautiful.
Beach Comber
I respect your opinion and admire your passion. But when you say eating meat is no longer relevant and a thing of the past I hope you are presenting your view of the way things could/should be, your goal, your utopia. Because the reality is that meat is still the norm, the standard, the convention. It is still quite relevant and perceived to be necessary.Thanks for replying on that thread. you gave me some interesting things to contemplate!
I am personally conflicted because I am an animal lover. The videos of slaughter houses break my heart. But I eat meat and I don't plan on stopping anytime soon. I believe that it is a natural thing to eat meat. For as long as humans have existed they have eaten meat. Let's not forget- we are animals (albeit evolved ones).
I think we could all make a difference if we spent our resources promoting the humane treatment and killing (yes- I see the irony/oxymoron here) of cows, pigs, chickens, etc. because the practice of eating meat isn't going anywhere anytime soon. I'd imagine it'll take another century, if not more.
Two cents, G
When I say that eating meat is no longer relevant and a thing of the past i mean that the majority of us do not need meat as life sustaining food, unless you may have some medical reasons. I understand what your saying about humans eating meat as long as there has been civilization but now it is much easier for us to acquire food, we go down to the grocery store and we have many choices. It is the norm for us to eat meat, this is how we are raised, most of us. We are human animals, but there are other animals who live on vegetation alone. You are so right about putting our time and energy into reducing the cruelty in these factories, this is very important. And also to look into where you are purchasing your meat from so that possibly we have more humaine choices. I have found even at Publix that if we ask for a particular product sometimes they can get it, but we still have to be aware that sometime organic does not mean cruelty free.
There are a lot of things throughout are lifetime as human beings that have fallen away due to awareness of our ignorance, we now know
that smoking is a health hazard, something most of us were not aware of 60 years ago. But even though so many of us know that we continue to do it. I smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day for 20 years, i knew it was bad for me, I knew it was not setting a good example for my kids , why did I do it, because smoking even today is still socially acceptable, and also I was addicted, phisically, mentally and emotionally.
I think a lot of us are the same way with meat, and just food in general. We use it to temporarly make us feel better, and most of the time do so with the knowledge that we are only creating more addiction in ourselves and families.
You are right, in a utopia it would be completely irrelevant and probably against the law to consume other living beings, especially by the torcherous ends they meet. It may never happen.
When we are lost in the forest we use the north star to guide us out. We are not trying to get to the north star, we are only moving in that direction.
The deeper we pennitrate this topic the more awareness we bring to ourselves and our society.
I can tell that this is something you are looking into deeply, and I can tell that it has brought you a lot of awareness.
It would be wonderful if like you, like me, and many others, more people we able to open their heart to this topic.
The main word I really liked that you used in your comment was "perceived"
It is our perception as a society that eating meat is normal, and valid.
The question is where did these perceptions come from, when were these perception passed on to us,do we want to allow the perceptions of our ancestors to continue dictating how we live our life in our modern era, why do we consider these perceptions still relevant, everything is moving, everything is changing, our perceptions must go in the direction of movement as well,and lastly we need to ask ourselves are these the the perceptions that we ourselves, we as our society want to put our signiture on.
Beach Comber
As if I did rattle on enough......
I wanted to mention something really cool that my 8 year old son does.
I do not in force my vegan belief on him, i let him make his own decisions to what he eats. Most of the time he chooses a vegetarian food selection anyway.
But he does love chicken fingers and fried shrimp!
So when we go to golden corral he usually cant resist the shrimp!
He has developed a beautiful practice when he does eat meat.
when he eats meat, he is aware that he is eating meat.
It is that simple. He mindfully eats his meat, instead of just popping whatever into his mouth without thinking about it.
Sometime he says, thank you for giving your life to me so that I can eat little shrimp, I hope you did not have to suffer to much because of it.
This is something all of us can do when we eat, know what we are eating and appreciate where it came from and the life it lived.
It only takes a second to look at our food and appreciate it, and is especially a nice practice to use when eating meat.
I wanted to mention something really cool that my 8 year old son does.
I do not in force my vegan belief on him, i let him make his own decisions to what he eats. Most of the time he chooses a vegetarian food selection anyway.
But he does love chicken fingers and fried shrimp!
So when we go to golden corral he usually cant resist the shrimp!
He has developed a beautiful practice when he does eat meat.
when he eats meat, he is aware that he is eating meat.
It is that simple. He mindfully eats his meat, instead of just popping whatever into his mouth without thinking about it.
Sometime he says, thank you for giving your life to me so that I can eat little shrimp, I hope you did not have to suffer to much because of it.
This is something all of us can do when we eat, know what we are eating and appreciate where it came from and the life it lived.
It only takes a second to look at our food and appreciate it, and is especially a nice practice to use when eating meat.
Beach Fanatic
I have discovered that the whole meat thing for weight loss is over rated and inaccurate. People are lead to believe they need meat through heavy marketing and advertising. I am in an intense training program and currently eating meat as I was concerned that my "protein" level would not let me get as cut as I would like to get. It is not working like the last time I did this training and was vegetarian. I loss a lot more weight and was more cut on a vegetarian diet. I actually found I had a lot more energy. I think the secret for us all is moderation and being aware of where our meat is coming from. I also am always amazed how defensive people get when you start talking about not eating meat or the harmful effects the meat industry has on society. For me personally, my health is better when I steer clear of it. Hope to make the switch again soon. Like many addictions it is hard to just abruptly stop.
beats on hood
I am on the Sustainability Council at the institution where I teach. One of the activities that was planned for the nationwide Campus Sustainability Day today was serving only vegetarian food in the cafeteria today at lunch. It went over well. The place was packed, and the students really seemed to like it.
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I think one of the reasons they push protein for weight loss is it makes people feel "full" longer.....................and steers them away from other bad foods.
Beach Fanatic
I think one of the reasons they push protein for weight loss is it makes people feel "full" longer.....................and steers them away from other bad foods.
But... we all exceed the amount of meat we should eat which then crosses into another area of actually being bad for you. I should say personally, that is my problem. Have you ever looked at what a portion is on some of this?
SoWal Expert
Yep - anywhere from 1/2 to 1/5 of the smallest portion you can order at most restaurants.
I can't order a burger smaller than 1/3 of a pound anywhere in Sowal..........and we wonder why America has a weight problem. :roll:
I can't order a burger smaller than 1/3 of a pound anywhere in Sowal..........and we wonder why America has a weight problem. :roll:
Beach Fanatic
This is not trolling. My personal requirements at present are 16 oz's of meat daily, at a minimum. I try to eat a pound of leafy greens too but sometimes can't get that down. I round out the caloric needs with cream or butter, a bit of cheese, or a spoonful or three of coconut oil. I have lost a fair bit of weight on chicken wings and rendered bits of crispy beef fat. I look and feel better than I have since High School. I strongly encourage the reading of Amazon.com: Good Calories, Bad Calories: Fats, Carbs, and the Controversial Science of Diet and Health (Vintage) (9781400033461): Gary Taubes: Books for what some might find an interesting point of view.
Beach Fanatic
This is not trolling. My personal requirements at present are 16 oz's of meat daily, at a minimum. I try to eat a pound of leafy greens too but sometimes can't get that down. I round out the caloric needs with cream or butter, a bit of cheese, or a spoonful or three of coconut oil. I have lost a fair bit of weight on chicken wings and rendered bits of crispy beef fat. I look and feel better than I have since High School. I strongly encourage the reading of Amazon.com: Good Calories, Bad Calories: Fats, Carbs, and the Controversial Science of Diet and Health (Vintage) (9781400033461): Gary Taubes: Books for what some might find an interesting point of view.
Somewhere out there is a cardiologist reading this post and feeling reassured he'll be able to afford his new 7 Series BMW next year ...
Beach Fanatic
I refuse to pick up the gauntlet you have thrown down and will refrain from mentioning that "somewhere out there is a proctologist reading this post and feeling reassured that he'll be able to afford blah blah" (by performing "removing heads from butts" operations, in case the meaning of what I am too mature to say is not clear)
Beach Fanatic
I refuse to pick up the gauntlet you have thrown down and will refrain from mentioning that "somewhere out there is a proctologist reading this post and feeling reassured that he'll be able to afford blah blah" (by performing "removing heads from butts" operations, in case the meaning of what I am too mature to say is not clear)
Interesting. One of my sons was vegan for years and now eats a diet very similar to yours. He eats grass fed beef only though = nothing from Walmart. (see below and if you are eating lots of meat I suggest you look into purchasing it from For The Health of It (they have grass fed) or order it online - I can give you a link. Back to my son. He doesn't eat dairy because we did not evolve with dairy and he is looking for a more paleo type diet but without lots of fruit (Paleo Diet advocates lots of fruit) - he eats around 60 grams of carbohydrates a day (not 60 carbs) and he also eats green veggies. His weight is perfect, he looks like a million bucks, he has no digestive difficulties and he is having all of his bloodwork done Monday so I can give a full report. Now, do I think this is sustainable for the entire world? No. But I know that not everyone will be vegan - I do suggest at least once a week being vegan (not junk food vegan either) - and I highly think everyone who eats any animal products to remember how this thread was started. It was started because of inhumane treatment of animals. Peace begins on our plates and I think we have a moral obligation to treat animals far far better than we do.
Here's more on grass fed beef - if one chooses to eat beef:
Feeding grain to cattle has got to be one of the dumbest ideas in the history of western civilization. Cows, sheep, and other grazing animals are endowed with the ability to convert grasses, which those of us who possess only one stomach cannot digest, into food that we can digest. They can do this because they are ruminants, which is to say that they possess a rumen, a 45 or so gallon (in the case of cows) fermentation tank in which resident bacteria convert cellulose into protein and fats.
Traditionally, all beef was grassfed beef, but in the United States today what is commercially available is almost all feedlot beef. The reason? It?s faster, and so more profitable. Seventy-five years ago, steers were 4 or 5 years old at slaughter. Today, they are 14 or 16 months. You can?t take a beef calf from a birth weight of 80 pounds to 1,200 pounds in a little more than a year on grass. It takes enormous quantities of corn, protein supplements, antibiotics and other drugs, including growth hormones.
Switching a cow from grass to grain is so disturbing to the animal?s digestive system that it can kill the animal if not done gradually and if the animal is not continually fed antibiotics. These animals are designed to forage, but we make them eat grain, primarily corn, in order to make them as fat as possible as fast as possible. Author and small-scale cattleman Michael Pollan wrote recently in the New York Times about what happens to cows when they are taken off of pastures and put into feedlots and fed grain:
?Perhaps the most serious thing that can go wrong with a ruminant on corn is feedlot bloat. The rumen is always producing copious amounts of gas, which is normally expelled by belching during rumination. But when the diet contains too much starch and too little roughage, rumination all but stops, and a layer of foamy slime that can trap gas forms in the rumen. The rumen inflates like a balloon, pressing against the animal?s lungs. Unless action is promptly taken to relieve the pressure (usually by forcing a hose down the animal?s esophagus), the cow suffocates.
A corn diet can also give a cow acidosis. Unlike that in our own highly acidic stomachs, the normal pH of a rumen is neutral. Corn makes it unnaturally acidic, however, causing a kind of bovine heartburn, which in some cases can kill the animal but usually just makes it sick. Acidotic animals go off their feed, pant and salivate excessively, paw at their bellies and eat dirt. The condition can lead to diarrhea, ulcers, bloat, liver disease and a general weakening of the immune system that leaves the animal vulnerable to everything from pneumonia to feedlot polio.?
All this is not only unnatural and dangerous for the cows. It also has profound consequences for us. Feedlot beef as we know it today would be impossible if it weren?t for the routine and continual feeding of antibiotics to these animals. This leads directly and inexorably to the development of antibiotic-resistant bacteria. These are the new ?superbugs? that are increasingly rendering our ?miracle drugs? ineffective.A corn diet can also give a cow acidosis. Unlike that in our own highly acidic stomachs, the normal pH of a rumen is neutral. Corn makes it unnaturally acidic, however, causing a kind of bovine heartburn, which in some cases can kill the animal but usually just makes it sick. Acidotic animals go off their feed, pant and salivate excessively, paw at their bellies and eat dirt. The condition can lead to diarrhea, ulcers, bloat, liver disease and a general weakening of the immune system that leaves the animal vulnerable to everything from pneumonia to feedlot polio.?
As well, it is the commercial meat industry?s practice of keeping cattle in feedlots and feeding them grain that is responsible for the heightened prevalence of E. coli 0157:H7 bacteria. When cattle are grainfed, their intestinal tracts become far more acidic, which favors the growth of pathogenic E. coli bacteria, which in turn kills people who eat undercooked hamburger. E. coli 0157:H7 has only recenty appeared on the scene. First isolated in the 1980s, this pathogen is now found in the intestines of most U.S. feedlot cattle. The practice of feeding corn and other grains to cattle has created the perfect conditions for microbes to come into being that can harm and kill us. As Michael Pollan explains:
?Most of the microbes that reside in the gut of a cow and find their way into our food get killed off by the acids in our stomachs, since they originally adapted to live in a neutral-pH environment. But the digestive tract of the modern feedlot cow is closer in acidity to our own, and in this new, manmade environment acid-resistant strains of E. coli have developed that can survive our stomach acids ? and go on to killl us. By acidifying a cow?s gut with corn, we have broken down one of our food chain?s barriers to infections.?
Many of us think of ?corn-fed? beef as nutritionally superior, but it isn?t. A cornfed cow does develop well-marbled flesh, but this is simply saturated fat that can?t be trimmed off. Grassfed meat, on the other hand, is lower both in overall fat and in artery-clogging saturated fat. A sirloin steak from a grainfed feedlot steer has more than double the total fat of a similar cut from a grassfed steer. In its less-than-infinite wisdom, however, the USDA continues to grade beef in a way that rewards marbling with intra-muscular fat. Grassfed beef not only is lower in overall fat and in saturated fat, but it has the added advantage of providing more omega-3 fats. These crucial healthy fats are most plentiful in flaxseeds and fish, and are also found in walnuts, soybeans and in meat from animals that have grazed on omega-3 rich grass. When cattle are taken off grass, though, and shipped to a feedlot to be fattened on grain, they immediately begin losing the omega-3s they have stored in their tissues. As a consequence, the meat from feedlot animals typically contains only 15- 50 percent as much omega-3s as that from grassfed livestock.
So see why it is very important to purchase meat that is grass fed. Or, get it from your local hunter.
Lastly, this heart warming article is a must read for all of us - vegans, meat eaters, breatharians (LOL - I swear there are some who say they "live" on air!
)The Pig Farmer - Healthy at 100 ::: by John Robbins
If you read it, tell me how you liked it.
Thanks
G
Beach Fanatic
This is not trolling. My personal requirements at present are 16 oz's of meat daily, at a minimum. I try to eat a pound of leafy greens too but sometimes can't get that down. I round out the caloric needs with cream or butter, a bit of cheese, or a spoonful or three of coconut oil. I have lost a fair bit of weight on chicken wings and rendered bits of crispy beef fat. I look and feel better than I have since High School. I strongly encourage the reading of Amazon.com: Good Calories, Bad Calories: Fats, Carbs, and the Controversial Science of Diet and Health (Vintage) (9781400033461): Gary Taubes: Books for what some might find an interesting point of view.
Have you read Trick and Treat by Barry Groves? It is one of my sons favorites but highly controversial. Meat meat meat! He doesn't agree of course with all that Barry says (and man, I sure don't) but basically I think it is very similar to the book you are talking about.
G
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Have you read Trick and Treat by Barry Groves? It is one of my sons favorites but highly controversial. Meat meat meat! He doesn't agree of course with all that Barry says (and man, I sure don't) but basically I think it is very similar to the book you are talking about.I have not read that and I agree about For The Health of it. Being curious about the White Oaks grass fed beef for a year or so (amongst other brands as well) that FTHOI recently began carrying I bought two NY strips and was very pleased. I enjoy vegetables too much to give them up, luckily for me I do not have to choose one or the other, though I support everyone's decision to do what they feel right for themselves.
G
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I have not read that and I agree about For The Health of it. Being curious about the White Oaks grass fed beef for a year or so (amongst other brands as well) that FTHOI recently began carrying I bought two NY strips and was very pleased. I enjoy vegetables too much to give them up, luckily for me I do not have to choose one or the other, though I support everyone's decision to do what they feel right for themselves.[/quote]
Some do not process carbs as well as others, I being one of those people. I have read that many with native American backgrounds become insulin resistant with the typical American diet. Too much fruit and my blood sugar starts going whack. I have to work hard to strike a balance with what helps me feel better. I'm very interested in the grass fed beef, as well.
I agree with Gordy and Gidget, if you want respect for the way you choose to eat, you might start respecting the ways others choose to eat.
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Too much fruit and my blood sugar starts going whack. I have to work hard to strike a balance with what helps me feel better. I'm very interested in the grass fed beef, as well.
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I have that blood sugar problem before and had success actually only eating fruit until noon. Did it for a few months and my blood sugar stabilized. My sugar level has remained stable unless i dip into too much java. Then it really whacks out.
SoWal Insider
I have that blood sugar problem before and had success actually only eating fruit until noon. Did it for a few months and my blood sugar stabilized. My sugar level has remained stable unless i dip into too much java. Then it really whacks out.
Some studies are showing that java pushes more insulin production, which in turn will drop your blood sugar like a rock. I'm ok with things like organic apples, but I need a little almond or peanut butter on them if that's gonna be breakfast. When I stay with two cups of coffee or less and go green tea( which is being shown to help damper insulin production in people like me) I do much better.
Beach Fanatic
Loving the conversation here, all the information from richly diverse sources. Thanks, everybody.
I have recently been advised to include a small amount of solid animal protein with my fruit or vegetable in the mornings (I had always had just fruit too, till mid morning or lunch). About one egg, or equivalent protein as cheese, chicken, etc. Am also supposed to have similar amount of animal protein at lunch, and limit starchy foods, even complex carbs like legumes and whole grains. Save those for dinner, I'm told. Also, stay away from soy because it messes with thyroid (had no idea; soy was a staple for years). If I want a snack, include a bit of protein....
So I've been trying this new approach to eating for a few weeks, and am still dialing in how to do it since it is very different from what I'm used to. But it is amazing how much my energy has leveled out through the day. A lot of it comes down, I think, to portion size, and obviously, blood sugar.
Yoga helps me too, with the energy balancing....
I have recently been advised to include a small amount of solid animal protein with my fruit or vegetable in the mornings (I had always had just fruit too, till mid morning or lunch). About one egg, or equivalent protein as cheese, chicken, etc. Am also supposed to have similar amount of animal protein at lunch, and limit starchy foods, even complex carbs like legumes and whole grains. Save those for dinner, I'm told. Also, stay away from soy because it messes with thyroid (had no idea; soy was a staple for years). If I want a snack, include a bit of protein....
So I've been trying this new approach to eating for a few weeks, and am still dialing in how to do it since it is very different from what I'm used to. But it is amazing how much my energy has leveled out through the day. A lot of it comes down, I think, to portion size, and obviously, blood sugar.
Yoga helps me too, with the energy balancing....
Beach Fanatic
I have that blood sugar problem before and had success actually only eating fruit until noon. Did it for a few months and my blood sugar stabilized. My sugar level has remained stable unless i dip into too much java. Then it really whacks out.
Anyone with blood sugar levels that are out of whack would be wise to give up caffeine. Amazing how so many do not make that connection and blame certain foods though. Caffeine can really do a number on blood sugar. Glad you made the connection.
G
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I have not read that and I agree about For The Health of it. Being curious about the White Oaks grass fed beef for a year or so (amongst other brands as well) that FTHOI recently began carrying I bought two NY strips and was very pleased. I enjoy vegetables too much to give them up, luckily for me I do not have to choose one or the other, though I support everyone's decision to do what they feel right for themselves.[/quote]
Some do not process carbs as well as others, I being one of those people. I have read that many with native American backgrounds become insulin resistant with the typical American diet. Too much fruit and my blood sugar starts going whack. I have to work hard to strike a balance with what helps me feel better. I'm very interested in the grass fed beef, as well.
I agree with Gordy and Gidget, if you want respect for the way you choose to eat, you might start respecting the ways others choose to eat.
Just in case FTHOI is out or limited in their selection or if you want to go bulk (which may be possible through them as well) here's the link for the grass fed beef my son eats.
Slanker's Grass-Fed Meats
Also, he has gotten bison and pork. I believe they have chicken too that are given the freedom to scratch in the dust and eat BUGS! Totally different animal when raised this way. Now, it is not "organic" but in my book it is good enough - no hormones or antibiotics and the animals are allowed to roam free. (btw, cage free on cartons of eggs in Walmart is a joke (there is no legal definition of ?cage-free,? and a cage-free hen is not necessarily a free hen running about a pasture. Often, cage-free hens are running around crowded barns, with little or no access to the outdoors.) But you can be confident in the local eggs sold at FTHOI. Those chickens have a great life.
I am reading iWant by my old roommate Jane Velez Mitchell. (anchor of Issues on CNN's HLN) She is a huge animal rights advocate. She was part of the passage of Prop 2 in CA in 08. And here's what they wanted:
Farm animals MUST have the room to stretch their limbs, turn around and lie down.Can you imagine your dog not being able to stretch, turn around or lie down!!! Same thing goes for a pig or a cow or a chicken. The factory farm industry spent millions of dollars trying to defeat this modest proposal to treat farm animals with basic decency. That says LOADS about factory farming.
So when we buy bacon or eggs or steak from the usual sources, that is what we are supporting.
G
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Twin Oaks Farms (at Seaside Farmer's Market every Saturday) sells free range pastured chickens that only receive organic feed; also they have eggs laid by these happy chickens, and duck eggs too. We were there for Farm Day yestertday, building an herb spiral, and you never saw so many happy free chickens. They have free roaming every day of almost 100 acres of pasture. Those eggs and chickens taste so much better than the usual kind, even the organic kind you can buy in grocery stores.
I think FTHOI sells Twin Oaks eggs...
I think FTHOI sells Twin Oaks eggs...
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Anyone with blood sugar levels that are out of whack would be wise to give up caffeine. Amazing how so many do not make that connection and blame certain foods though. Caffeine can really do a number on blood sugar. Glad you made the connection.
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I made the connection years ago but struggle with the disconnection.
Gave up alcohol 10 years ago and java became my social connection. "My drug of choice." I am trying to get my head ready for the disconnect.
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I have given up caffeine twice already (babyhaving era) and got hooked again. I don't even aspire to try to quit anytime soon, because the headache I get when decaffeinating is beyond incapacitating, for DAYS, even if I get down to half a cup of tea or less per day before quitting. The tiredness is nothing compared to the headache for me.
Maybe there are acupuncture therapies or something that could help me with this, when I'm ready....BJ, know of any tricks like that?
Maybe there are acupuncture therapies or something that could help me with this, when I'm ready....BJ, know of any tricks like that?
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