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scooterbug44

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May 8, 2007
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I like to rail on tourists for their cluelessness, but I must admit I never heard of rip tides and what to do if caught in one until I had lived here for a couple years.

No excuse for not knowing about the flag system as it's EVERYWHERE, but rip tides are really not common knowledge to many visitors IMO.
 

Paula

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Jan 25, 2005
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I like to rail on tourists for their cluelessness, but I must admit I never heard of rip tides and what to do if caught in one until I had lived here for a couple years.

No excuse for not knowing about the flag system as it's EVERYWHERE, but rip tides are really not common knowledge to many visitors IMO.

I agree that there's no reason a tourist would know about rip tides and how to get out of one (although I think the information may be on the signs at the public beach accesses, but there are no signs at private beach accesses).

I wonder about how safe beaches are that don't have any warnings or flags or other ways of notifying beach-goers of water safety. I go to Sanibel Island every year, and I've never seen a flag or other safety system that's visible along the beaches.
 

scooterbug44

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May 8, 2007
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No, as part of my ongoing "get your dumb arse out of the water on red flag days" campaign I have made a thorough study of signage.

Typical signage is:
Flag system - big sign, 2 languages
Sea oats
Turtles w/ number to call

And at the bottom, a big blue w/ beach rules and location of access/number.
 

UofL

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Jan 21, 2005
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I don't think the double red flag signal was used until the mid 2000s. I remember a woman from Indiana, about 20 min. from here, drowned at Grayton, the week before our visit. Until then, I got the feeling that those in charge didn't want to publicize the dangers.
Since visiting this board and our traveling regularly down there, we are aware of the dangers, but considering the percentage of Americans who watch Jerry Springer type television and vote for 'fill in the blank', I doubt if they are aware of the dangers when they head south for a beach vacation.
Perhaps digital signs, stating the number of deaths so far this year due to drownings, would be helpful. Those small portable signs that restaurants and stores use. We have traffic signs here in Louisville that update the vehicular deaths on the digital signs when there isn't a traffic issue.
The crosses placed by a loved one, near the scene of a deadly accident, are chilling reminders of how deadly our roads can be. Heading to Cincy on I-71 there is a permanent sign reminding us of terrible bus crash in the 1980s.
I think a digital update would be helpful. It's not going to keep people from coming down here, I don't think.
(What's going to keep people from coming down here is the 'quality' of the water. Unfortunately, the algae, or whatever, is becoming a constant and seldom do we have warm water and clear water at the same time - at least a week's worth. We do enjoy 30A and walk, ride our bikes, sit near the water, dine out, but when it comes down to basics, getting in the water and staying there for hours at a time is the best part of the day, during a summer vacation visit.)
See you soon, Ellen
 

Bobby J

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Apr 18, 2005
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I have surfed all over the country and have never heard of an area that people drown in like this area. I really don't get it. Even areas with much bigger surf. Maybe the county should make a point to encourage people to only go in the water with flotation devices. Even on calm days. As a surfer, I love red flag days. Heck, I live for them but I am also attached to a flotation device when I go out. It seems like after hurricane Opal we started having more drownings. Not sure if Opal created a deeper gap between the shore and the first sandbar but I never remember hearing about drownings growing up here. Seems almost weekly now. Is it more people? A change in the Gulf? No clue? My own family rule is if you are going in, bring something that floats.
 
I think the problem is made worse by just how calm and unthreatening our beaches look most of the time, lulling our visitors into a false sense of security. Rip currents are a stealthy danger that take one by surprise... :sosad:
 

lenzoe

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I have surfed all over the country and have never heard of an area that people drown in like this area. I really don't get it. Even areas with much bigger surf. Maybe the county should make a point to encourage people to only go in the water with flotation devices. Even on calm days. As a surfer, I love red flag days. Heck, I live for them but I am also attached to a flotation device when I go out. It seems like after hurricane Opal we started having more drownings. Not sure if Opal created a deeper gap between the shore and the first sandbar but I never remember hearing about drownings growing up here. Seems almost weekly now. Is it more people? A change in the Gulf? No clue? My own family rule is if you are going in, bring something that floats.

Good point. As a surfer, do you have any idea why it's not customary to stock emergency flotation devices at beach accesses? Unless you are swimming near a lifeguard station, a distressed swimmer's odds of getting professional help seem small. It also seems that many of the people drowning are those people jumping in to help others (quite often, Dad's going in after their own kids.) I don't know the stories of these drownings, but maybe if they had floatation devices at least the would-be rescuers might be able to help themselves.
 

pattymcbob

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Dec 3, 2008
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Good point. As a surfer, do you have any idea why it's not customary to stock emergency flotation devices at beach accesses? Unless you are swimming near a lifeguard station, a distressed swimmer's odds of getting professional help seem small. It also seems that many of the people drowning are those people jumping in to help others (quite often, Dad's going in after their own kids.) I don't know the stories of these drownings, but maybe if they had floatation devices at least the would-be rescuers might be able to help themselves.

One of the drownings was near our walkover...very helpless feeling. I called SWFD to ask what size life ring I should attach to my walkover and was convinced not to do so. To sum it up, the safety director for the beaches said that if I could assure that someone would throw in the ring & not follow it in and try to rescue, then fine, but many of the drownings are from rescuers who get into trouble, doubling the tragedy. I see 3 keys here: educating as to what to do when caught in a rip current, using a flotation device (I'm a good swimmer but would have had one last week when the drowning occured), and having more lifeguards. The drowning was near Camp Creek Lake & the closest lifeguard came from Inlet Beach.
 

lenzoe

Beach Fanatic
One of the drownings was near our walkover...very helpless feeling. I called SWFD to ask what size life ring I should attach to my walkover and was convinced not to do so. To sum it up, the safety director for the beaches said that if I could assure that someone would throw in the ring & not follow it in and try to rescue, then fine, but many of the drownings are from rescuers who get into trouble, doubling the tragedy. I see 3 keys here: educating as to what to do when caught in a rip current, using a flotation device (I'm a good swimmer but would have had one last week when the drowning occured), and having more lifeguards. The drowning was near Camp Creek Lake & the closest lifeguard came from Inlet Beach.

I don't quite understand that reasoning -- ensuring they won't go in with the ring. Aren't many of the drownings from rescuers going in without a floatation device anyway? How will giving them a ring hurt them anymore?
 
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