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scooterbug44

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May 8, 2007
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This was part of the response FROM THE SHERIFF based on earlier comments on the thread. Emeraldcoastdav posted it in #85. Sounds like we are staffed just fine and personnel are shifted around based on varying demand:

Roughly around 65,000 as an average winter population. When comparing counties you have to make sure you are comparing apples to apples so to speak. Gadsden and Hendry county are hardly comparable for a number of reasons. First one would have to assume that they are receiving appropriate funding. I have spent quite a bit of time in Gadsden. Secondly the amount of calls for service is a large factor. Additionally Walton county is one of the largest land mass counties in the state with over 1000 square miles. There are also police departments in Quincy,Havana, Gretna, Sneads and Midway.

Many of the functions of the sheriff's office are not in necessarily directly. In public view. For instance there are 10 school resource deputies and 9 bailiffs. While all are sworn deputies their use is largely dictated by there assignment. This a product of the sheriff's office function as both court security and civil enforcement. Additionally we have 2 deputies who serve civil process and two who serve warrants full time (app 7000 un-served). We have several other areas like the above listed. From roughly April thru Sept we begin to split time or reassign as staffing allows. As I have said before SRO's , Civil process, warrants, traffic, and other functions are diverted to patrol as needed as that function is our priority.

There are 2085 man hours in a work year. We cover 365 days plus must maintain coverage for both training, illness, vacation and vacancies. It roughly takes 6 positions to fill every slot on every squad, to fully staff patrol 24 hours a day , 7 days a week. Patrol is currently staffed with 81 positions from the Captain down. Supplementary units such as Beach, Traffic and SRO are diverted t assist as described above and below. For instance crime prevention services and extradition gets scheduled around calls for service. I will say that while there is room for improvement I am very confident that we are very professionally represented when compared to other counties. A large reason for this is training. The state mandates certain levels of training not all counties are fully meeting those requirements. We are."

 

emeraldcoastdav

Beach Lover
Apr 4, 2006
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Scooter,
I don't know where you've been. Housing growth other then what was already on the books stopped 3-4 years ago here. Didn't you notice? Tourism or at least the money they spend seems to be down since gas hit 3.00 a gallon a couple of years ago.
People have moved away to follow work. I not saying it won't come back and we should be prepared but are the numbers spent now just? That is rhetorical.
 

emeraldcoastdav

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Apr 4, 2006
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FF2
I did suggest one solution, or part of the solution, in previous statements. I think there could be a solution to to the winter / summer ratio as well. We are not the only seasonal tourist location in the country. In fact in the state. And our great state is geographicly so large we even have opposing tourist seasons from north to south. For example, tourist season is in winter in areas south ov Tampa. The tourist industry there has the same issue as we do except opposite seasons. Think of the possabilities.
 

emeraldcoastdav

Beach Lover
Apr 4, 2006
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To my opposition in this debate: I suspect we hang in different circles. I think the issues we have discussed effect my friends and family different then yours. I don't beleive we are a lawless crowd or want to do anything to hurt anyone. I may be one of the few (working stiffs) writing, but I assure you I don't stand alone.
 

Beauty hunter

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May 3, 2009
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The officers in Walton County cannot work 6 mths. out of the year. They are already underpaid as it is, considering they are on the front lines locally. If anything, in this branch of the government, I think they deserve more pay. They are not loafing around during the off season, as we can tell from the current events. They are employed to uphold the law, not change it.
I don't think anyone is excluding you because of what is bothering you or that you are not part of this community and accepted for who you are. Kurt vouched for you and he doesn't pull any punches. Also, you are a U.S. citizen(didn't mention you weren't), and have the right to say what you think.
If you feel you have been treated unjustly, get an attorney and check on your rights so the situation at hand can be remedied. We can only hear you, but are unable to take action for you. This is why the laws are in place, to protect our rights. If you feel the laws are unjust, again, check with an attorney to see what you can do about changing them.
Complaining is the road to nowhere. There is nothing wrong with talking about a situation, but at some point action needs to be taken if you really want a solution. Real change occurs when YOU do something about it. You may be the leader in the band for change with a following, and then again, it may be just you. It depends on how much you want to see change and what you are willing to do to bring it about, in a legal way that is. :wave: :D
It's easy to talk, much harder to actually get the job done.
 

scooterbug44

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May 8, 2007
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Scooter,
I don't know where you've been. Housing growth other then what was already on the books stopped 3-4 years ago here. Didn't you notice? Tourism or at least the money they spend seems to be down since gas hit 3.00 a gallon a couple of years ago.
People have moved away to follow work. I not saying it won't come back and we should be prepared but are the numbers spent now just? That is rhetorical.
Yes, but you were using population stats from 2000 to back up your arguments. While the population may have dropped in recent years, it is still an increase from then.

FF2
I did suggest one solution, or part of the solution, in previous statements. I think there could be a solution to to the winter / summer ratio as well. We are not the only seasonal tourist location in the country. In fact in the state. And our great state is geographicly so large we even have opposing tourist seasons from north to south. For example, tourist season is in winter in areas south ov Tampa. The tourist industry there has the same issue as we do except opposite seasons. Think of the possabilities.

The Sheriff already said that they shift personnel seasonally within our county and that they have a backlog of certain year round duties like serving paperwork. They aren't sitting around twiddling their thumbs and it would be much more expensive (and detrimental to families) to be sending personnel all over the state because of a perceived lack of demand during certain seasons.

To my opposition in this debate: I suspect we hang in different circles. I think the issues we have discussed effect my friends and family different then yours. I don't beleive we are a lawless crowd or want to do anything to hurt anyone. I may be one of the few (working stiffs) writing, but I assure you I don't stand alone.

Most of the people responding to you are also "working stiffs" whose jobs and friends probably overlap with yours - they just have a different opinion on this.
 

emeraldcoastdav

Beach Lover
Apr 4, 2006
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This is a forum to debate.
I did not bring up my personal issues untill asked.
I do think both teachers and cops are under paid.
I don't think cops just sit around in the winter. See my opening statement.(cops aren't bored).
Lawyers cost lots of money.
See candidate Adkinson's opening paragraphs in the political section of this site.
I am doing something about it!
 

Bob Wells

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Jul 25, 2008
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I did suggest one solution, or part of the solution, in previous statements. I think there could be a solution to to the winter / summer ratio as well. We are not the only seasonal tourist location in the country. In fact in the state. And our great state is geographicly so large we even have opposing tourist seasons from north to south. For example, tourist season is in winter in areas south ov Tampa. The tourist industry there has the same issue as we do except opposite seasons. Think of the possabilities.

So when your business is slow, you pack up the family, vacate the home you rent or own, go someplace else because you think things are going to be different. Come on you really need to be serious.:rofl: So rather than being a migrant farm worker, we'll have migrant cops, teachers, firefighters, county employees, county road workers. Yeah the possibilities are endless. They have unemployment in Tampa too, they also have cops there also, what will those folks do?
 
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emeraldcoastdav

Beach Lover
Apr 4, 2006
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F2
I'm starting to beleive your here simply to say ney to any thoughts I have. I've taken the time to pull rest stats that suggest my thoughts might be accurate.
I've stated my position and you keep trying to call it something else. I offered a partial solution to expenditures that are way out of control. I ve shown by these expenditures that I am probably accurate about the police to citizen ratios from summer to winter,
I have shown that our on good Sheriff thought their was a need to control the money spent, when he ran for this office. I keep showing facts that support my thoughts. You keep wanting to insult me or act like my statements are unrealistic.
You have offered no facts, you have offered nothing but emotion.
 
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