Those voices don't speak for the rest of us

Boy, how did this bogus Ronald Reagan thread revolving around an "edited" tape attacking the Democratic Party evolve into a discussion on 1099's and Quickbooks?
... Somewhat related I guess, yes, but a thread like this need to be managed or "corraled" a bit better, IMO, to keep it on topic.

I believe it will be amended and am glad for it. But I still don't think it is that big a deal. Don't folks use Quickbooks? Everytime you receive an invoice or receipt you enter the vendor in QB along with their address, contact info, etc.

You do it once and now that vendor is there in thye dropdown the next time you pay them. All that seems new is the EIN. And if this isn't amended/repealed then I would imagine it would become standard practice for an EIN to be on every invoice/receipt (since everyone would need to get them and give them).

The stat was 200 vendors per business. Two words for you-
college intern

And here is a little secret for you-
elance.com

You can pay someone $4 an hour to track this down for you. But try to limit annual business with them to under $600 so that you don't have to go through the hassle of tracking down their EIN! lol

Can I have your social security number Geo? PM it to me please. I'd like to get it into QuickBooks.

My LLC doesn't use my SS#. I have an EIN. If I spend more than $600 with you this year my accountant will send it to you. Like I said, it's so not a big deal.

My LLC doesn't use my SS#. I have an EIN. If I spend more than $600 with you this year my accountant will send it to you. Like I said, it's so not a big deal.

Since I started the thread, let me say I have no problem with the direction the thread has taken. I start threads to provoke comment and debate and hopefully learn something. This thread has succeeded. Only those individuals who are closed minded or strict partisans discourage debate or think they are above learning something. I am conservative/libertarian to the core but I am not partisan and love questions and debate.

However, I think is is systematic of a general anti-business climate that exists in the congressional leadership and the administration.

My LLC doesn't use my SS#. I have an EIN. If I spend more than $600 with you this year my accountant will send it to you. Like I said, it's so not a big deal.

Wow! My impression is just the opposite. I truly think both major parties are very pro-business--even if one is somewhat more pro-business than the other.

In fact, I think the party that is more pro-business does itself a disservice by being too pro-business.
If all power is concentrated in business & none in labor/consumers, the business community will kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

Both parties should seek a healthy balance in power between business & labor/consumers.

I think you are half right. Both parties are pro BIG business but neither really give a damn about small business which drives our economy. That is why the job market has not rebounded and why the economy stinks. Things will not change until someone get control in washington who understands being pro SMALL business.

I think you are half right. Both parties are pro BIG business but neither really give a damn about small business which drives our economy. That is why the job market has not rebounded and why the economy stinks. Things will not change until someone get control in washington who understands being pro SMALL business.

House Republicans Defeat Tax Relief for Small Businesses ? Continue to Protect Tax Breaks for Companies that Ship Jobs Overseas

July 30, 2010

By Matthew Beck 202-225-8933

Washington, DC ? Republicans in the House of Representatives today defeated legislation that would have provided nearly $20 billion in tax relief to small businesses and closed loopholes that encourage companies to ship jobs overseas. The measure, H.R. 5982, would have eliminated an information reporting requirement for businesses that the independent Taxpayer Advocate recently indicated could pose potential ?administrative challenges to taxpayers and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).?

The reporting requirement is not currently in place, it is scheduled to take effect in 2012. Eliminating the reporting requirement would remove this potential burden from small businesses permanently.

?Republicans had a choice ? stand up for small businesses and provide this tax relief, or continue to protect loopholes for companies that ship jobs overseas,? said Ways and Means Chairman Sander M. Levin (D-MI). ?By defeating this bill, Republicans made clear that they care more about some companies that ship jobs overseas than small businesses that face a potential burden by this reporting requirement. Despite all of their rhetoric about the need to eliminate this reporting requirement, Republicans walked away from small businesses when it mattered most.?

The Small Business Tax Relief Act received the support of the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB).

House Republicans Defeat Tax Relief for Small Businesses ? Continue to Protect Tax Breaks for Companies that Ship Jobs Overseas

July 30, 2010

By Matthew Beck 202-225-8933

Washington, DC ? Republicans in the House of Representatives today defeated legislation that would have provided nearly $20 billion in tax relief to small businesses and closed loopholes that encourage companies to ship jobs overseas. The measure, H.R. 5982, would have eliminated an information reporting requirement for businesses that the independent Taxpayer Advocate recently indicated could pose potential ?administrative challenges to taxpayers and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).?

The reporting requirement is not currently in place, it is scheduled to take effect in 2012. Eliminating the reporting requirement would remove this potential burden from small businesses permanently.

?Republicans had a choice ? stand up for small businesses and provide this tax relief, or continue to protect loopholes for companies that ship jobs overseas,? said Ways and Means Chairman Sander M. Levin (D-MI). ?By defeating this bill, Republicans made clear that they care more about some companies that ship jobs overseas than small businesses that face a potential burden by this reporting requirement. Despite all of their rhetoric about the need to eliminate this reporting requirement, Republicans walked away from small businesses when it mattered most.?

The Small Business Tax Relief Act received the support of the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB).

So are you guys who are so adversely affected by this element of the bill supporting your Small Business Associations to lobby the members of Congress to repeal it?

The ones with the most money often win--but just as often, they win because they are there...when a group of people band together for a common cause, elected members pay attention. And, often, they will pay more attention if the case is made that it's a David and Goliath situation.

If affected people do not participate in the process, then, their voices are not heard. So, if it causes you a problem, band together and make the changes you want to see.

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret Mead

They didn't pay attention when 60% of the country said they didn't want Obamacare, why would we expect them to listen now?

Well, if it's important enough you'll keep trying...or you'll just complain about it...but, I don't have much patience with people who complain but don't do anything to make a difference.

I worked for three years to get a law passed to require helmets for those who ride bicycles. For two years we got the bill passed, only to have the governor veto it...each year we went back again because it was important. I would have kept on no matter how long it took...

I did the same thing for child care centers and transportation for the disabled, and parity for mental illness; for a consumer advocate for insurance; for more equitable pay for women; for workers compensation laws to be more just....the list goes on and on. None of this happened overnight or even in one legislative session--it takes time, and lots of work and late nights and creative thinking and being able to compromise and outsmart the opponent...[/QUOTE]

That's the problem with Congress no one wants to work together. They think it's a game all about them and see each other as opponents rather than listening to the people. Fire the narcissists and get representatives with an honest sense of duty for the people.

Well, if it's important enough you'll keep trying...or you'll just complain about it...but, I don't have much patience with people who complain but don't do anything to make a difference.

I worked for three years to get a law passed to require helmets for those who ride bicycles. For two years we got the bill passed, only to have the governor veto it...each year we went back again because it was important. I would have kept on no matter how long it took...

I did the same thing for child care centers and transportation for the disabled, and parity for mental illness; for a consumer advocate for insurance; for more equitable pay for women; for workers compensation laws to be more just....the list goes on and on. None of this happened overnight or even in one legislative session--it takes time, and lots of work and late nights and creative thinking and being able to compromise and outsmart the opponent...[/QUOTE]

That's the problem with Congress no one wants to work together. They think it's a game all about them and see each other as opponents rather than listening to the people. Fire the narcissists and get representatives with an honest sense of duty for the people.

I don't disagree. But, and it's a big "but"--it takes involved, active people to make this happen; and until the majority of the people in this country get involved in a manner that really makes a difference, then anyone who is involved has to play by the rules as they are. Once those who have an "honest sense of duty for the people" are elected, then they will change the rules. The government is not some mysterious, unknown entity--it is us!

How successful were you both at stopping the Iraq war? Politicians don't pass legislation because the people want it, they pass it because somebody wrote them a check. Complaining doesn't solve the problem, you have to take the power away.

s I argue in Third World America, what we need is Hope 2.0: the realization that change will not come from Washi

But taking on the GOP's deficit hawks by hammering home the idea that job growth outweighs concerns about the deficit is clearly not Obama's natural inclination. So here comes Hope 2.0 -- the people have to make him do it.