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futurebeachbum

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I came across this book today
The Limits of Power: The End of American Exceptionalism
by Andrew Bacevich​
and the writeup intrigues me. The author is a retired military man.

Many of the points in the excerpt resonate with me and I am thinking of getting a copy from Audible (that way I can listen to it as I walk or drive.)

Here's part of the summary from Amazon:

Bacevich describes an America beset by three crises: a crisis of profligacy, a crisis in politics and a crisis in the military. The profligacy is easily described: What was, even in the author's youth several decades ago, a thrifty society whose exports far outdistanced its imports has become a nation of debtors by every measure. Consumption has become the great American preoccupation, and consumption of imported oil the great chink in our national armor. When on Sept. 11, 2001, the United States suffered the most serious attack on its soil since 1812, our government responded by cutting taxes and urging citizens onward to more consumption. Bacevich quotes President Bush: "I encourage you all to go shopping more."

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Bacevich's political crisis involves more than just George W. Bush's failed presidency, though "his policies have done untold damage." Bacevich argues that the government the Founders envisaged no longer exists, replaced by an imperial presidency and a passive, incompetent Congress. "No one today seriously believes that the actions of the legislative branch are informed by a collective determination to promote the common good," he writes. "The chief . . . function of Congress is to ensure the reelection of its members."

In Bacevich's view, the modern American government is dominated by an "ideology of national security" that perverts the Constitution and common sense. It is based on presumptions about the universal appeal of democracy and America's role as democracy's great defender and promoter that just aren't true. And we ignore the ideology whenever it suits the government of the day, by supporting anti-democratic tyrants in important countries like Pakistan and Egypt, for example. The ideology "imposes no specific obligations" nor "mandates action in support of the ideals it celebrates," but can be used by an American president "to legitimate the exercise of American power."

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The heart of the matter, Bacevich argues, is that war can never be considered a useful political tool, because wars invariably produce unintended consequences: "War's essential nature is fixed, permanent, intractable, and irrepressible. War's constant companions are uncertainty and risk." New inventions cannot alter these facts, Bacevich writes. "Any notion that innovative techniques and new technologies will subject war to definitive human direction is simply whimsical," he writes, quoting Churchill approvingly: "The statesman who yields to war fever is no longer the master of policy, but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events."




Has anyone read this?

if so, I'd really be interested in comments before I spend the coin to get it.
 

GoodWitch58

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I saw the author on both Bill Moyers and Charlie Rose. The interfview was interesting; he is well spoken, extremely intelligent, in addition to being a retired military officer, he is currently on faculty of (I believe it was ) Boston College.
His son, an Army Lt, was recently killed in Iraq.

His point of view is worth exploring IMO. I plan to read the book .
 

Camellia

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His interview with BIll Moyer's is available on line (google Bill Moyer's journal) Moyer said that he underlined every 3rd line in the book. NYtimes had a lukewarm review of the book. The book seems interesting but listening to him talk may be as satisfying as reading the book.
 

Bob

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i would not buy the book based on the summary
his summary is a rehash of recent history with little original insight, for example the post ww2 generation was thrifty due to the depression, and we exported more because of the ww2 industrial buildup and cold war....wow! Also, the opec history since the early seventies is fairly well evident, as is the bush doctrine and the expansion of credit...where's some original theory here?
 

Camellia

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Well, it is both free and harmless to listen to the radio show interviews with him on both Moyer's journal and NPR. Beats watching reruns of survivor.
 

futurebeachbum

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his summary is a rehash of recent history with little original insight, for example the post ww2 generation was thrifty due to the depression, and we exported more because of the ww2 industrial buildup and cold war....wow! Also, the opec history since the early seventies is fairly well evident, as is the bush doctrine and the expansion of credit...where's some original theory here?

Not to make light of such a pedestrian response, but it seems to me that most solution oriented books start out by stating the obvious. That's often called defining the problem.

The real question is do they offer valuable advice or insights on how to correct the problem.

I guess I'll have to buy it to find out if it does.
 

Bob

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Not to make light of such a pedestrian response, but it seems to me that most solution oriented books start out by stating the obvious. That's often called defining the problem.

The real question is do they offer valuable advice or insights on how to correct the problem.

I guess I'll have to buy it to find out if it does.
wait for it to be 1.00 a copy after christmas at pedestrian.com.
 
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