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Take Back America

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20 years ago this was satire. Today it's the GOP party platform.

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Lake View Too avatar
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#152
Are you talking about Condoleeza Rice, the Republican who was head of the National Security Agency when the 9-11 attack occurred, and Colin Powell, the Republican Secretary of State, who lied about WMDs to the United Nations, to "validate" the Iraq War. I just to make sure we are talking about the size and magnitude of Republican mistakes and Democrat mistakes. Got to watch out for "taint".
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#153
Why are you using the word "other" when speaking of intelligent posters?
There are many Conservatives out there who are arrogant and ill-informed and disrespect anyone who has not served in the military.
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#154
@Andy A - I figured it was because they were too embarrassed by their candidates, and/or have no sense of humor.

I would ask you which republican to vote for but I find "the lesser of 17 evils" exercise to be tiring.

I would consider a reverse trolley in this case. Kill 17 to save 1.
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#155
There will be no taunting when Hillary goes down
Never mind the taunting, what about the tainting? If she gets off Scott free, will you quit it with the tainting? Can you at least agree to that?
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Beach Lover
#156
I was disappointed to see Rand Paul leave the race - someone I can respect if not completely agree with.
Me too. Rand could have captured the Ron Paul very diverse base, but he tried to distance himself and in the very end brought his dad back in. It was too late.

I campaigned for Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012, not because he was a Republican, but because he was/is a Libertarian trying to work with in the one party system.

Both parties are the Big Spender party; one spends on the war machine, one spends domestically to create government dependency. They are both spending us into currency collapse and a third world existence, but in the short term there will be deflation (gas prices for one).
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Beach Lover
#157
For my politically interested friends, this first of a three part film is available free until Monday. It is called "A Very Heavy Agenda". It shows how the neocon influencers in DC shape policy in both Bush and Obama's administrations. With the Bush era it was under PNAC, Project for a New American Century. Under Obama it has been the Foreign Policy Initiative.

PLEASE watch this. It's not pro right or left, but you will more enlightened after watching it: A Very Heavy Agenda Part 1: A Catalyzing Event (2015)
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#158
Me too. Rand could have captured the Ron Paul very diverse base, but he tried to distance himself and in the very end brought his dad back in. It was too late.

I campaigned for Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012, not because he was a Republican, but because he was/is a Libertarian trying to work with in the one party system.

Both parties are the Big Spender party; one spends on the war machine, one spends domestically to create government dependency. They are both spending us into currency collapse and a third world existence, but in the short term there will be deflation (gas prices for one).
Is that Ron"Honest Rape" Paul you were pulling for?

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#159
I don't...I see no one worthy. The only guy I could lukewarmly get behind is Kasich and he's tainted as well.
I don't support any one candidate either. I know I will vote non-Republican as I do in all Presidential elections. If there was ever any doubt my decision is the correct one last night's GOP debate erased it. Watching the highlights I thought SNL had come on early. These clowns looked like first graders entering the stage and Rubio, my gosh, pathetic. Was there a pull string hanging from his back? The clear winner last night was Obama. Isn't it time for someone to tell these bozos he's not a candidate?
Beach Lover
#160
The Clintons have been persecuted for decades for political reasons. The other side will continue to try and get mud to stick to her. I would vote for Bernie and I'm glad he is getting serious consideration. Even if he is crushed by the right wing machine his message needs to be heard. Win or lose he will be remembered as an American hero. One day there will be a revolution. One day the moneyed elite will wish they had allowed political reform instead of facing the violence of a real revolution. Living behind walls counting your money is no way to live.

The erosion of America could continue for centuries without real revolution. But I believe we'll face such crises in the next 5 decades that will cause serious upheaval - disease, economic division, famine, poverty, sea level rise, natural disasters, terrorism - these are things that can cripple a nation and cause violence.

The circus that is this primary season reminds me of rats fighting on a sinking ship. The ship is steered by the corrupt system of our corporate-owned political system and has crashed into the rocks. Greed wins and we all lose.
Oh pity the poor Clintons! I am assuming you understand that Hillary is being investigated by the Obama administration? The real story about Hillary is her using her position as Sec of State to garner tens of millions of dollars from foreign entities for the Clinton Slush Fund. Oops, I meant Foundation.
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#161
Often enough, in really bad situations in which you're basically screwed, it's very easy to arrive at the correct decision. Bernie or Hillary are the two possible choices, and bernie is not going to get the nomination. Decisions like this practically make themselves.
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#162
Yep. Republicans wrong on Wall Street. Republicans wrong on the Middle East. The Economic Collapse happened at the end of eight years of "Conservative" banking de-regulation, and the quagmire in the Middle East is a direct result of the invasion of Iraq. "You break it, you buy it." My decision has been made for about 16 years now.
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#163
It is time for me to join other intelligent Conservatives, such as 30aShopper, and leave postings here to the misinformed Liberals. So
Wal is a great website for information. I shall now use it for that and leave posting to others who have little understanding of what this country is really all about, most of whom have never put forth any effort to defend or improve it, IMO.

30aShopper's political analysis was was horribly inaccurate most of the time. I would have to say the same about yours. You don't seem to have a grasp of how dreadfully awful GOP candidates have been and how their chances of winning in November are zero. You just go with who you think should win and then become enraged when your choices don't pan out. All you want to do is complain about the liberals, but we don't care, we just keep winning, and we're laughing about it. Why don't you take the time to size up your candidates? Did you actually think Ben Carson had a shot at winning? Your party keeps making the same mistakes over and over expecting a different result. But it's not just you, it's pretty much every conservative in Walton County. Can you at least admit that candidates like Trump and Cruz are a real problem for your party in terms of winning in November, regardless of whether you personally favor them over the likely democratic nominee? It's a big country. You ought to consider the voting patterns of people outside of your own little sphere.
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Beach Lover
#164
Is that Ron"Honest Rape" Paul you were pulling for?
Yes. That Ron Paul. Leader, in grand NWF Daily News "click bait" headline style, you put those two words in your question knowing that it is taken out of context. It was an real world answer from an OB/GYN who has delivered 4000 babies to a gotcha question used by the abortion advocate crowd.

But thanks for talking about Ron Paul. Any day. The Super Bowl Promotes War
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#165
Yes. That Ron Paul. Leader, in grand NWF Daily News "click bait" headline style, you put those two words in your question knowing that it is taken out of context. It was an real world answer from an OB/GYN who has delivered 4000 babies to a gotcha question used by the abortion advocate crowd.

But thanks for talking about Ron Paul. Any day. The Super Bowl Promotes War
No out of context he's a dick.
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#166
All honest dumb Conservative answers are "gotcha questions".
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#167
30aShopper's political analysis was was horribly inaccurate most of the time. I would have to say the same about yours. You don't seem to have a grasp of how dreadfully awful GOP candidates have been and how their chances of winning in November are zero. You just go with who you think should win and then become enraged when your choices don't pan out. All you want to do is complain about the liberals, but we don't care, we just keep winning, and we're laughing about it. Why don't you take the time to size up your candidates? Did you actually think Ben Carson had a shot at winning? Your party keeps making the same mistakes over and over expecting a different result. But it's not just you, it's pretty much every conservative in Walton County. Can you at least admit that candidates like Trump and Cruz are a real problem for your party in terms of winning in November, regardless of whether you personally favor them over the likely democratic nominee? It's a big country. You ought to consider the voting patterns of people outside of your own little sphere.

Said the party that trots out Hilary and Bernie..what a joke. GOP is comical huh? Have you watched thesee "debates"? That is the Dems best and brightest, only two were interested in the gig I guess.
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Beach FanaticAuthor
#168
Said the party that trots out Hilary and Bernie..what a joke. GOP is comical huh? Have you watched thesee "debates"? That is the Dems best and brightest, only two were interested in the gig I guess.

Oh yeah, whining is really going to help your cause LOL!
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#169
Bill Clinton yes the man who I would vote for in a heartbeat today if he were running and were eligible. So you helped create the mess we're in today by voting for Bush because you felt that Gore was endowed with some sort of evil spiritual energy?
brother bill and hillary forever!!! Tim Allen: The Clintons 'are like herpes' - CNNPolitics.com "Whereas the Clintons are like herpes: Just when you think they're gone, they show up again."
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#170
$153 million in Bill and Hillary Clinton speaking fees, documented - CNNPolitics.com
Hillary Clinton and her husband, former PresidentBill Clinton, combined to earn more than $153 million in paid speeches from 2001 until Hillary Clinton launched her presidential campaign last spring, a CNN analysis shows.

In total, the two gave 729 speeches from February 2001 until May, receiving an average payday of $210,795 for each address. The two also reported at least $7.7 million for at least 39 speeches to big banks, including Goldman Sachs and UBS, with Hillary Clinton, the Democratic 2016 front-runner, collecting at least $1.8 million for at least eight speeches to big banks.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#171
so the reasoning is the devil that suits me?
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Beach FanaticAuthor
#172
$153 million in Bill and Hillary Clinton speaking fees, documented - CNNPolitics.com
Hillary Clinton and her husband, former PresidentBill Clinton, combined to earn more than $153 million in paid speeches from 2001 until Hillary Clinton launched her presidential campaign last spring, a CNN analysis shows.

In total, the two gave 729 speeches from February 2001 until May, receiving an average payday of $210,795 for each address. The two also reported at least $7.7 million for at least 39 speeches to big banks, including Goldman Sachs and UBS, with Hillary Clinton, the Democratic 2016 front-runner, collecting at least $1.8 million for at least eight speeches to big banks.

Market forces at work.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#173
Never mind the taunting, what about the tainting? If she gets off Scott free, will you quit it with the tainting? Can you at least agree to that?
if Obama does not pull the lever on her, she will get off scott free from the judicial perspective, but her campaign will suffer greatly. either way, she's done.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#174
Market forces at work.
corruption, not market forces...
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Beach FanaticAuthor
#175
if Obama does not pull the lever on her, she will get off scott free from the judicial perspective, but her campaign will suffer greatly. either way, she's done.
I'd love to see how Trump or Cruz could beat her. It would be very interesting. I can't grasp how it would be mathematically possible just looking at it state by state. Could some Republican somewhere beat her? Yep. Could any of the Republicans in the running beat her? I say nope. Just a cold hard dose of reality.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#176
I'd love to see how Trump or Cruz could beat her. It would be very interesting. I can't grasp how it would be mathematically possible just looking at it state by state. Could some Republican somewhere beat her? Yep. Could any of the Republicans in the running beat her? I say nope. Just a cold hard dose of reality.
there's no way Cruz could beat her...I expect Trump to flame out soon enough.

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