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scooterbug44

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Papa Scooterbug forwarded this on - he got it from his stockbroker.

Thought the analysis of liability and who was involved etc. was interesting, though don't know that I agree based on the way everyone is frothing to sue BP and blame them for everything including the drink they dropped when they heard the news.

After the Gulf disaster. Wall Street was too hard on BP and Transocean

"The market values of the affected companies have declined by a total of more than $40 billion since the spill on April 20. That seems very high relative to the potential cost of the cleanup, economic damages and fines.

In a note on BP (ticker: BP) Friday, Bernstein analyst Neil McMahon wrote that the recent loss of $25 billion in BP's market cap is "extreme" relative to a potential worse-case cost of $12.5 billion for the spill, of which BP's share is roughly $8 billion before tax benefits. Other analysts have put lower cost estimates
on the spill. BP has a 65% interest in the field with Anadarko Petroleum (APC) holding a 25% stake and Japan's Mitsui, 10%. Transocean (RIG) owned the deep-water Horizon rig that was destroyed in a gas-related explosion, killing 11 workers.

Transocean initially showed little reaction to the disaster because BP, as the operator of the rig, takes prime responsibility for the costs of the spill and because Transocean has insurance for the rig, which has an estimated value of about $500 million, plus $700 million of environmental liability insurance. Investors then began to worry that the explosion and spill could have been caused by errors by Transocean, as well as equipment failure.

Cameron International (CAM), the maker of a blowout preventer that may not have operated as designed, saw its shares fall almost eight points to 39.46 last week, cutting about $2 billion from its capitalization. Halliburton (HAL), which was involved in cementing the well, also got hit, dropping four points to 30.62 and losing more than $3 billion from its value. Cameron and Halliburton are down but they aren't cheap stocks, trading for 17 and 20 times estimated 2010 profits, respectively.

While there could be damaging political and financial repercussions from the spill, Wall Street may have overreacted, and that could mean opportunity in shares of BP, Transocean and other affected companies."
 
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so i guess there not mentioning the lingering liability and possible economic long term liability from property owners to buiness owners? worst case scnerio you're talking loses of $10-$15 bil a yr for 5 yrs min. but anyone invloced in stock lawsuits knows you're lucky to get 5 cent son the $ of loses
 

scooterbug44

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This analyst/article seemed to think that BP's total maximunm liability is $8 billion.

IMO they should pay any and all cleanup and legitimate losses with no cap, but that does not seem to be the case. :dunno:

The full article explains it more.
 

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scooterbug44

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In a not so surprising twist that everyone saw coming, the 3 major companies involved (Haliburton, Transocean, and BP) are all blaming each other for the spill. :sarc:

Oil companies pass the buck for Gulf spill - Gulf oil spill- msnbc.com

Transocean says it's BP's and Haliburton's fault.

Haliburton and BP says it's Transocean's fault.

Haliburton says it performed the work in accordance with BP's requirements and industry practices.

BP says they got approval from the federal Mineral Management Service for everything.

Those who think they will "make BP pay" might want to pack a lunch (or several thousand) before they go wait by the mailbox for that check. :roll:
 

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Right here!
In a not so surprising twist that everyone saw coming, the 3 major companies involved (Haliburton, Transocean, and BP) are all blaming each other for the spill. :sarc:

Oil companies pass the buck for Gulf spill - Gulf oil spill- msnbc.com

Transocean says it's BP's and Haliburton's fault.

Haliburton and BP says it's Transocean's fault.

Haliburton says it performed the work in accordance with BP's requirements and industry practices.

BP says they got approval from the federal Mineral Management Service for everything.

Those who think they will "make BP pay" might want to pack a lunch (or several thousand) before they go wait by the mailbox for that check. :roll:

Just wait until all the false claims start rolling in on top of any legitimate claims, bogging everything down. The whole thing will last longer than the katrina / insurance litigation, which is probably still going on to this day.
 

scooterbug44

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Just wait until all the false claims start rolling in on top of any legitimate claims, bogging everything down. The whole thing will last longer than the katrina / insurance litigation, which is probably still going on to this day.

You mean like certain condo owners suing for lost business from the day the explosion occurred? ;-)

As far as I know, it took 5 years to get the initial ruling on the 1989 Valdez spill and BP appealed it through June of 2009.
 
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30ashopper

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You mean like certain condo owners suing for lost business from the day the explosion occurred? ;-)

As far as I know, it took 5 years to get the initial ruling on the 1989 Valdez spill and BP appealed it through June of 2009.

Yep. I've already overheard some conversations along those lines. This whole thing is a trial lawyer's wet dream.
 

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Rick Perry: Oil spill may be 'act of God' - Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com


Perry questioned whether the spill was “just an act of God that occurred” and said that any “politically driven” decisions could put the U.S. in further economic peril.
“From time to time there are going to be things that occur that are acts of God that cannot be prevented,” Perry said.


Guess we know which "three kings" backsides the Republican Texas Governor has his lips firmly placed on....
 

scooterbug44

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Well, if it is an "act of God" that changes a lot - as the various insurance and travel agencies are classifying as an "act of man" which means they don't have to pay for it. ;-)

God may act in mysterious ways, but I don't think a divine power is responsible for this one. We keep finding out that it was a clusterpuck at every single point..............not to mention that there was no safety net or back-up plan.

This is not a case of one thing going wrong in an inexplicable way - like a bolt of lightning starting a forest fire. This is the park ranger knowing that crackheads like to light off fireworks inside the wood shelter that doesn't have smoke alarms, fire extinguishers, or water while cooking meth indoors next to a pile of gasoline soaked rags during a drought.
 
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