Christian First?

Me dying because their religious ideas prevent me from getting a life saving medical procedure is a bit more worrisome.

I'm trying to get the right politicians elected, but the corporations and special interests are thwarting me at every turn.

Clearly you can't handle the responsibility of being able to get pregnant. They should pass a law against that. 😀

I love my country, and the fact that it allows everyone the right to voice their opinions....right, or wrong.

I have more faith in an omnipotent God, than in an omnipotent government though. I have belief, but don't connect to any man-modified, bastardized "religion". Call me what you will, but I'd rather believe and have faith, and find out I was wrong (and have you laugh at me all the while), than to have no belief or faith and find out I was wrong. Faith gives me comfort when "things" are beyond my "control"....without it, I'd probably be balled up in a corner, rocking, and rocking, and rocking....... If I'd have spent my life putting my faith in my "country" (assuming that it means the governing body), I'd be in a rubber room by now. While I don't claim to be an authority, I feel sure that those who draw an either/or line in the sand when it comes to the subject of God are so self-absorbed and close-minded to see that the truth is that nobody knows the answer of what is/was....and "history" is nothing more than a good novel.

For me, "God" is that little voice we all hear within ourselves that let's us know, instinctively, right from wrong.....without someone telling us which is which.

Clearly you can't handle the responsibility of being able to get pregnant. They should pass a law against that. 😀

And clearly a woman should be punished for letting herself get raped while she was fertile. She must have been something to deserve it, eh? Of course that harlot should have to carry that fine man's baby to term in those circumstances.

Just trying to clarify your position.

Odin is not pleased at all this blasphemy. Beware, heathen.

I had to look up who odin was- still am not quite sure, but got a chuckle out of it 😀

And clearly a woman should be punished for letting herself get raped while she was fertile. She must have been something to deserve it, eh? Of course that harlot should have to carry that fine man's baby to term in those circumstances.

Just trying to clarify your position.

If she were sterile, it wouldn't be an issue. They make sure this is the case in other parts of the world, places that embrace a more statist view of things, a view similar to your own? (Just trying to clarify your position using the same hubris, BTW.)

My original point was that even though politician try to enforce their views on us through law, we have stop gaps to prevent them from achieving their goals - the Constitution and the court. Undermine those systems and all bets are off. Democrats should think long and hard about this.

To me, it's not a coincidence that education is on the leaning edge in budget cuts all over the country. It serves a certain type of politician to keep the populace as uneducated as they can. What better way to get your understanding of the constitution than to watch Fox News, right? :sarc:

I do not believe this is necessarily so, and even if it is, it is an individual's responsibility to make sure he is aware of what is going on around him and how it affects him. If he doesn't do so, it is his loss. I, nor none of my friends, need to be, or are we, led around by the nose by those who are interested in the populace as a whole being protected. We think, act, and promote doing things for ourselves but are astute enough to realize there are times we all need help from someone. For some that help is from their God, for others their friends and compatriots. And yes, for some from the government, if that is what is needed. The narrowness noted so often here is, too me, unbelieveable. No one has all the right answers but there seems to be a definite trend in this country at this time away from individualism and self reliance. We all need the help of our fellow man at times but it is not a constant need. Education has always been at the forefront of our American society. It is no different today, though some changes in how it is offered may be called for at this point and that is what is really transpiring, not just a lack of funding.

I had to look up who odin was- still am not quite sure, but got a chuckle out of it 😀

Odin is a major god in Norse mythology, Fj?rgyn's baby daddy, pops to Thor, and the ruler of Asgard. Normally hangs out down at the Red Bar in Grayton on Thursday nights (he's the big burly bearded dude ordering flagons of something called 'mead'). Whatever you do, just don't get on his bad side with all his hurling of thunderbolts and whatnot.

I do not believe this is necessarily so, and even if it is, it is an individual's responsibility to make sure he is aware of what is going on around him and how it affects him. If he doesn't do so, it is his loss. I, nor none of my friends, need to be, or are we, led around by the nose by those who are interested in the populace as a whole being protected. We think, act, and promote doing things for ourselves but are astute enough to realize there are times we all need help from someone. For some that help is from their God, for others their friends and compatriots. And yes, for some from the government, if that is what is needed. The narrowness noted so often here is, too me, unbelieveable. No one has all the right answers but there seems to be a definite trend in this country at this time away from individualism and self reliance. We all need the help of our fellow man at times but it is not a constant need. Education has always been at the forefront of our American society. It is no different today, though some changes in how it is offered may be called for at this point and that is what is really transpiring, not just a lack of funding.

I'm not sure what your point is. My point is that the government of any country should have, as one of it's highest priority, the education of it's citizens. They should be educated in public schools, not by the television and the internet, which are basically commercial and entertainment media. I'm no internet research genius, but I'd be very curious to know just how much of our GDP goes to the proliferation of weapon systems as oppose to educational systems.

I do not believe this is necessarily so, and even if it is, it is an individual's responsibility to make sure he is aware of what is going on around him and how it affects him. If he doesn't do so, it is his loss. I, nor none of my friends, need to be, or are we, led around by the nose by those who are interested in the populace as a whole being protected. We think, act, and promote doing things for ourselves but are astute enough to realize there are times we all need help from someone. For some that help is from their God, for others their friends and compatriots. And yes, for some from the government, if that is what is needed. The narrowness noted so often here is, too me, unbelieveable. No one has all the right answers but there seems to be a definite trend in this country at this time away from individualism and self reliance. We all need the help of our fellow man at times but it is not a constant need. Education has always been at the forefront of our American society. It is no different today, though some changes in how it is offered may be called for at this point and that is what is really transpiring, not just a lack of funding.

Not all of us see the world through tea colored glasses.

I hear what you are saying but careful to judge. Many here and elsewhere use religion to further their spirituality and help provide a structure and a philosophy for life. It can be useful.

But when we think that we actually know all the answers, based on what our religion has taught us, we are very shortsighted.

I don't know the answer to your question and I never will.

I'm judging Rick Scott by his actions and the way he has lived his life. He has used religion to further his political ambitions and to crush ordinary folks who stand in his way.

I do not believe this is necessarily so, and even if it is, it is an individual's responsibility to make sure he is aware of what is going on around him and how it affects him. If he doesn't do so, it is his loss. I, nor none of my friends, need to be, or are we, led around by the nose by those who are interested in the populace as a whole being protected. We think, act, and promote doing things for ourselves but are astute enough to realize there are times we all need help from someone. For some that help is from their God, for others their friends and compatriots. And yes, for some from the government, if that is what is needed. The narrowness noted so often here is, too me, unbelieveable. No one has all the right answers but there seems to be a definite trend in this country at this time away from individualism and self reliance. We all need the help of our fellow man at times but it is not a constant need. Education has always been at the forefront of our American society. It is no different today, though some changes in how it is offered may be called for at this point and that is what is really transpiring, not just a lack of funding.

total hypocrisy from a former government worker

The original spin master. Even Jesus was for separation of church and state.

There is no God? really? but there is Jesus?

Don't be confused. I've never met an atheist who didn't believe there was a historic figure named Jesus.

It's kinda like Karol Wojtyla- he existed and he is credited with miracles and he will be regarded as a saint soon. But atheists don't believe he was anything more than a man.