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CartoonMark

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Apr 11, 2012
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Your propensity to defame your enemies, spread rumors, lies, and half truths has everything to do with this thread.
 

Kaydence

Beach Fanatic
Jan 19, 2017
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Your propensity to defame your enemies, spread rumors, lies, and half truths has everything to do with this thread.

When or if you can prove I lied about any thing please do so. My enemies (as you call them) have done quite the hachet job on themselves by calling employers of a council member and spreading the BS all by themselves.

Your cartoon tells me your agenda. You have never spoken to me, so if you believe something someone told you I've said then that's on them and you for believing it. Try asking me what I said rather than the crap you choose to believe.

My posts are the record of what I've said.

In the interim of you proving I've lied, I'm done with this and you.
 

CartoonMark

Beach Lover
Apr 11, 2012
106
47
When or if you can prove I lied about any thing please do so. My enemies (as you call them) have done quite the hachet job on themselves by calling employers of a council member and spreading the BS all by themselves.

Your cartoon tells me your agenda. You have never spoken to me, so if you believe something someone told you I've said then that's on them and you for believing it. Try asking me what I said rather than the crap you choose to believe.

My posts are the record of what I've said.

In the interim of you proving I've lied, I'm done with this and you.
Your toxic postings on this site are all the 'proof' anyone needs.
 

Kaydence

Beach Fanatic
Jan 19, 2017
1,415
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Your toxic postings on this site are all the 'proof' anyone needs.

Just as I thought.... you don't like what I have to say so, you (like about 10 or 15 others) calling themselves the City Corruption Cleanup Crew have to make it appear I am spreading lies, rumors and innuendos with NO proof that I have done any of those things.

Admittedly, the truth is not always pleasant and in politics it is or certainly can be toxic (as you call it) but that doesn't make it any less true.

Want some more truth bombs?

The group calling itself "C4ward" has launched a smear campaign against the City Council (Bob Campbell excluded because that's their buddy) saying they "lack the qualifications". That's a lie!

Truth is every member of the City Council "qualified" through the Supervisor of Elections office to run for their elected positions. The qualifications are:
  1. The candidate is a registered voter.
  2. The candidate is qualified to run for and hold the office being sought.
  3. The candidate has not qualified for any other office in the state that runs for the same term as the office sought.
  4. The candidate has resigned from any other public office whose term would run at the same time as the office being sought.
  5. The assessment fee has been paid.
  6. If running with a political party, the candidate has not been a registered member of any other political party for 365 days before the beginning of the qualifying period.
Obviously you do not need a Political Science degree from Harvard to run and none of the City Council has alleged or submitted that they possess such a degree. They are Citizens just like the rest of us who want to make a difference in their Communities and have chosen to put themselves in the line of fire and make tough decisions (that aren't always popular) to move this City forward and have been thwarted at every turn by a few folks who have held this City hostage for eons and have always had a council that would go along with their every desire. Things are a "changin" and its not working for them as it always has in the past and they don't like it!!

The group has called into question the Council's competence and are asking for a recall election.

Fact is, Florida is one of 12 states that requires specific reason for a recall and there are 7 allowable grounds. They are:
1.) malfeasance
2.) misfeasance
3.) neglect of duty
4.) drunkenness
5.) incompetence
6.) permanent inability to perform official duties
7.) conviction of a felony involving moral turpitude.

Just because the Council refuses to do the bidding of a "few" does NOT make them guilty of any of those things. On the other side of the coin, Danny Lucas was assuredly guilty of transgressions, especially misfeasance (the wrongful exercise of lawful authority) malfeasance (wrongdoing, especially by a public official) and incompetence (inability to do something successfully) and those issues have previously been listed in this thread. No one wants to talk about those things though because its always easier to kill the messenger than it is to address the issues. Mr. Lucas was NOT part of the Grand Jury investigation but had he been there may well have been a whole different outcome to the report that they "found no criminal wrongdoing". The Grand Jury was NOT charged with looking for criminal wrongdoing.

That group has tossed about words like "corruption" (dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery) and ironically Danny Lucas was fired because he allowed himself to be led down a path where he found himself doing "favors" for a select few (again those issues have been pointed out at the top of this thread) and he paid a heavy price for ignoring the ordinances/laws of the City and the laws of the State of Florida!!

In discussing a recall election that group has assured the 75 some odd people (excluding themselves) who attended the meeting at ARC they do in fact have the money to force a recall.That is questionable at best!! I believe Diane Pickett actually has the money to force a recall but I also think/believe (my opinion) that her mouth has written a check her A$$ can not pay for. There is simply not enough time remaining before the elections (111 days according to that group) to get this on the ballot to force a recall. Talk is cheap, in fact its FREE!

Speaking of the meeting at the ARC building... its also my opinion (and that of several others) that ARC committed political suicide by holding that meeting in that building. The ARC receives TAXPAYER DOLLARS from the County (City residents pay county taxes as well) and it is a conflict of interest for them to have held that meeting there. Don't bite the hand who feeds you ARC because just as the County gives the money, they can take it away!!!! The County does NOT want to become embroiled in City politics and well they shouldn't!! In the video link posted below the ARC admits they used the opportunity to have that meeting there as a fundraiser raising over $350.00 dollars.


I have been told (yes, you may call that a rumor) that Erin Glenn with the Mainstreet project was asked to and has resigned her position with the Mainstreet Project. I'm told the Director (Jay Evans) recognized the political fallout of one of his board members associating with a MOB who is calling for the resignations of all Council members who voted to fire Danny Lucas or face a recall election, was not the thing to do and seriously jeopardized the projects efforts to obtain anymore funding from the City. Well duh...I'm glad someone saw the folly in that.

The group talked about the $221 thousand dollars the City lost in sales tax revenues because the Mayor failed to get letters he received from the Sate to council nine (9) times. When someone in the audience pointed out the public records absolutely positively identified the culprit the comment was brushed off with, we'll look into that.

The discussion from that group about the BP money that's unaccounted for is a misnomer. The money should have been placed in a special account, for future use which one of the supporters of that group actually suggested when he was a Council member. That didn't happen because the finance department manager wasn't doing his job. The money was simply dumped into the general account and spent and no one bothered to tell the Council the money was gone.

The problem really occurred at the State level because the State did not implement safeguards to track how that money was spent. The first BP monies issued were a joke! Fraud, waste and abuse was rampant! The State Atty. Bill Eddins actually looked into whether or not the money had been misspent (I agree that it should not have gone into the general fund) and according to the Grand Jury Report there was no wrongdoing on the part of the City Council!!

In ending this post Mr. Douglass, let me assure you that I agree with many of the issues the Citizens of Defuniak Springs have raised (including that MOB's issues) but where we diverge is in the delivery! Making spectacles of yourselves with brooms and dust pans is NOT my idea of healthy discourse nor is the venom and vitriol that has been spewed at our elected officials for months (by a select few including members of that MOB) who simply can not push the Council into doing their bidding. As I said before and will say again, the stranglehold that some folks have had over this City for eons is coming to a close. If the object of their political involvement is to make a laughing stock out of the City of Defuniak then their protestations about how much they "love their City" while making a mockery of it, just goes to show whose really trying destroy it. You have helped in that regard with your quack cartoons, in my opinion. ;);)

Let me also thank you Mr. Douglass for enabling me to get the thread you created back on track and off of me. You don't have to agree with me and you have made it abundantly clear that you don't. I'm ok with that too but you have NO RIGHT to accuse me of lying, spreading rumors/innuendos or half truths (you are liable for what you say also) when my comments are generally pulled from PUBLIC RECORDS with documentation, from actually attending public meetings and witnessing first hand what happens in those meetings. as well as my understanding of what transpired at them. When was the last time you attended a Council meeting Mr. Douglass? I don't recall ever seeing you at one. Have we met? If not, introduce yourself at the next council meeting. :D:D

 

Kaydence

Beach Fanatic
Jan 19, 2017
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P. S. Mr Douglass,

There are a couple things I forgot to mention in regard to things that group has posted or said publicly.

Geneva Lee, the tiny black woman who spoke in the video regarding voting is homesteaded in Walton County and does not vote in City Elections. Admittedly she owns allot property in the City and assuredly has an interest and a voice in City Council meetings. Ms. Lee has always been recognized at Council meetings and been allowed to speak when she has chosen to do so. I absolutely agree with her that people need to not only register but also actually VOTE in City elections! Historically, the City elections have always been poorly attended either because VOTERS are disenfranchised, don't believe city elections are important or don't believe their vote would change the Status quo. It's that mindset that needs to change and I just don't honesty think that brooms, dust pans or prayer is going to do the trick. Trying to engage them by screaming "corruption, incompetence, unqualified, malfeasance, misfeasance, neglect of duties or moral turpitude certainly wouldn't endear me to turn out and vote either, especially if its never been proven that the City Council is guilty of anything. On the other hand, since I know Bob Campbell is directly responsible for a lot of the mess created at Council meetings I would show up to VOTE HIM OUT!

I also think its highly unfair for ANYONE (property owners or not) to sign a petition for recall in a City were they are not even eligible to vote. In the County yes and I'd be the first to jump on that bandwagon. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong (no doubt) but if I understand the process correctly the signatures must be from City residents...which leaves out a substantial number of that group.

It's also ironic to note that Bob Campbell thinks its perfectly acceptable to meet outside the Sunshine to discuss City issues with other (at the time) Council members and the finance director (Joe Brown) and in the 2015 elections there was actually a question on the ballot to have the Mayor’s voting taken away so he could talk freely outside of meetings which was turned down by the voters. The mayor only votes in the case of a tie and in the past 15 years that has happened only one or two times. Because of the very slight possibility he could be called to vote, he can NOT discuss city business with the Council outside of a meeting. The voters did not want the change and said so 603 over 439. That didn't stop the Mayor though, he does just exactly as he pleases as evidenced by the photo below.

It should also be noted that the Grand Jury report which, that group is notoriously famous for waving around would also prevent a recall because the Council was NOT found guilty of any wrongdoing and there isn't a Judge in this County who would sign off on a recall petition given that GJ Report.

However, if the State Atty. wants to launch another investigation on actual wrong doing by the Mayor and instructs the GJ to look at wrongdoing by public officials, I think there are SUBSTANTIAL witnesses who could and would testify about his meetings out of the Sunshine, his gross negligence, misfeasance and malfeasance while in office. That isn't going to happen though and we all know it, just as we knew the outcome of the GJ report. When you're not looking for something chances are you ain't gong to find it!!

The 3 Blind Mice.

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CartoonMark

Beach Lover
Apr 11, 2012
106
47
When or if you can prove I lied about any thing please do so. My enemies (as you call them) have done quite the hachet job on themselves by calling employers of a council member and spreading the BS all by themselves.

Your cartoon tells me your agenda. You have never spoken to me, so if you believe something someone told you I've said then that's on them and you for believing it. Try asking me what I said rather than the crap you choose to believe.

My posts are the record of what I've said.

In the interim of you proving I've lied, I'm done with this and you.
So many words....especially from someone who is "done with this and you." It's a pity that I occupy so much space inside your head now.
 

Kaydence

Beach Fanatic
Jan 19, 2017
1,415
1,124
Florida
Don't flatter yourself and whatever you don't speak to the content of the post. Keep making this about me.

I expected more from an adult. Shoulda known better.

You never did prove I lied either.
:rotfl::rotfl::D
 
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Kaydence

Beach Fanatic
Jan 19, 2017
1,415
1,124
Florida
ROFLMAO! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Who is occupying space in whose head?

My very own cartoon...only thing wrong is you are lying. I don't drink coffee, energy drinks or alcohol.

Anonymously? You know who I am and so does everyone else!

BTW...you are the bird!
 
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