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30ashopper

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Apr 30, 2008
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Right here!
Prices though aren't going to plummet, but they may fall bit more, while inflation eats away at value.
 

scooterbug44

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May 8, 2007
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Yeah, the article thought it would only lower prices by maybe 5% - not forecasting huge drops or anything.

And their estimate of foreclosure numbers was lower than those you just posted too.

That was a rather sudden shift to "Joe bashing" - I only brought them up because their stock price was mentioned as the only evidence that the article was wrong.

Didn't think it was any secret that I am not a fan of most big corporations or the type of thinking they typify. Papa Scooterbug calls it the "MBA mentality," when short term balance sheets and poorly thought out new policies from management needing to make their mark trump long term planning, common sense, and local/community needs.
 
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WoolyFSU

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I'm no expert, and not a realtor, but I have lived in the area since 1987 and seen the many ups and downs of the market here. Unfortunately I graduated college and came home to find the now infamous "up" in 2004. I remember looking for a place to buy that summer and in doing a search in Okaloosa county the only thing I could find under $200,000 was a 1964 trailer on a quarter acre in Val-p. I also drove through sowal trying to find "hidden" locations that only us locals knew about, only to find lots well north of 30a for $300,000+. I cant begin to tell you how dis-heartening it was to discover that I had been priced out of the area I grew up in and love. I was continually urged by friends and family to still buy whatever I could to flip and strike while the iron was hot, but my morals got in the way (in hindsight a good thing). I thought then as I do know, that a home should be just that, a home. A place that you buy to live, enjoy, raise a family, etc. Unfortunately its taking this housing "recession" for more people to realize this. Money comes and goes but a home should be a more permanent fixture in our lives. I began looking again this past week for properties and from what I've seen thus far I have to agree with the 2011 forecast. After going through parcel map after parcel map on the property appraisers website its obvious that there is still some trouble ahead. Its amazing to see how many properties are owned by banks, and also seeing how much some of them were purchased for. In all honesty I think its a good thing though, as the uncertainty will hopefully keep away the fly by night investors, allowing those of us that live and love it here to once again have the chance to own a piece of property in this paradise we call home, the only catch being that financing is more of a challenge and will continue to be for some if not all of 2011. Another challenge the market is facing is deliquent property taxes. Anyone familiar with the process knows that holders of tax liens have to wait two years before they can petition the court for a foreclosure/forced sale. I think we will see a spike in these in 2011 as holders of 2008 tax liens (a year of very high prop taxes) can begin this process mid year. I truly hope that there is a silver lining behind all of this, and believe there is in the form a more communal community, where our residents are more permanent which in turn forms a more involved and tightly knit sowal.

Thats simply my two cents and hope 2011 is a year where balance is found, dreams become realities, and homes become homes again...and hopefully I can find my own!
 

DuneAHH

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WoolyFSU- Good Luck! Here's hoping you're able to find the perfect home! There are silver linings to nearly every cloud.

(I would encourage folks to approach any financing needs with LOCALLY known lenders... private even.)
 

Miss Critter

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Wooly, I agree with everything you said. The problem is that there are way more housing units here (in sowal, I mean) than can be supported by local residents alone, based on available jobs. And those jobs don't pay anywhere near what it takes to pay the notes on those houses, even in this down market. I took a retail job for the Christmas season, and my found most of my coworkers are working two and three jobs just to pay rent - forget about ownership. Perhaps you were referring only to flippers in your post, and I think we an agree that that market is all but dead right now. But unless and until the job situation here changes dramatically, we will need all the investors we can find to ease us out of this mess. We are, for better or worse, a vacation destination. And as such, full-time resident owners will remain in the minority.
 

30ashopper

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I don't expect large drops in pricing but I do expect more volume of better priced homes, and a lot of bumping along the price bottom as things continue to stabilize. There's no need to rush in, prices aren't going to suddenly head northward any day soon. The local market will be stuck in a bottom forming phase for another two or three years.
 

30ashopper

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Apr 30, 2008
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Right here!
I would also add that just because a property is for sale by a bank, doesn't mean the price is set properly. I see a lot of property, particularly lots, listed too high. The banks though tend to be more reasonable, I also see REOs selling for deep discounts off list!
 

Miss Critter

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Pricing may stay low, but what about mortgage interest rates. Aren't they expected to rise? What's the best guess as to how much and how fast? Will rising rates exert more downward pressure on prices?
 

robertsondavies

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I don't expect large drops in pricing but I do expect more volume of better priced homes, and a lot of bumping along the price bottom as things continue to stabilize. There's no need to rush in, prices aren't going to suddenly head northward any day soon. The local market will be stuck in a bottom forming phase for another two or three years.

good luck to you sir, seriously. I doubt you'll get your wish. happy shopping.
 
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