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Will B

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Jan 5, 2006
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Yeah...that was the Litmus test. It didn't go so well for the Obama team. We might see them try one more, but if it goes as well as this one, the public backlash will be pretty severe.
 

beachmouse

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Dec 5, 2004
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It was pointed out that evidence gathered by what's deemed torture is also inadmissable in military courts. (Also allegedly the evidence gotten from a 'poisoned tree') So not sure how a military couty could have done much better with the test case.

And the one guilty is enough to get him life in prison. (provided there isn't some sort of oil for terrorist swap down the road ala the surviving Lockerbie bomber)
 

Will B

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Jan 5, 2006
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1..."could be sentenced to life" not will be...
2...cleared of 287 other counts despite being directly tied to the bombings in Africa.
 

scooterbug44

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May 8, 2007
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He's getting a minimum of 20 years in prison and could get life and the reason he WASN'T convicted was that they didn't have the evidence to make the case.

The lack of admissible evidence is true whether it is a civilian OR military court.

Frankly it's pretty embarrassing they couldn't present a better case considering his supposed resume.
 

Andy A

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Feb 28, 2007
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They couldn't find him guilty as the judge threw out the only creditable witness. I have a solution. Let's release all Gitmo detainees and then when we encounter them again in a combat area, shoot them. In the meantime until they are shot, they can continue to kill American troops. There problem solved.
 
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scooterbug44

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We put him in prison for decades and did it by following all the rules to the letter and without using any information or testimony obtained through questionable means.

I consider that a victory on 2 levels. (Though I must admit I would like to now put him in with the general population ;-) and save some tax dollars.)

And if we change HOW we get information (aka not torturing) we could have credible witnesses.
 

Andy A

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Feb 28, 2007
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I am going to say this once and then be quiet. During my escape and evasion exercise in 1963, some of my comrades were water boarded to show what it would be like and its affects. They all survived. At that time, it was not considered "torture" but a very effective interogation method. Times and attitudes have changed but that does not relieve the usefulness of a technique of interogation no longer acceptable because we might hurt an enemy's psyche.
 
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