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338Beach Fanatic
Almost exactly the same length of time I served but that is not the point you obviously missed. To call him a name and ignore his service to the citizens of this country, in my eyes, is a disgrace to his service. I don't care if you wouldn't vote for him or not. I do care that you dishonor his service just as I would if you dishonored yours or mine.
Allen West did the dishonor to himself in Taji, Iraq. Having subordinates beat a detainee should have gotten him jail time. Placing the same detainees head in a clearing barrel and firing his 9mm should have definitely sent him to jail. As it was 95 idiot REPUBLICAN Congress critters, who obviously have no clue about the treatment of enemy combatants, came to his defense and got him off easy.
If he had ended up with that and moved into civilian life with nothing else said, he'd have been forgotten. But he banks his actions in the Congress and on Fox News to those who know no better. Just like Ollie North, his actions in uniform lead to my contempt. Breaking the law, even to supposedly save your own, is still breaking the law and not worthy of a US military Officer or NCO.
I would have thought you'd know that.
EDIT: The investigating CID agents report: https://www.aclu.org/files/projects/foiasearch/pdf/DODDOACID000105.pdf
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I could understand someone like West losing it and doing wrong [and would cut him slack] if I thought he had changed, but I don't think he has. He's just a very hateful volatile person. I think and hope his political career is long gone.
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I am trying find where Local admits all abortions create dead babies. Since you are making the accusation, maybe you could help me out here. I'm reading a single sentence post claiming the pro-life movement uses dead babies in their propaganda. I see nothing that would lead to your interpretation.
specious semantics, I love that despite the fact that your entire ideology was
trounced last night you still are willing to pretend to parse another libs comments
to support your failed arguments...now run tell Daddy I was mean again....
you and I both know what he meant but since you can't
defend it so you pretend he meant nothing like it....classic
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specious semantics, I love that despite the fact that your entire ideology was trounced last night you still are willing to pretend to parse another libs comments to support your failed arguments...now run tell Daddy I was mean again.... you and I both know what he meant but since you can't defend it so you pretend he meant nothing like it....classic
It's not there and since you can't defend your accusation you retreat to some alternate strange dream world created only by your warped imagination. You have convinced yourself you possess an elevated status and everyone is out to get you, but you fend them off because you are some great conquerer. I would imagine you have a silly super hero costume you don in front of the mirror to admire yourself. Everyone sees through it and is amused by it. Now return to your sick wet dream fantasies of teenage girls.
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It's not there and since you can't defend your accusation you retreat to some alternate strange dream world created only by your warped imagination. You have convinced yourself you possess an elevated status and everyone is out to get you, but you fend them off because you are some great conquerer. I would imagine you have a silly super hero costume you don in front of the mirror to admire yourself. Everyone sees through it and is amused by it. Now return to your sick wet dream fantasies of teenage girls.
feel free to imagine anything you want, that you have no base in reality, that you have no idea how the world works, that you live in a liberal failed dream state is apparent to anyone that reads even two of your posts.
he/she/they said exactly what I read, as you did too, but it didn't fit your tiny,
myopic, crumbling idiotic fantasy of life in this country so as usual you ignore
it and pretend it's something else entirely, easy to do when your life is nothing
and you live as an angry impotent close-minded, hate filled anti-social recluse
now run quick lil' bit, before Daddy gets distracted with something important
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loving not being able to to edit grammar or spelling from my IPad, thanks Poppy's Daddy!
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You have convinced yourself you possess an elevated status and everyone is out to get you, but you fend them off because you are some great conquerer. I would imagine you have a silly super hero costume you don in front of the mirror to admire yourself.
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if you guys don't share a bed you certainly share a keyboard
3 minutes to puke up a response for your partner,
the melt down over the brutal loss is really got you two worked into a tizzy
3 minutes to puke up a response for your partner,
the melt down over the brutal loss is really got you two worked into a tizzy
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if you guys don't share a bed you certainly share a keyboard
3 minutes to puke up a response for your partner,
the melt down over the brutal loss is really got you two worked into a tizzy
There's the homophobia, want me to define that for you?
SoWal Insider
That's quite the leap.
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feel free to imagine anything you want, that you have no base in reality, that you have no idea how the world works, that you live in a liberal failed dream state is apparent to anyone that reads even two of your posts. he/she/they said exactly what I read, as you did too, but it didn't fit your tiny, myopic, crumbling idiotic fantasy of life in this country so as usual you ignore it and pretend it's something else entirely, easy to do when your life is nothing and you live as an angry impotent close-minded, hate filled anti-social recluse now run quick lil' bit, before Daddy gets distracted with something important
Damn! There certainly is a lot of anger in this post. Are you in some type of anger management therapy? Wait a minute, you are in therapy aren't you? But it's not anger, it's low self esteem. Strike that. It's worse, it's self loathing! Holy crap, that's it. You feel the world is against you so you are telling yourself you are worthy and you're lashing out at those who you feel have wronged you. Well lash away 'ducer, I would be honored to be of assistance in your mental health recovery. There is a cosplay convention in FWB this weekend. Put on your little costume and go enjoy yourself for while.
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I am retired. He is no longer my Commander-In-Chief. If I were on active duty we would not be having this discussion because it would be beyond reasonable purview to critize the President publicly. As far as the will of the American people is concerned, Tuesday's election clarified that mistake although it didn't change it. That would only come with impeachment which I neither expect or condone.
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YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ocaztxj87E
I don't know how I missed this yesterday. Thanks, it's perfect!
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I am retired. He is no longer my Commander-In-Chief. If I were on active duty we would not be having this discussion because it would be beyond reasonable purview to critize the President publicly. As far as the will of the American people is concerned, Tuesday's election clarified that mistake although it didn't change it. That would only come with impeachment which I neither expect or condone.
m1a1mg is former military as I am and we both agree West is a POS who disgraced himself. I don't understand why you feel he deserves some special privilege just because he once wore a uniform. If you wish to grant him special status do so, but you should not demand others do likewise.
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What pure unadulterated BS. I would expect no less from one who won't answer a direct question and spins to I have read this other places many times. You, Leader of the Banned, are also a real piece of work!
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What about Allen West? Do you still think I misrepresented the SOB?
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Look at your own post concerning his military court martial and article 15 procedure. He paid for what he did because he thought it was right. Read the last sentence of your post. "Retired with full benefits" And then you have the audacity to quote the daily kos, a recognized left wing site, as a "reliable source". Your own summation from wikipedia just abve that bit negate eveything it said. I am not a defender of what Allen West did. All of us retired military have had our moments of disagreement about one thing or another. You can't have served until retirement and not have had some darker moments, IMO. If you can state otherwise, at times, you might not have been doing your job.
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He paid for what he did by quitting, or else he would have been harshly disciplined. In my world, that's known as getting kicked out. West did what he thought was right, same as lots of other bad guys. The Daily kos article doesn't state anything contrary to the facts, so I fail to see your point on that one unless to you the facts aren't what matter. The Kos just happens to turn up the ridicule to a very high volume. In light of West's insane political rhetoric, I think that ridicule is well deserved.
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What pure unadulterated BS. I would expect no less from one who won't answer a direct question and spins to I have read this other places many times. You, Leader of the Banned, are also a real piece of work!
Ok, I have absolutely no idea what you are referring to.
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Andy complains about spin, but must point out in his rebuttal that the daily KOS is liberal. Apparently by reporting something if you are liberal it's now spin or false.
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Facts are facts. I don't care if they came from your object of worship or your Uncle Jed's arsehole.
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And I still have no idea what Andy is referring to.
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Andy complains about spin, but must point out in his rebuttal that the daily KOS is liberal. Apparently by reporting something if you are liberal it's now spin or false.
Yep.
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You and your ilk never cease to amaze me. You are definitely entitled to voice any opinion you desire under our 1st Amendment of the Constitution. But to call a gentleman and officer who spent most of his life "a deranged ahole" shows how little you value those who give you the right to say the things you say. What have you done to further the principles and values of this nation and the citizens of it? Have you spent one minute answering a call you might not personally believe in but did it anyway because it was your duty and obligation to do so? I have serious doubts you have. If you have, I stand corrected and if not you need to grow up, get a life and say a big "thanks for your effort" to those who have done so. That definitely includes "the deranged ahole" Lt. Col Allen West, USA (Retired) Forget the idea of banning people. I was mistaken. It is much better to allow you and one or two others to spew your ridiculous thought for all to thoughtfully analyze, see and reject.
You think your military service gives you license to be unilaterally inflammatory and abusive to others. How shameful! How Allen West-like.
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I note with interest that you not only think my military service gives me "licence" for certain unusual privliges but allows me to be abusive as well. It does not! What my American citizenship, our Constitution and our Bill of Rights allows me is the capablility to call out those with which I not only disagree, but find ill knowlegeable as well. That includes you and those that thank you for a ridiculous answer to a post supporting a fellow service man, whether I agree with him or not. I don't need you or any of your ilk calling anyone who has served this country a "deranged ahole", but then again, it shows your true colors. I stand by my post! BTW, I also note you didn't answer my question as to what you have done to further or support our nation. I'm sure, even you, have done something you consider commendable. Let us all hear it.
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