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Do you think Marijuana should be legalized?

  • Yes

    Votes: 61 82.4%
  • No

    Votes: 13 17.6%

  • Total voters
    74

Lake View Too

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Nov 16, 2008
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Good question AA.
Are there other plants that are illegal to grow in this great country of ours?:dunno:
Just wondering why they picked that one, when I'll bet lots of plants have the same effect...we just haven't tried them all.:D

whatdayamean mean we haven't tried them all... I'm rollin' up some palmetto right now... ya can't be too sure...:rotfl:
 

ASH

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Feb 4, 2008
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Roosevelt, MN
Alright, someone had to stand up and so I will do it.

I will preface that I have smoked pot when I was a teenager. I am not a smoker and am very glad that I am not when I see the results of years of it in family members.

My position is that I do not think we should be legalizing any more chemicals with known histories of causing disease and death. I don't buy the whole logic of it's my body and I will make this decision myself, because when someone finally gets into 6 figures of medical bills with chemo treatment and surgery, it suddenly becomes a burden of everyone and nobody gives me a choice at this point.

Reading material:
Marijuana smoke and cigarette smoke contain many of the same toxins, including one which has been identified as a key factor in the promotion of lung cancer. This toxin is found in the tar phase of both, and it should be noted that one joint has four times more tar than a cigarette, which means that the lungs are exposed four-fold to this toxin and others in the tar. It has been concretely established that smoking cigarettes promotes lung cancer (which causes more than 125,000 deaths in the US every year), chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (chronic bronchitis and emphysema) and increased incidence of respiratory tract infections. This implies, but does not establish, that smoking marijuana may lead to some of the same results as smoking cigarettes. It is notable that several reports indicate an unexpectedly large proportion ofmarijuana users among cases of lung cancer and cancers of the oral cavity,pharynx, and larynx. Thus, it appears that the use of marijuana as a medicine has the potential to further harm an already ill patient in the same way that taking up regular cigarette smoking would, particularly in light of the fact that those patients for whom marijuana is recommended are already poorly equipped to fight off these infections and diseases.
For more information, please see the Tashkin website mentioned at the end of the section on immune disorders. See also:
  • www.sarnia.com/GROUPS/ANTIDRUG/mrr/ 21.96.10.html, for information on the link between chemicals contained in marijuana and lung cancer.
  • http://www.marijuananews.com/latest_research_finds_that_heavy.htm, for an article concerning the link between marijuana and cancer, with commentary
 

sunspotbaby

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Mar 31, 2006
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With all due respect to those who argue about the health risks, listen to the drug commercials.

Cymbalta Side Effects: An Introduction
As with any medicine, there are possible side effects with Cymbalta? (duloxetine hydrochloride). However, not everyone who takes Cymbalta will experience side effects. In fact, most people tolerate the medication well. When Cymbalta side effects do occur, in most cases they are minor and either require no treatment or can be easily treated by you or your healthcare provider.

(This article covers many, but not all, of the possible side effects with Cymbalta. Your healthcare provider can discuss a more complete list of Cymbalta side effects with you.)

Common Side Effects of Cymbalta
Cymbalta has been studied thoroughly in clinical trials in which the side effects of a group of people taking the drug are documented and compared to another group not taking the medicine.
As a result, it is possible to see what side effects occur, how often they appear, and how they compare to the group not taking the medicine.

In these studies, the most common side effects of Cymbalta included:


* Nausea -- occurring in up to 38 percent of people
* Drowsiness -- in up to 21 percent
* Headaches -- in up to 20 percent
* Dry mouth -- in up to 18 percent (see Cymbalta and Dry Mouth)
* Dizziness -- in up to 17 percent
* Insomnia -- in up to 16 percent (see Cymbalta and Insomnia)
* Constipation -- in up to 15 percent
* Fatigue -- in up to 15 percent
* Diarrhea -- in up to 13 percent
* Loss of appetite -- in up to 11 percent
* Sore throat or runny nose -- in up to 9 percent
* Weakness -- in up to 8 percent
* Sweating -- in up to 8 percent
* Vomiting -- in up to 8 percent
* A decreased sex drive (libido) -- in up to 7 percent (see Sexual Side Effects of Cymbalta)
* Upper respiratory tract infection (such as the common cold) -- in up to 7 percent
* Coughing -- in up to 6 percent.


Other common Cymbalta side effects (occurring in 2 to 5 percent of people) included:


* Shakiness (tremors)
* Frequent urination
* Muscle pain
* Sexual side effects, including ejaculation problems, a decreased sex drive (libido), erectile dysfunction (ED or impotence), and orgasm problems (see Sexual Side Effects of Cymbalta)
* Blurred vision
* Anxiety or agitation
* Weight loss (see Cymbalta and Weight Loss) or weight gain (see Cymbalta and Weight Gain)
* Hot flashes
* Yawning
* Abdominal pain (or stomach pain)
* Vertigo (a spinning sensation)
* Gas
* Chills
* Indigestion or heartburn
*
Seasonal allergies
*
Muscle spasms
*
Taste changes
*
Abnormal dreams
*
Cough.


(Cymbalta Side Effects Continued: Page 2)

Page 2:eek: I'll spare you.


Do you think any of these side effects might bad for your health? Bottom line...drug companies WANT you to be ill. If you are not ill, they want you to think you're Ill so their docs can fill you up crap like this. Instead, those docs could just tell you "have some marijuana brownies and call me in the morning" :roll:

Thanks pharms, I think I'll avoid your pills...they're depressing. :wave:
 

ASH

Beach Fanatic
Feb 4, 2008
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Roosevelt, MN
What's the drug that states one of the side effects as an increased likelyhood to gamble? I am serious, it's out there. :funn:

Or like Jeff Foxworthy says, "anal seepage". :eek:
 

Susan Horn

Beach Fanatic
Well, just to play devil's advocate. If we keep pot illegal because it's got stuff in it that's bad for you, then why don't we also outlaw BHA, BHT, nitrates, nitrites, pesticides, petrochemical fertilizers, chlorine based products, all chemicals known or suspected to cause cancer, neurological damage, birth defects or other health problems, bacon, artificial sweeteners. Lots of art supplies too - oil paints, polymer clay (Fimo). Fiberglass insulation. Treated wood products. Formaldehyde. VOCs. Alcohol, psychoactive pharmaceuticals. Polyester, vinyl, petrochemical plastics, Teflon for heaven's sakes, and aluminum cookware as well as aluminum foil. Motorcycles. Diving boards and swimming pools, skateboards, snowboards, skis, .....

I could go on, but gee whiz, all kinds of things and activities have various benefits and risks that depend on chance as well as frequency and care with which they are used and undertaken. And medical bills to handle the bad results when things are misused, or accidents happen, can be high whether the causative factor was legal or illegal.

Our medical care delivery system is in worse shape than NOLA's levees pre Katrina, but I don't think keeping pot illegal is gonna work as a finger in the dike. Why not legalize it and tax it like tobacco and alcohol? The revenues could go into the health care fund for pot smokers, so they become self insured. Think of all the law enforcement funds that would be freed up, the reduction in prison overcrowding, the legal commerce etc.

Anybody read Michael Pollan's The Botany of Desire? Four sections, one on marijuana. Very interesting insight into how a generation or two of horticultural expertise has gone underground in cultivation of pot. What if all that suddenly was allowed to be legal in the light of day -- what benefits might be made available to the wider world around intensive agriculture?
 

Smiling JOe

SoWal Expert
Nov 18, 2004
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ASH, you make a good point about the health care costs from issues with smoking. HOWEVER, no one said that marijuana had to be pushed through a product that people smoked. There are many ways to ingest THC from pot -- smoking it requires the least amount of work and planning, but is the most detrimental way regarding health. I've never heard one case of anyone having health problems associated with THC, other than addiction (which is no small problem). It is the smoking which gets them, and yes, smoking anything will cause lung problems.
 

ASH

Beach Fanatic
Feb 4, 2008
2,153
443
Roosevelt, MN
I don't care if y'all wanta get high. I do that with alcohol. I would agree with all of this discussion by merely removing the health risks of getting it.
 

avalon

Beach Fanatic
Apr 21, 2008
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Seagrove
Add some spice

whatdayamean mean we haven't tried them all... I'm rollin' up some palmetto right now... ya can't be too sure...:rotfl:
Go to your spice cabinet and dig out that nutmeg leftover from the eggnog at Christmas. A couple of tablespoons will do the trick.:rotfl:
 
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