Where are my cheez-its?
...LL, I bet mr. K would eat foie gras on those cheez-its. Me, I wouldn't touch the stuff. 
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...LL, I bet mr. K would eat foie gras on those cheez-its. Me, I wouldn't touch the stuff. 
i haven't served foie gras in some time so i can't produce the source off the top of my head right now - but there is in fact a free range unconfined foie gras industry. the ducks DO come running for feeding time and love the grain tube experience. i'm not saying that it's cool to fatten an animal until they can't walk but the suffering of the ducks in many cases is over exaggerated.
chicago has in fact repealed the ban.
d'artagnan is the easiest place for a non restaurant person to order some "a" grade - don't bother with the "b" or "c" grade - what's the point?
at jambone we only use unconfined, humanely treated animals and the pork industry is among the worst violators of animal husbandry ethics. the poor sows are chained inside a pen that they can neither move an inch forward or side to side for most of their lives. they are mated and give birth without ever even turning around and can barely even rest lying down. pigs are an amazingly social creature, very intelligent and modern medicine is even having some success with pig/human organ transplants. please don't support these industries whether it be pigs or chickens or any other of earth's beautiful creatures.
i make no difference between chopping broccoli out of the ground or slaughtering a baby lamb. it's the love and respect and honor that we should give to mother earth and its bounty be it plants or animals. stop supporting super mega agri-biz that is poisoning our food with chemicals and raping the soil and contaminating the water with unsustainable farming practices.
don't eat the foie gras from the ducks that are stapled down. there are alternatives that can still satisfy our gastronomic fancies. just pay attention, research, care and be proactive about your contribution to our stewardship of our planet.
and eat some foie gras every now and then!
scott alderson
chicago has in fact repealed the ban.
d'artagnan is the easiest place for a non restaurant person to order some "a" grade - don't bother with the "b" or "c" grade - what's the point?
at jambone we only use unconfined, humanely treated animals and the pork industry is among the worst violators of animal husbandry ethics. the poor sows are chained inside a pen that they can neither move an inch forward or side to side for most of their lives. they are mated and give birth without ever even turning around and can barely even rest lying down. pigs are an amazingly social creature, very intelligent and modern medicine is even having some success with pig/human organ transplants. please don't support these industries whether it be pigs or chickens or any other of earth's beautiful creatures.
i make no difference between chopping broccoli out of the ground or slaughtering a baby lamb. it's the love and respect and honor that we should give to mother earth and its bounty be it plants or animals. stop supporting super mega agri-biz that is poisoning our food with chemicals and raping the soil and contaminating the water with unsustainable farming practices.
don't eat the foie gras from the ducks that are stapled down. there are alternatives that can still satisfy our gastronomic fancies. just pay attention, research, care and be proactive about your contribution to our stewardship of our planet.
and eat some foie gras every now and then!
scott alderson
If only the 2 I cook for in my house were this easy to please. Sure would make my life a lot easier! (Great post, btw, JamBone.)
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robertdavies, to each his own. I have vegetarian and vegan friends, and I am mostly a carnivore, with veggie tendencies only on occasion. We each have to make our own choice of what to eat. Great points about the intelligence, and inhumane (in some cases), treatment of pigs. If it were all based on ideals, I would be a vegetarian, but my belly-cravings direct me otherwise. Jambone makes a great point about whether it is broccoli or lamb, respect the life of that which we eat, and the environment in which it is raised. I couldn't agree more. What we put into our soil, we put into our own bodies. We are more connected to the Earth than we tend to believe. We allow the walls of our house to act as visual barricades to the Earth and it's bounty, but the connection is still there, regardless of our recognition. If eating foie gras is what tickles your fancy, eat foie gras, change your fancy, or acknowledge that we don't always get what we desire.
I've learned quite a bit, growing up on a farm where we killed and cleaned, for our own consumption, chickens, deer, cows and pigs, and doves. It has been a long time since I've done that, but more recently, fishing and crabbing, has reminded me of the power we have and the restraint which we can use, to protect valuable life of all living things. I love the idea of fishing, just to fish. It is as much or more about being in nature and meditating as it is catching fish, and now I often go fishing without a pole, line and bait. Unless I want to eat a fish or crab, I don't mess with the act of fishing. Instead, I just go with the state of mind of fishing.
I've learned quite a bit, growing up on a farm where we killed and cleaned, for our own consumption, chickens, deer, cows and pigs, and doves. It has been a long time since I've done that, but more recently, fishing and crabbing, has reminded me of the power we have and the restraint which we can use, to protect valuable life of all living things. I love the idea of fishing, just to fish. It is as much or more about being in nature and meditating as it is catching fish, and now I often go fishing without a pole, line and bait. Unless I want to eat a fish or crab, I don't mess with the act of fishing. Instead, I just go with the state of mind of fishing.
SJ, great points all. JamBone makes great points too, and I have researched the different treatment at the different places where it is produced on our continent, primarily Hudson Valley NY, and Charlevoix region of Quebec. Thanks for acknowledging the point on the pigs - we eat free range chicken, and buy a lot of our meat products from Trader Joe's and Harrys Farmers Market (Whole Foods) which in Atlanta is about as close as you can get to being a carnivore with a conscious. I get all that. I just don't get how people are so protective of the animals with the smallest of brains, like Whole Foods doesn't supply lobsters anymore.... and the broad brushed sensitivity Richard Daly had for a while on Foie Gras, during their experiment on a ban.
I guess Ted Nugent won't think so highly of us, but i couldn't give a rats ass... I too will loudly proclaim that I fish sometimes without throwing a line in the water.
I'm not so sure that the size of the brain is that which matters. Humans have rather large brains, but reportedly use only approx. 10% of it. Other animals may have smaller brains, but maybe they use a larger portion of it, and when comparing it to relative body size, maybe they use more brains than we humans. I certainly understand your question regarding brain size. In the end, I think it should all go back to respecting the life of that which we consume, regardless if it has a brain. Respecting that life doesn't mean not killing it for your own consumption. It simply means treating it with respect and honor, and acknowledging the fact that you are taking the life to fuel your own. As Jambone noted, even Broccoli is a living thing, until we kill it.
respect for all living things... YES agreed, its difficult to mount a good polemic retort to that proposition to be sure. Respect for Broccoli? Sure, and even more respect that George Herbert Bush gave to the lovely vege......
I agree with all the platitudes... my only point is that I have more concern on a relative basis for humans, dogs, and pigs, than ducks and geese or broccoli.
I don't think that's a tough call, but I don't think everyone needs to agree with me.
This is the dining forum...not the political forum! 
Foie Gras is a delicacy...it is a fact of life that these kinds of foods will always be consumed.
Now...to the subject at hand...Chan's Wine World carries Duck Foie Gras.
Foie Gras is a delicacy...it is a fact of life that these kinds of foods will always be consumed.
Now...to the subject at hand...Chan's Wine World carries Duck Foie Gras.
