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Smiling JOe

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Nov 18, 2004
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Maybe this NewsWeek article shed some light on the reasons why....



"The 65 mpg Ford the U.S. Can't Have"

Ford's Fiesta ECOnetic gets an astonishing 65 mpg, but the carmaker can't afford to sell it in the U.S.

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The ECOnetic will go on sale in Europe in November

by David Kiley


...Automakers such as Volkswagen (VLKAY) and Mercedes-Benz (DAI) have predicted for years that a technology called "clean diesel" would overcome many Americans' antipathy to a fuel still often thought of as the smelly stuff that powers tractor trailers. Diesel vehicles now hitting the market with pollution-fighting technology are as clean or cleaner than gasoline and at least 30% more fuel-efficient.


Yet while half of all cars sold in Europe last year ran on diesel, the U.S. market remains relatively unfriendly to the fuel. Taxes aimed at commercial trucks mean diesel costs anywhere from 40 cents to $1 more per gallon than gasoline. Add to this the success of the Toyota Prius, and you can see why only 3% of cars in the U.S. use diesel. "Americans see hybrids as the darling," says Global Insight auto analyst Philip Gott, "and diesel as old-tech."


None of this is stopping European and Japanese automakers, which are betting they can jump-start the U.S. market with new diesel models. Mercedes-Benz by next year will have three cars it markets as "BlueTec." Even Nissan (NSANY) and Honda, which long opposed building diesel cars in Europe, plan to introduce them in the U.S. in 2010. But Ford, whose Fiesta ECOnetic compares favorably with European diesels, can't make a business case for bringing the car to the U.S.
TOO PRICEY TO IMPORT

First of all, the engines are built in Britain, so labor costs are high. Plus the pound remains stronger than the greenback. At prevailing exchange rates, the Fiesta ECOnetic would sell for about $25,700 in the U.S. By contrast, the Prius typically goes for about $24,000. A $1,300 tax deduction available to buyers of new diesel cars could bring the price of the Fiesta to around $24,400. But Ford doesn't believe it could charge enough to make money on an imported ECOnetic.


Ford plans to make a gas-powered version of the Fiesta in Mexico for the U.S. So why not manufacture diesel engines there, too? Building a plant would cost at least $350 million at a time when Ford has been burning through more than $1 billion a month in cash reserves. Besides, the automaker would have to produce at least 350,000 engines a year to make such a venture profitable. "We just don't think North and South America would buy that many diesel cars," says Fields.



The question, of course, is whether the U.S. ever will embrace diesel fuel and allow automakers to achieve sufficient scale to make money on such vehicles. California certified VW and Mercedes diesel cars earlier this year, after a four-year ban. James N. Hall, of auto researcher 293 Analysts, says that bellwether state and the Northeast remain "hostile to diesel." But the risk to Ford is that the fuel takes off, and the carmaker finds itself playing catch-up—despite having a serious diesel contender in its arsenal.
 

GoodWitch58

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Oct 10, 2005
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I'm not buying a new car, I'm HyperMiling .

I've been doing this all summer. In around town driving, my (not so) little 'ole 1998 Expedition normally gives me 13.5 MPG. By doing a lot of what the hypermiling stories talk about (controlled accelleration, engine off at long lights and coasting in to stops),

I now routinely get 16.5 to 17 MPG and no payment for a new car. That's a pretty good increase and after a few weeks, it becomes a new automatic way to drive. Driving 60MPH on the interstate (something I almost never did) yields 21-22 MPG.

Did you also inflate your tires?:D
 

Sheila

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I'm not buying a new car, I'm HyperMiling .

I've been doing this all summer. In around town driving, my (not so) little 'ole 1998 Expedition normally gives me 13.5 MPG. By doing a lot of what the hypermiling stories talk about (controlled accelleration, engine off at long lights and coasting in to stops),

I now routinely get 16.5 to 17 MPG and no payment for a new car. That's a pretty good increase and after a few weeks, it becomes a new automatic way to drive. Driving 60MPH on the interstate (something I almost never did) yields 21-22 MPG.

It also has cut down on our drug bills as I no longer have to travel partially sedated and he is not constantly having to have finger indentations removed form his dash, and lastly he hasn't had to replace the "brakes" on the passenger side nearly as much. It's a win-win proposition!
 

Mango

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Apr 7, 2006
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Forget what I said. I saw the Flex commercial last night and thought I heard 70 mpg when it was 17 mpg. I need a hearing aide. :roll:
 

Miss Kitty

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Jun 10, 2005
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Forget what I said. I saw the Flex commercial last night and thought I heard 70 mpg when it was 17 mpg. I need a hearing aide. :roll:

:rotfl:...get in line behind me...I'm the one with the walker. Hypermiling, indeed!
 

Danny Burns

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American car companies have huge inventories of gas guzzlers because Americans have historically loved driving them. I think it's the "my car's bigger than your car" mentality. Our cars reflect our egos.

Hypermiling...please! I've done the same thing for 15 years in my little Acura and still get 31-33 miles per gallon.

A large guzzler is still a guzzler! Ford won't market it's new car in America until all of its large vehicles are gone from inventory and Americans stop wanting them...which slowly seems to be happening.
 
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