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sarawind

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Here4Good - First couple sentences in my post tell me what I like about this lady that I cannot vote for as I do not live in Neveda. Do you?

I like all of her platform and don't believe the alcohol thingy. Got a source? Even if true, I'm not a johnny-one-note voter as no politician is perfect.
 

ugabuga

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sarawind

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I've been trying to correct a typo in above post but just keep getting a white screen.

The UN - a huge financial drain on us and a good idea good bad.
Social Security needs reforming if it can even be saved. Bush wanted to but Congress wouldn't.
Medicare - Obama will be the ruination of that .
Smaller gov't is good. Get rid of those useless departments
Global warming has been proved a hoax. Man is not more powerful than Mother Nature.
Abortion is not a litmus test for me.
Love the cut taxes and spending
Nobody's taking my margarita
 

Here4Good

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Here4Good - First couple sentences in my post tell me what I like about this lady that I cannot vote for as I do not live in Neveda. Do you?

Yes, after I asked you what you specifically liked, since the radio interview said nothing, you said:

What I like about Sharron is she a true Conservative who loves our Constitution.​

What does that mean, pragmatically, on a rubber-meets-the-road basis? I hear this all of the time, and it's just a bumper sticker, read out loud. I have yet to hear a reasonable platform which states what laws that means you want to enact or repeal.

It's like Hope and Change, just on the other side. There's no "there" there and I'm getting tired of hearing it parroted at me.

No, I don't live in Nevada. It's all moot to me.
 

sarawind

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Here4Good, I expect if you truly wanted to understand conservatism you would have researched it for yourself but I will give it a go for you.

Modern liberals believe truths are transitory and empirically determined, equality is desirable and attainable only through the action of the "state"and all peoples and societies should strive to organize themselves upon a rationalist and scientific paradigm.

Conservatism is based on the philosophy of freedom, individuality, enterprise, the sense of community, the sanctity of the family, the supremacy of the conscience, the spiritual view of life.

Hope this sets you free.
 

Lake View Too

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Here4Good, I expect if you truly wanted to understand conservatism you would have researched it for yourself but I will give it a go for you.

Modern liberals believe truths are transitory and empirically determined, equality is desirable and attainable only through the action of the "state"and all peoples and societies should strive to organize themselves upon a rationalist and scientific paradigm.

Conservatism is based on the philosophy of freedom, individuality, enterprise, the sense of community, the sanctity of the family, the supremacy of the conscience, the spiritual view of life.

Hope this sets you free.

How did "supremacy of the conscience and the spiritual view of life" play out in the invasion of Iraq?
 

Rita

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Modern liberals believe truths are transitory and empirically determined, equality is desirable and attainable only through the action of the "state"and all peoples and societies should strive to organize themselves upon a rationalist and scientific paradigm.

Conservatism is based on the philosophy of freedom, individuality, enterprise, the sense of community, the sanctity of the family, the supremacy of the conscience, the spiritual view of life.
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Up From Liberalism by William F. Buckley, Jr.


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AlphaCrab

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Here4Good, I expect if you truly wanted to understand conservatism you would have researched it for yourself but I will give it a go for you.

Modern liberals believe truths are transitory and empirically determined, equality is desirable and attainable only through the action of the "state"and all peoples and societies should strive to organize themselves upon a rationalist and scientific paradigm.

Conservatism is based on the philosophy of freedom, individuality, enterprise, the sense of community, the sanctity of the family, the supremacy of the conscience, the spiritual view of life.

Hope this sets you free.

Is that why their chosen leaders end up looking for sex in airport bathrooms, have affairs in far away places, and hit on teenage male pages in the Capitol. Conservatives believe only in the "sanctity" of their own self preservation, everyone else be damned.

P.S. You should probably use quotations when using other peoples words and thoughts.
 
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sarawind

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The question asked was answered. Thank you Mr. Buckley.. We have differing views here and that's a good thing. Embrace and cherish your freedom to express them because Obama is trying to take them away. As far as the Iraq war, I'm delighted Saddam and his evil sons are with all the virgins. Alpha, elicit sex is not the best subject to drag out to make your point as democrats are waay ahead in that department. You are so very misinformed if you believe conservatives are only for themselves. Have you discovered that this administration and their useful idiots are working very hard to divide us? Divide and conquer. Check out who they call their useful idiots.
 

ugabuga

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Jun 4, 2010
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Modern liberals believe truths are transitory and empirically determined, equality is desirable and attainable only through the action of the "state"and all peoples and societies should strive to organize themselves upon a rationalist and scientific paradigm.

Conservatism is based on the philosophy of freedom, individuality, enterprise, the sense of community, the sanctity of the family, the supremacy of the conscience, the spiritual view of life.

I don't agree w/ the definitions proffered, BUT I like the fact that both "individuality" AND "sense of community" are BOTH in a single definition.

It seems to me that a very important key to "getting government right" is properly balancing individualism and community.

We can argue about what the right balance is--but I hope most of us can agree that it should not be totally one or totally the other.

I personally think a civilized society ought to ensure the following for all its citizens: health care; education; access to the legal system. Most conservatives tend to think these things ought to be individual responsibilities.
 
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