CAUTION, THIS INFORMATION WILL HURT YOUR HEART, GRAPHIC HEARTLESS TREATMENT OF ANIMALS .....the next time you browse through the meat sections of your favorite grocery how can you not think about these videos,,,,,,
there is really something wrong with the HUGE DISCONNECT people have in terms of where and how their food products are being made available to them.
http://www.chooseveg.com/kosher-slaughter.asp
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I have given up caffeine twice already (babyhaving era) and got hooked again. I don't even aspire to try to quit anytime soon, because the headache I get when decaffeinating is beyond incapacitating, for DAYS, even if I get down to half a cup of tea or less per day before quitting. The tiredness is nothing compared to the headache for me.
Maybe there are acupuncture therapies or something that could help me with this, when I'm ready....BJ, know of any tricks like that?
I can do caffeine once in a blue moon but any more than that and I might get hooked again. When I stopped I SLOWLY stopped. I drank 3/4's of a cup, then 1/2 of a cup and slowly graduated off of it.
Best thing I could have done. Gave up booze many many years ago. For me, it works. I know others enjoy their wine, etc... and that's great, but I just prefer my brain uncluttered by any stimulant or depressant. I had enough of that in college LOL!
Yes, FTHOI has Twin Oaks eggs! Saw them there! You can't go wrong if you eat eggs to get them there! Happy Chickens make Happy Eggs!
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I love Renee's eggs - they really do taste better than the supermarket eggs. (I have been conducting tests w/ them vs. Publix eggs)
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Glad you like them scooter!
One of the most inhumane practices for chickens is debeaking. Twin Oaks does NOT do this barbaric act. Most all other egg producers, even "cage free" do. Egg Production - Debeaking Poultry: Facts that people should know, poultry, free-range, eggs, chickens, hens, battery, debeaking, molting, force molt, animal rights, compassion, vegetarians SICKAMUNDO
One of the most inhumane practices for chickens is debeaking. Twin Oaks does NOT do this barbaric act. Most all other egg producers, even "cage free" do. Egg Production - Debeaking Poultry: Facts that people should know, poultry, free-range, eggs, chickens, hens, battery, debeaking, molting, force molt, animal rights, compassion, vegetarians SICKAMUNDO
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The Future of Food
Can't remember if I already posted this link on sowal or not.... feature length film about food production--history, current and as title suggests, future.....
Hulu - The Future Of Food - Watch the full feature film now.@@AMEPARAM@@http://www.hulu.com/embed/cMzvfJo5t_uBnghXU4JgkQ@@AMEPARAM@@cMzvfJo5t_uBnghXU4JgkQ
Can't remember if I already posted this link on sowal or not.... feature length film about food production--history, current and as title suggests, future.....
Hulu - The Future Of Food - Watch the full feature film now.@@AMEPARAM@@http://www.hulu.com/embed/cMzvfJo5t_uBnghXU4JgkQ@@AMEPARAM@@cMzvfJo5t_uBnghXU4JgkQ
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Fall reminds me of one of my favorite vegan raw dishes I make. My signature "Possum Parfait" made with persimmons and banana raw ice cream.

I love it so much and it is so beautiful!
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I love it so much and it is so beautiful!
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I made the connection years ago but struggle with the disconnection.
Gave up alcohol 10 years ago and java became my social connection. "My drug of choice." I am trying to get my head ready for the disconnect.
caffeine is the best drug ever. why give it up? just try to limit your coffee to a few cups a day. and switch to decaf ice tea (luzianne) with a tad of sugar (real sugar). I LOVE real coffee.. so I do decaf tea and that way I can drink it at night.
I have actually heard positive reports about coffee in the last few years. in moderation of course. and with a little food - don't skip breakfast.
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caffeine is the best drug ever. why give it up? just try to limit your coffee to a few cups a day. and switch to decaf ice tea (luzianne) with a tad of sugar (real sugar). I LOVE real coffee.. so I do decaf tea and that way I can drink it at night.
I have actually heard positive reports about coffee in the last few years. in moderation of course. and with a little food - don't skip breakfast.
My personality does not allow for much moderation. One of the best studies I ever read about coffee concluded with: If it bothers you, don't drink it. If it doesn't, enjoy. I think after much study it messes with my blood sugar. If I can do a cup a day I probably would but I can not seem to be moderate with any drug or drink so my resolution is to just remove it as an option. I hope one day my behavior changes and I can function like normal society.
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Bobby, what is normal society? J
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My personality does not allow for much moderation. One of the best studies I ever read about coffee concluded with: If it bothers you, don't drink it. If it doesn't, enjoy. I think after much study it messes with my blood sugar. If I can do a cup a day I probably would but I can not seem to be moderate with any drug or drink so my resolution is to just remove it as an option. I hope one day my behavior changes and I can function like normal society.
That is SO me when it comes to caffeine. Seriously, if I were to drink a full cup of coffee right now (7am) I would not be able to sleep well and my blood sugar would suffer. No matter what the diet. I can feel it for hours and hours. On rare occasion I'll still have an iced tea at lunch. I never had a serious coffee addiction - never even owned a coffee maker lol. So perhaps it is tolerance. My body never learned to tolerate it. Now my sister claims she can fall asleep while drinking coffee but she has ALWAYS been a coffee drinker. I guess it is great to listen to our own bodies.
Enjoy your coffee Tootsie
this is the weather for it!!Oh I will say that when we were in Costa Rica we did have 1/2 decaf and 1/2 real coffee (never finished the cup) at bfast. HUGE bfast btw. Then we ran around doing a million things all day. That was the most coffee I've ever had and it was a real bodily experience lol!!
A real HIGH! Perhaps it was the mountain air and all....Beach Fanatic
New book out
Eating Animals
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Eating Animals
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Latest video of where your meat comes from if you purchase meat that is not humanely treated. PLEASE watch. If you eat meat you owe it to the animals to watch. If you can't watch then become a vegan.
If this were a video about dogs and cats everyone would watch and demand justice and change. These baby calves are no different.
Purchase your meat from sources who do not carry out these barbaric acts.
Gidget
More Video of Abused Calves at Vermont Slaughter Plant | The Humane Society of the United States
If this were a video about dogs and cats everyone would watch and demand justice and change. These baby calves are no different.
Purchase your meat from sources who do not carry out these barbaric acts.
Gidget
More Video of Abused Calves at Vermont Slaughter Plant | The Humane Society of the United States
SoWal Expert
I know better than to look at those links - still traumatized about debeaking!
Gidget, I think they are showing Food Inc at Mountain Film!
Gidget, I think they are showing Food Inc at Mountain Film!

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Mountain Film? Not sure where that is.
Oh and I finished iWant by Jane if you still want to read it. I am sure we can figure out some way to get it to you.
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Oh and I finished iWant by Jane if you still want to read it. I am sure we can figure out some way to get it to you.
G
SoWal Expert
It's the outdoor independent film festival from Telluride that's at Watercolor this weekend - AMAZING!!!
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Are there any local farmers that raise humane, grass fed beef in our area? I'm finding it harder and harder to eat meat, but I don't think I'm ready to become a vegan, yet. I've never been able to stomach veal and I'm not a great chef. I usually grill or roast any meat that I cook.
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Are there any local farmers that raise humane, grass fed beef in our area? I'm finding it harder and harder to eat meat, but I don't think I'm ready to become a vegan, yet. I've never been able to stomach veal and I'm not a great chef. I usually grill or roast any meat that I cook.
Talk to For the Health of It and Renee also. And remember, consuming dairy supports the veal industry so if you consume dairy try hard to get it from the best sources and try to have vegan a few nights a week. That helps A LOT. The wonderful brochure I used to leaflet on campuses, "Even If You Eat Meat" shows that there's lots a person can do besides going vegan 100% of the time. I smell change and people are not going to stand for this type of treatment.
Also, search for internet sources for humanely raised meats and dairy. Slankers is one who does a pretty good job. Slanker's Grass-Fed Meats
They are not 100% perfect, but beats the heck out of the standard raised and slaughtered animal. PLUS the benefits of grassfed for the animal as well as the human.
Good luck!!! Thanks for responding to the video.

GIDGET
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Talk to For the Health of It and Renee also. And remember, consuming dairy supports the veal industry so if you consume dairy try hard to get it from the best sources and try to have vegan a few nights a week. That helps A LOT. The wonderful brochure I used to leaflet on campuses, "Even If You Eat Meat" shows that there's lots a person can do besides going vegan 100% of the time. I smell change and people are not going to stand for this type of treatment.
Also, search for internet sources for humanely raised meats and dairy. Slankers is one who does a pretty good job. Slanker's Grass-Fed Meats
They are not 100% perfect, but beats the heck out of the standard raised and slaughtered animal. PLUS the benefits of grassfed for the animal as well as the human.
Good luck!!! Thanks for responding to the video.
GIDGET
Not my CHEESE, Gidget..............

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I know, I love cheese and it was a huge thing giving it up (I have had some when eating out on rare occasion) Now, I hardly miss it at all. I just don't like the concept of what happens to baby male calves at dairy farms and that image comes to mind when I see cheese. I don't know about the case with locally produced cheeses or goat cheeses - might be a whole different scene going on.
I'd be curious to know what others might know about this. In other words, do all cheeses/dairy support the veal industry? I know that there are veal producers who no longer crate the little guys in, and that's a step in the right direction. However, people complain that due to the fact that the calves can "move" their meat isn't as tender. Boo hoo.
One thing for sure, I can not stomach soy cheese. Gross stuff IMO. Especially if you buy the kind that has NO casein in it. If it has casein in it - then it has dairy - they just don't like to tell you that casein is a milk protein.
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I'd be curious to know what others might know about this. In other words, do all cheeses/dairy support the veal industry? I know that there are veal producers who no longer crate the little guys in, and that's a step in the right direction. However, people complain that due to the fact that the calves can "move" their meat isn't as tender. Boo hoo.
One thing for sure, I can not stomach soy cheese. Gross stuff IMO. Especially if you buy the kind that has NO casein in it. If it has casein in it - then it has dairy - they just don't like to tell you that casein is a milk protein.
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pulp fiction....a filthy animal dialogue
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pulp fiction....a filthy animal dialogue
I am not up on Tarantino movies. You'll have to splain that one to me :roll:
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FarmForward!
I recommend all to visit farmforward.com! Also, become a fan on facebook & spread the word!
Have a beautiful day!
I recommend all to visit farmforward.com! Also, become a fan on facebook & spread the word!

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I recommend all to visit farmforward.com! Also, become a fan on facebook & spread the word!Have a beautiful day!
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Such a great site I had to post the link!
Thanks and I will check it out on facebook too

Don't be a stranger to the thread.
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My tip for the day:
I am reading
[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Eating-Animals-Jonathan-Safran-Foer/dp/0316069906]Amazon.com: Eating Animals (9780316069908): Jonathan Safran Foer: Books[/ame]
One of the best books on the subject yet. And believe me, I have read MANY along this theme.
Let me know if you read it and we will start a dialog.
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I am reading
[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Eating-Animals-Jonathan-Safran-Foer/dp/0316069906]Amazon.com: Eating Animals (9780316069908): Jonathan Safran Foer: Books[/ame]
One of the best books on the subject yet. And believe me, I have read MANY along this theme.
Let me know if you read it and we will start a dialog.
G
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If Americans (including our parents and grandparents) read one book on food, diet, nutrition, etc every ten years we'd be far healthier than we are at the current pace where such books typically populate the best sellers list. Damn trendy nutrition.
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