D?j? vu all over again?

[traderx]

...He came off like a grumpy old man preaching to a choir of negative Nancies. He's paying someone to advise him to do things like this, and that person needs to be replaced pronto.

True dat.

 

[30ashopper]

As superficial as this may seem, I do not think I can bear to listen to John McCain for 4 years for that very same reason you mention. Both Obama and Clinton speak with an intelligence and have communication skill far beyond what we have seen in recent years. McCain is a solid, patriotic, kindly old gentlemen, but even with good speech writers, the deivery, and therefore the message, is somewhat "off.' I would avoid as many debates as possible with Obama if I were McCain that is for sure!

Actually McCain has shown in the past that he is a very good debater. In fact I'd argue that it's Obama who should (and I believe is) trying to avoid a large number of election debates. He has not performed as well as Clinton in those.

McCain's big problem is he can't deliver a good speech, which has always been an issue for him. He should be avoid that and stick with the small town forums he is good at. To make matters worse, it appears his campaign is being run by complete idiots who aren't paying attention to the other candidates.

Any sane human being would not have held that rally last night. The obvious differences between McCain with a old people in a room and Obama's and Clinton's rallys in huge auditoriums with cheering crowds was too painful to watch... and I told em so this moring when I mailed them.

 

[30ashopper]

True dat.

Ditto.

 

[30ashopper]

I thought the following review (from http://http://www.dailykos.com/) was spot on:



Who is setting up these events and making these decisions? I mean, to go to the Yat haven, white suburb of Kenner and speak in a small venue with a half-set up...a place where the biggest event of the year is the gun and boat show...and speak to an all white crowd, some of whom couldn't be bothered to remove their baseball caps...and call in New Orleans. And to do it on a night to set up a contrast to Obama at the site of the Republican Convention, on the night he secures the nomination.

He came off like a grumpy old man preaching to a choir of negative Nancies. He's paying someone to advise him to do things like this, and that person needs to be replaced pronto.

The good news is, this criticism is out there and McCain can't possibly miss it. Fox of course, didn't have anything negative to say. That really made me mad too.

 

[Beach Runner]

Does anyone out there know if there is a correlation between being a great speaker and being a great president?

If I had been voting based on who was the best speaker, I would have definitely voted for Bill Clinton. He used to be such a smooth speaker who could also relate to the masses, despite his Ivy League education.

Lately ... well, I've read that he might have suffered a little brain damage due to his heart surgery. It happens.

 

[seagrovegirl]

Reagan was the best speaker! The USA needs a diplomat...which IMO includes being a good speaker.

 

[Linda]

Does anyone out there know if there is a correlation between being a great speaker and being a great president?

If I had been voting based on who was the best speaker, I would have definitely voted for Bill Clinton. He used to be such a smooth speaker who could also relate to the masses, despite his Ivy League education.

Lately ... well, I've read that he might have suffered a little brain damage due to his heart surgery. It happens.

I have never based my vote on who is the best orator and it looks like this year is no exception.

 

[ItzKatzTime]

Although I am not a Republican I can honestly say that this morning I heard a "Town Meeting" where McCain was giving a speech in La. and he sounded 100% better then he did last night. They all have their times and nobody's voice grates on my nerves more then George W. Bush.

This morning at the AIPEC conference all three sounded strong like someone had lit a fire under them.

It's going to get really interesting!

 

[goofer]

Does anyone out there know if there is a correlation between being a great speaker and being a great president?

If I had been voting based on who was the best speaker, I would have definitely voted for Bill Clinton. He used to be such a smooth speaker who could also relate to the masses, despite his Ivy League education.

Lately ... well, I've read that he might have suffered a little brain damage due to his heart surgery. It happens.

I am not being disrespectful but the tone of this thread is extremely superficial. One of the great presidents of the 20th century was Harry Truman....not known for his oratorical skills or charisma. Character, integrity and judgement were his strong points. Franklin Roosevelt, argueably one of our top 3 presidents, was physically challenged and was a shell of a man in 1945. Yet he is a giant in the eyes of history. The tone of this thread would have dismissed these 2 great men as insignificant because of their style or looks. Substance and character are the hallmarks of greatness. McCain has all the traits to be a great president. Obama has all the hallmarks of being a great president but I believe he needs more experience in the ways of govt and the ways of politics on a global scale. Lets listen to what the candidates say and ignore what they look like or what they are wearing or how tall and good looking they are. We are blessed to have 2 excellent choices this year....but I think we need to focus on their ideas and policies and not on their looks and style. I admire Obama greatly but I believe he is not ready now. Of course my opinion may change as the debates begin. I will keep an open mind. But my decision will be made of substance and not style.

 

[traderx]

I am not being disrespectful but the tone of this thread is extremely superficial. One of the great presidents of the 20th century was Harry Truman....not known for his oratorical skills or charisma. Character, integrity and judgement were his strong points. Franklin Roosevelt, argueably one of our top 3 presidents, was physically challenged and was a shell of a man in 1945. Yet he is a giant in the eyes of history. The tone of this thread would have dismissed these 2 great men as insignificant because of their style or looks. Substance and character are the hallmarks of greatness. McCain has all the traits to be a great president. Obama has all the hallmarks of being a great president but I believe he needs more experience in the ways of govt and the ways of politics on a global scale. Lets listen to what the candidates say and ignore what they look like or what they are wearing or how tall and good looking they are. We are blessed to have 2 excellent choices this year....but I think we need to focus on their ideas and policies and not on their looks and style. I admire Obama greatly but I believe he is not ready now. Of course my opinion may change as the debates begin. I will keep an open mind. But my decision will be made of substance and not style.

I will respond since I am the starter of this superficial thread.

Truman and Roosevelt were presidents before the television age which is the point of my opening post. McCain is a war hero and I believe to be an honorable man but he has a boring, monotone delivery. Obama will likely come across better on the tube. As for substance, I cannot comment. I have not seen enough of Obama to know what to expect.

For the record, I support neither of these men and will continue to support the Libertarian ticket.